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Chris Luva Luva wrote:

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

Quackjack wrote:A Center

Will Montgomery has proven himself a pretty darned good Center... I don't think Center is on the radar...

Plus hasn't Lebrius been practicing on and off as a backup center as well?

They cross-train their offensive linemen as a means of redundancy.

Kory L. is also a guy that can play center, and he'll be re-signed

1niksder wrote:Kory L. is also a guy that can play center, and he'll be re-signed

I think these guys realize this is an offense that they fit in. They're undersized and aren't gonna get a huge pay day from most teams. The ONLY exeception is Trent. Although, Chester could prolly go elsewhere and get a little money. I don't think we'll have an issue resigning Kory.

So what's the general consensus on Compton? Is it being said that he is a high quality starter?

LeBrius looked good in the Dallas game. I have high hopes for this kid.

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:So what's the general consensus on Compton? Is it being said that he is a high quality starter?

LeBrius looked good in the Dallas game. I have high hopes for this kid.

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:So what's the general consensus on Compton? Is it being said that he is a high quality starter?

LeBrius looked good in the Dallas game. I have high hopes for this kid.

I don't think there is an ACCURATE PUBLIC CONSENSUS. None of us really know. You can't go by draft reports because Mike selects linemen that fit his scheme. These guys would grade low for 80% of the league. Going into the season the entire world thought that this line was garbage and they played really well. If you can get a competent QB that doesn't pat the ball all day, it's gonna aid the line. RGIII had a lot to do with how well they played but it's not unique to our team. Do you think Indy's all-world line got worse after Peyton got injured? No... They were the same guys, but they had hot-garbage under center.

This team will benefit from playing the people they've drafted. If they've choosen well... Last year proved that they've made some good choices. There are sure to be a dud here or there but I feel good about their selections. We're strapped for cash, let's continue to grow our existing talent. Let's get those 2nd year players rolling and whomever we draft this year and start the same process.

I'm a Md Alum, watch all the Terps games. Have seen Kenny Tate his whole time at MD.

Came in as a highly recruited WR. Fridge converted him to Safety, he became a huge hitter, great safety for MD. Edsall asked him to gain weight and converted him to LB - Will LB I think.

He'd be a super 7th round pick. If we think he won't get drafted, a great local Free Agent. I'd ask him to drop weight and be a Strong Safety.

fredp45 wrote:I'm a Md Alum, watch all the Terps games. Have seen Kenny Tate his whole time at MD.

Came in as a highly recruited WR. Fridge converted him to Safety, he became a huge hitter, great safety for MD. Edsall asked him to gain weight and converted him to LB - Will LB I think.

He'd be a super 7th round pick. If we think he won't get drafted, a great local Free Agent. I'd ask him to drop weight and be a Strong Safety.

Why keep making him switch positions? Does that mean he's not really good at any of them?

Since our secondary had issues this past season. I am starting to lean towards safety. I think adding a quality saftey would help both corners. So I think we should draft either one of these two.

Matt Elam or TJ Mcdonald. Both players may be available in the 2nd round. Matt Elam may go in the first if so TJ Mcdonald I believe is an underrated safety who can play.


http://walterfootball.com/draft2013S.php

Here are our last two drafts followed by names I'm seeing a lot.

2011 Draft
1.16 Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
2.09 Jarvis Jenkins, DL, Clemson
3.15 Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
4.08 Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska
5.15 Dejon Gomes, DB, Nebraska
5.24 Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
6.12 Evan Royster, RB, Penn St.
6.13 Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
7.10 Brandyn Thompson, DB, Boise St.
7.14 Maurice Hurt, OL, Florida
7.21 Markus White, DE, Florida St.
7.50 Chris Neild, DT, West Virginia

2012 Draft
1.02 Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
3.08 Josh LeRibeus, OG, Southern Methodist
4.07 Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
4.24 Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
5.06 Adam Gettis, OG, Iowa
6.03 Alfred Morris, RB, Florida Atlantic
6.23 Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
7.06 Richard Crawford, DB, Southern Methodist
7.10 Jordan Bernstine, CB, Iowa

Phillip Thomas, SS, Fresno State
Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia
Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
Tony Jefferson, FS, Oklahoma
Eric Reid, FS, LSU
Brian Winters, OT, Kent State

The SS Phillip Thomas, wasn't he a Redskins fan growing up...? Sure I read that somewhere...

DarthMonk wrote:Here are our last two drafts followed by names I'm seeing a lot.

2011 Draft
1.16 Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
2.09 Jarvis Jenkins, DL, Clemson
3.15 Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
4.08 Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska
5.15 Dejon Gomes, DB, Nebraska
5.24 Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
6.12 Evan Royster, RB, Penn St.
6.13 Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
7.10 Brandyn Thompson, DB, Boise St.
7.14 Maurice Hurt, OL, Florida
7.21 Markus White, DE, Florida St.
7.50 Chris Neild, DT, West Virginia

2012 Draft
1.02 Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
3.08 Josh LeRibeus, OG, Southern Methodist
4.07 Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
4.24 Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
5.06 Adam Gettis, OG, Iowa
6.03 Alfred Morris, RB, Florida Atlantic
6.23 Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
7.06 Richard Crawford, DB, Southern Methodist
7.10 Jordan Bernstine, CB, Iowa

to see how many of these guys are still on the team and contributing.

The Hogster wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:Here are our last two drafts followed by names I'm seeing a lot.

2011 Draft
1.16 Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
2.09 Jarvis Jenkins, DL, Clemson
3.15 Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
4.08 Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska
5.15 Dejon Gomes, DB, Nebraska
5.24 Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
6.12 Evan Royster, RB, Penn St.
6.13 Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
7.10 Brandyn Thompson, DB, Boise St.
7.14 Maurice Hurt, OL, Florida
7.21 Markus White, DE, Florida St.
7.50 Chris Neild, DT, West Virginia

2012 Draft
1.02 Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
3.08 Josh LeRibeus, OG, Southern Methodist
4.07 Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
4.24 Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
5.06 Adam Gettis, OG, Iowa
6.03 Alfred Morris, RB, Florida Atlantic
6.23 Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
7.06 Richard Crawford, DB, Southern Methodist
7.10 Jordan Bernstine, CB, Iowa

to see how many of these guys are still on the team and contributing.

Zakly

Almost every pick from the last two years has panned out. Wow thats great to see.

DarthMonk wrote:Here are our last two drafts followed by names I'm seeing a lot.

2011 Draft
1.16 Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
2.09 Jarvis Jenkins, DL, Clemson
3.15 Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
4.08 Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska
5.15 Dejon Gomes, DB, Nebraska
5.24 Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
6.12 Evan Royster, RB, Penn St.
6.13 Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
7.10 Brandyn Thompson, DB, Boise St.
7.14 Maurice Hurt, OL, Florida
7.21 Markus White, DE, Florida St.
7.50 Chris Neild, DT, West Virginia

2012 Draft
1.02 Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
3.08 Josh LeRibeus, OG, Southern Methodist
4.07 Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
4.24 Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
5.06 Adam Gettis, OG, Iowa
6.03 Alfred Morris, RB, Florida Atlantic
6.23 Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
7.06 Richard Crawford, DB, Southern Methodist
7.10 Jordan Bernstine, CB, Iowa

Phillip Thomas, SS, Fresno State
Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia
Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
Tony Jefferson, FS, Oklahoma
Eric Reid, FS, LSU
Brian Winters, OT, Kent State

But, but, but, but, the CAP penalty means the end of this team!!!!

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:Here are our last two drafts followed by names I'm seeing a lot.

2011 Draft
1.16 Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue
2.09 Jarvis Jenkins, DL, Clemson
3.15 Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
4.08 Roy Helu, RB, Nebraska
5.15 Dejon Gomes, DB, Nebraska
5.24 Niles Paul, WR, Nebraska
6.12 Evan Royster, RB, Penn St.
6.13 Aldrick Robinson, WR, SMU
7.10 Brandyn Thompson, DB, Boise St.
7.14 Maurice Hurt, OL, Florida
7.21 Markus White, DE, Florida St.
7.50 Chris Neild, DT, West Virginia

2012 Draft
1.02 Robert Griffin, QB, Baylor
3.08 Josh LeRibeus, OG, Southern Methodist
4.07 Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
4.24 Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
5.06 Adam Gettis, OG, Iowa
6.03 Alfred Morris, RB, Florida Atlantic
6.23 Tom Compton, OT, South Dakota
7.06 Richard Crawford, DB, Southern Methodist
7.10 Jordan Bernstine, CB, Iowa

Phillip Thomas, SS, Fresno State
Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia
Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
Tony Jefferson, FS, Oklahoma
Eric Reid, FS, LSU
Brian Winters, OT, Kent State

But, but, but, but, the CAP penalty means the end of this team!!!!

I am focusing on CB and Safety (both SS and FS). These are my top picks in both positions:

CB

Dee Milliner Alabama 6'1" 198
Desmond Trufant Washington 6'0" 186
Johnathan Banks Mississippi State 6'1" 185
Xavier Rhodes Florida State 6'1" 217
Logan Ryan Rutgers 6'0" 190

SS
Jonathan Cyprien Florida International 6'0" 210
Matt Elam Florida 5'10" 202 2

FS
Kenny Vaccaro Texas 6'1" 218
Eric Reid LSU 6'2'' 212
Phillip Thomas Fresno State 6'1" 215

I am not ruling out the need to fill other positions, particularly RT on the OL, as well as the view to select the best next available player but with the results and stats from last year my priorities are clear.

I may not be able to be active in the board these days due to work but I am watching you, guys. Choose wisely.

Redskin in Canada wrote: I may not be able to be active in the board these days due to work but I am watching you, guys. Choose wisely.

Your priorities are messed up.

Erik "EJ" Manuel Jr. is a 6’4", 237 lb. Red shirt Senior, ranked 6th out of 146 Quarterbacks nationally and the 61st overall prospect in the 2013 NFL Draft. His pre-Combine 40 Time is listed as 4.67 seconds. He is currently projected as a 2nd round pick in April’s draft.

EJ’s size will make scouts drool and thus drive him up the draft boards. He is the one of the most accurate QB’s in FSU history with a 66.1 completion percentage. His pocket presence as well as his speed and elusiveness as a runner puts him right up there as one of the top Quarterbacks in the country going into the national Scouting Combine.

Just throwing out another name as a back-up for the Captain besides Rex.

DarthMonk wrote:Erik "EJ" Manuel Jr. is a 6’4", 237 lb. Red shirt Senior, ranked 6th out of 146 Quarterbacks nationally and the 61st overall prospect in the 2013 NFL Draft. His pre-Combine 40 Time is listed as 4.67 seconds. He is currently projected as a 2nd round pick in April’s draft.

EJ’s size will make scouts drool and thus drive him up the draft boards. He is the one of the most accurate QB’s in FSU history with a 66.1 completion percentage. His pocket presence as well as his speed and elusiveness as a runner puts him right up there as one of the top Quarterbacks in the country going into the national Scouting Combine.

Just throwing out another name as a back-up for the Captain besides Rex.

I'm pretty sure we won't be drafting a QB this year. There'd have to be someone really great, that everyone else passed on until the sixth or seventh round. And even then, it'd be real hard to pull that trigger.

This years draft is loaded with talented DL and DB prospects. Good thing for us.

Countertrey wrote:

Quackjack wrote:A Center

Will Montgomery has proven himself a pretty darned good Center... I don't think Center is on the radar...

I think it is if we can get someone who can start Day 1. Will costs is $4M this year and we're strapped for cash.

Also, we don't have a true backup at center. If we can get a good one, we should. IMHO.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

Quackjack wrote:A Center

Will Montgomery has proven himself a pretty darned good Center... I don't think Center is on the radar...

I think it is if we can get someone who can start Day 1. Will costs is $4M this year and we're strapped for cash.

Also, we don't have a true backup at center. If we can get a good one, we should. IMHO.

brian schwenke is definately worth a look

help on the d side of the ball is my concern secondary needs to upgraded for sure SAFETY ..... CORNER ..... then DLINE depth .... i think our LBs are solid.
always need OLINE depth.
then TE is a concern.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTjE6cbMEDs

Johnathan Banks CB, 6-2 , 185 lbs, Mississipi State

David Amerson CB , N.C. State, 6-3 , 200lbs


He is big, tall and fast. Physical cornerback who had a good combine workout. He may go in the first or second round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D0ZQNlCoi0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREjDTpTedE

Matt Elam S, Florida , 5-10 , 205lbs