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Chris Luva Luva wrote:You have evidence that they were open for this exact trade?

The NFL's trade deadline arrives next Tuesday, and the Washington Post reports that the Washington Redskins are open to trading tight end Fred Davis.

Although it's a considerable long-shot, the other wrinkle to consider here is safety Jairus Byrd. Although they're not actively shopping him, the Bills have said they'll listen to any offers on Byrd. The Redskins need a safety.

While the Redskins would clearly need to give up more than Davis (i.e. a mid-round draft pick or higher) to get Byrd, it would be a swap of two players who have expiring contracts, creating an impetus for both sides to make a deal.

riggofan wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:You have evidence that they were open for this exact trade?

Nah, just the usual speculation:
http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bills/p ... avis-trade

The NFL's trade deadline arrives next Tuesday, and the Washington Post reports that the Washington Redskins are open to trading tight end Fred Davis.

Although it's a considerable long-shot, the other wrinkle to consider here is safety Jairus Byrd. Although they're not actively shopping him, the Bills have said they'll listen to any offers on Byrd. The Redskins need a safety.

While the Redskins would clearly need to give up more than Davis (i.e. a mid-round draft pick or higher) to get Byrd, it would be a swap of two players who have expiring contracts, creating an impetus for both sides to make a deal.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Yeah, that trade wasn't going to happen... Ever.

riggofan wrote:Is Brandon Meriweather pretty much gone?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

riggofan wrote:Is Brandon Meriweather pretty much gone?

Hell no. He's a SS who played out of position last year. You don't trade one liability in for another. If we attain Byrd, you move Brandon back to his natural position and work OT to get Phillips and Rambo on track. Worst case scenario, Rambo and Phillips become ST monsters.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

riggofan wrote:Is Brandon Meriweather pretty much gone?

Hell no. He's a SS who played out of position last year. You don't trade one liability in for another. If we attain Byrd, you move Brandon back to his natural position and work OT to get Phillips and Rambo on track. Worst case scenario, Rambo and Phillips become ST monsters.

Free safety Brandon Meriweather has been nothing short of disappointing with the Redskins after his tremendous tenure with the New England Patriots.

The former Miami Hurricane has been a distraction in the media by way of his fines and suspensions, a liability by his injury and an overall erratic performer.

With Meriweather likely out, Washington will need a new free safety. Enter: Jarius Byrd.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

riggofan wrote:Is Brandon Meriweather pretty much gone?

Hell no. He's a SS who played out of position last year.

Deadskins wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

riggofan wrote:Is Brandon Meriweather pretty much gone?

Hell no. He's a SS who played out of position last year.

Brandon Merriweather played FS after Sean Taylor was killed.

The Hogster wrote:Our main priority should be getting talent for this defense this year to compensate for the mediocrity known as Jim Haslett. I am in favor of targeting Jairus Byrd as a Free Safety. Keeping Merriweather as a Strong Safety...re-signing Orakpo and D Hall. I would also go after one of the corners available...Charles Tillman or Sam Shields would add depth to the secondary.

Kilmer72 wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Our main priority should be getting talent for this defense this year to compensate for the mediocrity known as Jim Haslett. I am in favor of targeting Jairus Byrd as a Free Safety. Keeping Merriweather as a Strong Safety...re-signing Orakpo and D Hall. I would also go after one of the corners available...Charles Tillman or Sam Shields would add depth to the secondary.

Main priority should be Oline but I agree defense as a whole needs the most help.

The Hogster wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Our main priority should be getting talent for this defense this year to compensate for the mediocrity known as Jim Haslett. I am in favor of targeting Jairus Byrd as a Free Safety. Keeping Merriweather as a Strong Safety...re-signing Orakpo and D Hall. I would also go after one of the corners available...Charles Tillman or Sam Shields would add depth to the secondary.

Main priority should be Oline but I agree defense as a whole needs the most help.

We definitely need O Line help as well, especially since Gruden runs more of a power scheme.

The Hogster wrote:Our main priority should be getting talent for this defense this year to compensate for the mediocrity known as Jim Haslett. I am in favor of targeting Jairus Byrd as a Free Safety. Keeping Merriweather as a Strong Safety...re-signing Orakpo and D Hall. I would also go after one of the corners available...Charles Tillman or Sam Shields would add depth to the secondary.

riggofan wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Our main priority should be getting talent for this defense this year to compensate for the mediocrity known as Jim Haslett. I am in favor of targeting Jairus Byrd as a Free Safety. Keeping Merriweather as a Strong Safety...re-signing Orakpo and D Hall. I would also go after one of the corners available...Charles Tillman or Sam Shields would add depth to the secondary.

Great post! And prioritizing the defense isn't really even debatable. Isn't it like seven of eleven starters from last season are hitting free agency?

I know we're all excited to be past the cap penalty and have some real money to spend in free agency, but we gotta be prepared for some lingering hangover from that mess. This still isn't going to be a "normal" year for us. The team had to do so many of these one year, low ball contracts on defense with the types of players who would be willing to take those deals. We have a lot of holes to fill as a result, and its going to take some time to recover.

Kilmer72 wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Our main priority should be getting talent for this defense this year to compensate for the mediocrity known as Jim Haslett. I am in favor of targeting Jairus Byrd as a Free Safety. Keeping Merriweather as a Strong Safety...re-signing Orakpo and D Hall. I would also go after one of the corners available...Charles Tillman or Sam Shields would add depth to the secondary.

Main priority should be Oline but I agree defense as a whole needs the most help.

markshark84 wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Our main priority should be getting talent for this defense this year to compensate for the mediocrity known as Jim Haslett. I am in favor of targeting Jairus Byrd as a Free Safety. Keeping Merriweather as a Strong Safety...re-signing Orakpo and D Hall. I would also go after one of the corners available...Charles Tillman or Sam Shields would add depth to the secondary.

Main priority should be Oline but I agree defense as a whole needs the most help.

I'm not sure how anyone could look at our 2nd-worst-in-the-league 29.9 ppg against and 6th-worst 5.7 yards-per-play stats and think anything offensive should be our "main priority". Especially when we are losing our defensive captain and leader Fletcher.

Yes, we need upgrades at RT and 1 OG spot, but we need significant upgrades on DEF including 2 DEs, 1 LB (or 2 if Rak leaves), 2 CBs (#2 and 3) and SS. That is at a minimum. An arguement can be made for FS as well. AND THESE ARE JUST STARTERS --- THIS DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE POTENTIAL INJURIES (which are a inevitable).

It would be great for RGIII to get more protection and they didn't do a good job last season, but the focus should be on our bottom 3 defense. After all, if RGIII is back to his 2012 self, OL will get help from him ---- and if he is more his 2013 self; well, we'll be looking for QBs in the 2015 draft........

SkinsJock wrote:Both the defense and the Oline need help - there's no prioritizing - they both need a lot of help

SkinsJock wrote:Both the defense and the Oline need help - there's no prioritizing - they both need a lot of help

RG3's 'style of play' has nothing to do with it - no QB can play in a WCO behind the offensive linemen we had last season

Jay Gruden is not running a ZBS style offense and these guys are not suitable for what he's going to want to run here

In an appearance on the Fox Sports show “Keepin’ it Real with Mike Hill,” the Redskins’ DeAngelo Hall was asked who the best cornerback in the league is. Is it a surprise that his answer was “DeAngelo Hall?”

“If you line up the top five receivers in the NFL and have one guy go out and cover ‘em, I put myself out there before anybody else,” said Hall. “Before Richard Sherman, before Revis, before Peterson, before anybody else. There’s a lot goes into a defensive play or a defensive scheme. But you’re asking me to go out there and just lock one guy up, ain’t nobody better than me.”

“In man-to-man coverage,” he continued, “‘ain’t nobody better than me.”

(Oh, and he also said the Redskins “probably should” change their name.)

While he’s willing to crown himself cornerback king, Hall admitted that there’s one area that Sherman excels at over himself — trash-talking.
“I’m probably not the best,” he said, when asked who the best trash-talker in the league is. “Sherman talks a lot. He might be one of the best trash talkers. He definitely talks a lot. I don’t know if it’s warranted or not, but he definitely talks a lot of trash.”

Why isn’t Sherman’s trash-talk warranted?

“I mean, ’cause he tried to talk trash against my team last year when we played them in the playoffs and it didn’t end too well,” said Hall.
He’s referring to the confrontation with Trent Williams, who hit Sherman after the Seahawks cornerback engaged in some postgame taunting. A normally reserved Darrel Young also said Sherman’s behavior in that game crossed a line.

When asked for his favorite opponent to trade verbal jabs with, Hall got nostalgic.

“Probably back in my heyday when me and Chad [Johnson] had that rivalry going, that was some of the best football games I ever been a part of,” Hall said, fondly. “Me and him talking trash about things that’s gonna happen, putting bets on the line. I got to shave off his gold Mohawk one year up in Cincinnati. That was probably the best trash-talking I’ve ever been a part of. Me and Ochocinco.”