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Cassell is a turnover machine.
KC will most definitely NOT be offering Bowe to anyone.

Yeah I don't see Bowe going anywhere, as he's KC's 2nd best offensive player.

But honestly I'da maybe considered Flowers & him for Kirk.

I'd prolly want a late round pick thrown in too tho.. even if it was in next years draft.

Countertrey wrote:Cassell is a turnover machine.
KC will most definitely NOT be offering Bowe to anyone.

Why not

Sure they would have to actually re-sign him before next week... and he's going to want more than the $9M+ per year that he got last year.

Throw in the BIG Ole signing bonus the top free agent WR will expect... the same BIG Ole signing bonus (ALL of IT regardless of the length of the deal(once they have a deal)) KC would have to eat at the time of the trade.

I could see him as been a option had been a option. Considering players that are traded, have their contract move with them (a lot of them are then reworked). Considering Bowe isn't under contract with ANY team, this would have been the prefect time to trade a player like Bowe to some sucker trying to unload a QB. .

IMHO the Redskins are most definitely NOT be offering Cousins to anyone... ... this year

No way. Don't even think about it this year. Next year maybe. No guarantee that Griffin will be ready by the start of the season.

This was a silly question last season when RGIII only had a "sprained LCL" and it's borderline insane now that he has a torn ACL and LCL and is not certain to be 100% for the entire season.

If anything, you keep Cousins and if he continues to play well, he drives up his value for a future trade in Year 3 or more realistically 4.

this franchise will be keeping Kirk Cousins for at least 1 more season

we have issues, sure ... HOWEVER .... we're NOT going to 'weaken' the most important part of the team - NO WAY

I fully expect RG3 to start the season at QB

we're just NOT going to move Kirk Cousins at this time - there's no pressing need to do that - NONE

I would trade him.....Reason being is HOW does the staff continue to install 2 different type offenses. Kirk doesnt run the read option AT ALL, which is kinda confusing considering hes pretty mobile, when hes in there. Why not grt something and either get ....ohh man, Im gonna catch it.....Vince Young to back RG3 up AND maybe in the 4-5 round select Denard Robinson in the draft. I know he doesnt have great height, a reason hes projected and learning the WR position....He could be our slot guy while learning the QB position...Young would be a 1-2 year deal.....I just think its gotta be tuff to install 2 systems at the same time....

ova da weekend "heard" something bout cousins to the browns.. n e 1 else hear bout dat? rumors or truth to it?

1niksder wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Cassell is a turnover machine.
KC will most definitely NOT be offering Bowe to anyone.

Why not :?:

Sure they would have to actually re-sign him before next week... and he's going to want more than the $9M+ per year that he got last year.

Throw in the BIG Ole signing bonus the top free agent WR will expect... the same BIG Ole signing bonus (ALL of IT regardless of the length of the deal(once they have a deal)) KC would have to eat at the time of the trade.

I could see him as been a option had been a option. Considering players that are traded, have their contract move with them (a lot of them are then reworked). Considering Bowe isn't under contract with ANY team, this would have been the prefect time to trade a player like Bowe to some sucker trying to unload a QB. .

IMHO the Redskins are most definitely NOT be offering Cousins to anyone... ... this year

Because he is the only truly reliable weapon their new quarterback has. Up until the point they got Smith, a deal for Bowe would have been a possibility... they will now not only make sure they sign him... they will keep him.

langleyparkjoe wrote:ova da weekend "heard" something bout cousins to the browns.. n e 1 else hear bout dat? rumors or truth to it?

I haven't heard anything on that bro.

What would be the compensation?

No. You can get more in a few years. He is a good back up for Griffen right now

Absolutely not, Cousins is the future. With two major knee surgeries in three years, the Third's career window is getting smaller with time and when it happens next time (not if, but when) he will be done.

masterkwon wrote:Absolutely not, Cousins is the future. With two major knee surgeries in three years, the Third's career window is getting smaller with time and when it happens next time (not if, but when) he will be done.

Please! Troll much?

burgngold4life wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:ova da weekend "heard" something bout cousins to the browns.. n e 1 else hear bout dat? rumors or truth to it?

I haven't heard anything on that bro.

What would be the compensation?

The bottom of the screen said draft picks but I don't know exactly which. Browns need a qb though but I wouldn't give him up for just any crappy picks... He's worth a lot to me just backing up RG3 and not Rex Grossman.

Deadskins wrote:

masterkwon wrote:Absolutely not, Cousins is the future. With two major knee surgeries in three years, the Third's career window is getting smaller with time and when it happens next time (not if, but when) he will be done.

Please! Troll much?

Yep.

Redskins Won't Trade Kirk Cousins

Published Feb. 11, 2013
By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

It has become clear that the 2013 NFL Draft class is lacking in quarterback talent. The top signal-caller, West Virginia's Geno Smith, is not a lock to go with the first-overall pick, and there is no established second quarterback who has proven to be worthy of a first-round selection.

If it weren't for the demand for signal-callers, there would only be one quarterback selected in the top 32 this coming April. There are plenty of teams around the league that are in dire need of a quarterback, so the trade market for veteran quarterbacks could be very active this offseason.

One of the most intriguing backups in the NFL is Washington Redskins second-year pro Kirk Cousins. After trading a king's ransom to land Robert Griffin III with the second-overall pick, the Redskins shocked many by using their next selection on Cousins in the fourth round. General manager Bruce Allen received a lot of criticism for not addressing a different need, but Allen stayed true to his draft board and looks like a genius in hindsight.

While Griffin was banged up late in the season, Cousins (6-3, 209) was a clutch replacement to help Washington win the NFC East. He completed 69 percent of his passes, 33-of-48, for 466 yards, four touchdowns and three interceptions. Cousins has three seasons remaining on a four-year, $2.5 million contract he signed before his first training camp. As a starting quarterback that would be an insane value from a salary cap perspective. Cousins is extremely intriguing for a team looking to acquire a quarterback.

Cousins' football IQ is tremendous. Having him in the meeting room helped Griffin to develop, and the two quarterbacks worked extremely well together. With Griffin coming off a knee injury, Cousins should see a lot of good developmental snaps with the starters during the spring OTAs and mini-camps.

Even though there are plenty of teams that could be interested in trading for Cousins, the Redskins have zero interest in dealing him. Allen will assuredly listen to what another team would offer him, but Washington will not be shopping Cousins. He could be a needed fill-in for the Redskins in 2013 and they love having a reliable backup like Cousins.

Thus, the 2014 or 2015 offseason would be the time to shop Cousins. If he gets on the field and performs well, obviously he will drive up the price tag and Washington could hope to regain some of the first-round picks the team used to land Griffin.

With Griffin firmly in place as the Redskins' franchise quarterback, Washington has the ability to follow Ron Wolf's example in Green Bay by developing and eventually trading quality backup quarterbacks. While Brett Favre was leading the Packers to the postseason on an annual basis, Wolf developed and traded away Mark Brunell, Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Brooks.

The Redskins could easily follow that model, but probably won't start down that road for another year or two.