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I agreed with the notion of bringing in KC as an attempt to salvage the season, but now we're beyond that point, and now I think the team just needs to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%, and fixing the rest of the issues with the team...I believe this season is not salvageable...
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grampi wrote:I agreed with the notion of bringing in KC as an attempt to salvage the season, but now we're beyond that point, and now I think the team just needs to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%, and fixing the rest of the issues with the team...I believe this season is not salvageable...



:shock: if we are able "to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%" and be able to fix "the rest of the issues with the team" - how can you say "this season is not salvageable"

what the hell do you expect of these players and coaches?

RG3 gets back to 100% ... AND ... the offense, defense and special teams start to play really well

thanks for clarifying :roll:
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riggofan wrote:Sounds like we may need to form our own support group soon.


Isn't that what we already kind of are?
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SkinsJock wrote:
grampi wrote:I agreed with the notion of bringing in KC as an attempt to salvage the season, but now we're beyond that point, and now I think the team just needs to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%, and fixing the rest of the issues with the team...I believe this season is not salvageable...



:shock: if we are able "to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%" and be able to fix "the rest of the issues with the team" - how can you say "this season is not salvageable"

what the hell do you expect of these players and coaches?

RG3 gets back to 100% ... AND ... the offense, defense and special teams start to play really well

thanks for clarifying :roll:


I say I don't think this season is salvageable because I don't think these issues can be fixed in the next week or two, which is what it would take to salvage this season...they might be fixable over the course of the rest of the season...
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grampi wrote:
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grampi wrote:I agreed with the notion of bringing in KC as an attempt to salvage the season, but now we're beyond that point, and now I think the team just needs to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%, and fixing the rest of the issues with the team...I believe this season is not salvageable...

:shock: if we are able "to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%" and be able to fix "the rest of the issues with the team" - how can you say "this season is not salvageable"

what the hell do you expect of these players and coaches?

RG3 gets back to 100% ... AND ... the offense, defense and special teams start to play really well

thanks for clarifying :roll:

I say I don't think this season is salvageable because I don't think these issues can be fixed in the next week or two, which is what it would take to salvage this season...they might be fixable over the course of the rest of the season...

The Redskins have "issues" - but they also are getting 'better' each week
you think they cannot salvage the season - why not? - the season has 10 games left - a lot can happen

why does the team need to make everything 'right' in the next 2 weeks?

why be so negative?

give it some time - we're obviously not going to win every game but I do think we'll continue to see improvement
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funsho2 wrote:Rg3 is not a good pocket passer .....time to go in a different direction


With the non-existent blocking today, Cousins would have died. RG3 wasn't accurate, but he sure as hell dodged a lot of bullets.


Dodged the 1st then got shot by the second cause he stayed ther and didnt tuck it and run...get the 1st down and SLIDE...still takin shots on the sidelines and in the pocket cause he wants to prove hes Warren Moon already.
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So funny how people crucify rgiii when we lose and praise the BACK up.. he had more pass yards then Romo put up, yet cousins would havewon because he scrambled for a 2 pt conversion once and beat the worst team in football the next week? After a crappy first half of errant throws and 2 picks?
Maybe if rgiii played special teams he could have stopped the return.man and single handidly won the game!
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SkinsJock wrote:
grampi wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:
grampi wrote:I agreed with the notion of bringing in KC as an attempt to salvage the season, but now we're beyond that point, and now I think the team just needs to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%, and fixing the rest of the issues with the team...I believe this season is not salvageable...

:shock: if we are able "to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%" and be able to fix "the rest of the issues with the team" - how can you say "this season is not salvageable"

what the hell do you expect of these players and coaches?

RG3 gets back to 100% ... AND ... the offense, defense and special teams start to play really well

thanks for clarifying :roll:

I say I don't think this season is salvageable because I don't think these issues can be fixed in the next week or two, which is what it would take to salvage this season...they might be fixable over the course of the rest of the season...

The Redskins have "issues" - but they also are getting 'better' each week
you think they cannot salvage the season - why not? - the season has 10 games left - a lot can happen

why does the team need to make everything 'right' in the next 2 weeks?

why be so negative?

give it some time - we're obviously not going to win every game but I do think we'll continue to see improvement


Because 1) the team is already way behind the the power curve at 1-4 and 2) the remaining schedule is tough and 3) while the team is improving, they're doing so very slowly and I don't think they're going to be good enough soon enough to salvage this season...anyone who still thinks the team has a shot this year just isn't being realistic...
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cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:So funny how people crucify rgiii when we lose and praise the BACK up.. he had more pass yards then Romo put up, yet cousins would havewon because he scrambled for a 2 pt conversion once and beat the worst team in football the next week? After a crappy first half of errant throws and 2 picks?
Maybe if rgiii played special teams he could have stopped the return.man and single handidly won the game!
Get real people!

No one has crucified Griffin. There's legitimate criticisms of his play, however. He looked lost in the 2nd half. His mobility did look better, but he still looked lost and almost Jason Campbell-esque during some plays.
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StorminMormon86 wrote:
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:So funny how people crucify rgiii when we lose and praise the BACK up.. he had more pass yards then Romo put up, yet cousins would havewon because he scrambled for a 2 pt conversion once and beat the worst team in football the next week? After a crappy first half of errant throws and 2 picks?
Maybe if rgiii played special teams he could have stopped the return.man and single handidly won the game!
Get real people!

No one has crucified Griffin. There's legitimate criticisms of his play, however. He looked lost in the 2nd half. His mobility did look better, but he still looked lost and almost Jason Campbell-esque during some plays.


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Didn't remind you of the deer in the headlights Campbell on some plays (especially the fumble)?
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StorminMormon86 wrote:Didn't remind you of the deer in the headlights Campbell on some plays (especially the fumble)?


Maybe in his career day (best day of his life).. its just a bogus remark...
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SkinsJock wrote:
grampi wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:
grampi wrote:I agreed with the notion of bringing in KC as an attempt to salvage the season, but now we're beyond that point, and now I think the team just needs to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%, and fixing the rest of the issues with the team...I believe this season is not salvageable...

:shock: if we are able "to focus on getting RG3 better and back to 100%" and be able to fix "the rest of the issues with the team" - how can you say "this season is not salvageable"

what the hell do you expect of these players and coaches?

RG3 gets back to 100% ... AND ... the offense, defense and special teams start to play really well

thanks for clarifying :roll:

I say I don't think this season is salvageable because I don't think these issues can be fixed in the next week or two, which is what it would take to salvage this season...they might be fixable over the course of the rest of the season...

The Redskins have "issues" - but they also are getting 'better' each week
you think they cannot salvage the season - why not? - the season has 10 games left - a lot can happen

why does the team need to make everything 'right' in the next 2 weeks?

why be so negative?

give it some time - we're obviously not going to win every game but I do think we'll continue to see improvement


While the team is getting 'better' each week, their week-to-week improvement is not significant enough to result in a playoff calibur team.

To put it in other words, lets use a Madden NFL example and say a typical playoff team is producing at a rate of 90 points. In the first game, the skins were a 70. They have improved each week by 2 points. Even though we're improving, it will take us 10 games of this type of improvement before we are playing at a playoff calibur level.

And I don't get your "we don't need to fix things in the next 2 weeks" statement. In fact, if you do believe this season is salvagable, the statement is 100% incorrect. Because if things don't get "right" in 2 weeks, we'll be 1-6 and need to most likely go 8-1 all while playing the Chargers, 49ers, Chiefs, Falcons, and 4 NFC East rivalry games. DO YOU REALLY SEE THAT HAPPENING!!! Based on what this team has produced thus far? We're 1-4. Time is not on our side. With the understanding we'll lose to the Broncos, Chiefs, and 49ers, we are basically in season survival mode NOW.
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I don't understand why some fans want to look beyond this week - we cannot do anything about the Broncos game ..

we ONLY need to play well this week - win or lose - if we play well that is all that matters


we are not playing well - as soon as we start playing well we'll start winning that game that week :lol:
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When members talk about RGIII being back 100%, I am not sure he will ever be 100% the player he was last yr. Consider he was a rookie and was allowed to do his thing with what appeared to be no consideration of consequences. Do you think he will be allowed to continue this reckless approach or will he be held in check for his own protection?
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Little by little...game by game.

Now if the Redskins could get the defense in shape...
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welch wrote:Little by little...game by game.

Now if the Redskins could get the defense in shape...


After the Bear's game: Anybody now think RG3 should be benched?
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SKINS#1 wrote:When members talk about RGIII being back 100%, I am not sure he will ever be 100% the player he was last yr. Consider he was a rookie and was allowed to do his thing with what appeared to be no consideration of consequences. Do you think he will be allowed to continue this reckless approach or will he be held in check for his own protection?


RG3 (or RGIII) has been physically ready to play since August

I'm just really enjoying have some fans here be proven so wrong in their estimation about how good our QB is at this time

and

how quickly he would be able to PROVE to be the great QB we all expected again

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riggofan wrote:
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riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?
Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have you been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.

Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?


:lol: I'm sure we'll hear from OldSchool soon .... :lol:

or maybe not :twisted:
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funsho2 wrote:RG3 is not a good pocket passer ..... time to go in a different direction


oh really! - care to add anything? ... :twisted:
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crazyhorse1 wrote:
welch wrote:Little by little...game by game.

Now if the Redskins could get the defense in shape...


After the Bear's game: Anybody now think RG3 should be benched?


His fakes, reads, cuts, and throws looked FAST today; mechanics were tight.
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HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
welch wrote:Little by little...game by game.

Now if the Redskins could get the defense in shape...


After the Bear's game: Anybody now think RG3 should be benched?


His fakes, reads, cuts, and throws looked FAST today; mechanics were tight.


I agree.. for the most part he played safe as well. A couple of slides and/or throw aways in a few situations and I think the media would've been happier. It was definitely a step up this week. I'm anxious for him to settle in, go through his progressions a little better (of course he'd have to do it damn fast w this line), and hope to see some more pump fakes and looking off the receivers to help them get some space. Overall a solid performance though
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Griffin played his best game today. The Bear defense isn't what used to be but because Skin wasn't controlling the Bear Griffin had to perform and he did. I was surprised, maybe he can get it going now that he is running more.
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cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
welch wrote:Little by little...game by game.

Now if the Redskins could get the defense in shape...


After the Bear's game: Anybody now think RG3 should be benched?


His fakes, reads, cuts, and throws looked FAST today; mechanics were tight.


I agree.. for the most part he played safe as well. A couple of slides and/or throw aways in a few situations and I think the media would've been happier. It was definitely a step up this week. I'm anxious for him to settle in, go through his progressions a little better (of course he'd have to do it damn fast w this line), and hope to see some more pump fakes and looking off the receivers to help them get some space. Overall a solid performance though


Absolutely! Like you said, he definitely played a lot safer especially with his runs. Its not perfect, but looking pretty good; add in some slides and a little less contact and he's close to perfection on his runs. He looks FAST too!

I've been blown away by DHall in these last two games. Really hoping he continues doing whatever he has been.
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