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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:20 pm
by skinsfan#33
The Junkies were bashing our groups of RBs and a couple of them think we have the worst group of RB in the NFL. So I wanted to see how the starting RBs in the NFC East stack up.
This list is based on 7 games (unless stated other wise) and is a per game average. I added D. Murray's full season stats because he had a game over 200 yards that he didn't start in. Those yards are lincluded in Murray (season).
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Name__________Carries / Yd_____Ave__100 yd
Helu____________20.8 / 84.4_____4.1____3
Royster_________19.5 / 122.5____6.3____2
Both____________20.4 / 95.3_____4.7____5
McCoy (last 7)__17.4 / 69.1______4_____2
Bradshaw________14.7 / 59.6_____4.1____1
Murray__________16.3 / 81.6______5_____2
Murray (season)_12.6 / 69_______5.5_____3
Name__________Carries / Yd_____Ave_____Games
Helu_____________3.6 / 24.2______3_____5 started
Royster__________3.5 / 33.5______2_____2 started
Both_____________3.6 / 26.9______5_____7 started
McCoy (last 7)___2.9 / 18.7______2_____7 started
Bradshaw_________3.2 / 26.7______1_____9 started
Murray___________3.1 / 22.9______2_____7 started
Murray (season)____2 / 14.1______3_____13 played
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:25 pm
by Deadskins
I know Royster didn't play that much, but 6.3 YPC? How can anyone think he's not a good RB?
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:31 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
I don't know what those stats are showing/from but for the year I'm pretty certain Royster was right at 5.9 ypc and helu just a little less.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:43 pm
by The Hogster
ATX_Skins wrote:I haven't watched too much of these guys in the pre season but which one do you guys think is the best in pass blocking?
Tough to say because the preseason didn't give Royster & Helu a lot of reps against different blitzes since teams are somewhat basic & the both missed games.
I would say Royster by a little based on last year. But, once Morris learns to do it better, I think his power and reckless style will be better suited for pass blocking.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:56 pm
by Red_One43
Keim's Assessment of the RB Situation
The Redskins could opt for Alfred Morris' feel-good story, turning the sixth-round pick into a starter. They could opt for reliable Evan Royster, a tough inside runner. Or they could go with Roy Helu, a potential outside threat.
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:39 pm
by skinsfan#33
cowboykillerzRED wrote:I don't know what those stats are showing/from but for the year I'm pretty certain Royster was right at 5.9 ypc and helu just a little less.
You're may be correct, but I was only looking at the two games he started and the five games Helu started and compared those seven games to seven games of other starting RBs in our division.
Each line is a per game average. So you can see that in the two games Royster started he averaged 122.5 yards on 19.5 caries, both 100+ yard games. Helu started five games and averaged 84.4 yards on 20.8 caries with three 100+ yard games.
Combined they had five 100 yard games and racked up 95.3 on 20.4 yards per game. Their performance in this seven game stretch is better than any of the RBs in our division.
In other words, I have complete faith that as long as our OL plays well our RBs are capable of being as good as any back in our division.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:10 am
by cowboykillerzRGiii
skinsfan#33 wrote:cowboykillerzRED wrote:I don't know what those stats are showing/from but for the year I'm pretty certain Royster was right at 5.9 ypc and helu just a little less.
You're may be correct, but I was only looking at the two games he started and the five games Helu started and compared those seven games to seven games of other starting RBs in our division.
Each line is a per game average. So you can see that in the two games Royster started he averaged 122.5 yards on 19.5 caries, both 100+ yard games. Helu started five games and averaged 84.4 yards on 20.8 caries with three 100+ yard games.
Combined they had five 100 yard games and racked up 95.3 on 20.4 yards per game. Their performance in this seven game stretch is better than any of the RBs in our division.
In other words, I have complete faith that as long as our OL plays well our RBs are capable of being as good as any back in our division.
gotchya!
For the "majority" of voters whom support Alfred Morris.. can I get some insight? Besides a fluke game against a fluke D in the fluke OFF-season wtf has he done?.. oh ya NADA. 3.3 ypc against vanilla flavored bs Ds. Open your damb eyes he's a rook... It's Roy or < Evan.
Someone PLEASE challenge my statements with facts. I tripple dog dare ya!
Leading ALLTIME rusher for Penn state, 100+ yards per game every start, and an impressive 5.9 ypc as a Rookie in a new system
Who ever didn't vote Royster needs to sip on some hateraid!, and I'm out!
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:11 am
by cowboykillerzRGiii
skinsfan#33 wrote:cowboykillerzRED wrote:I don't know what those stats are showing/from but for the year I'm pretty certain Royster was right at 5.9 ypc and helu just a little less.
You're may be correct, but I was only looking at the two games he started and the five games Helu started and compared those seven games to seven games of other starting RBs in our division.
Each line is a per game average. So you can see that in the two games Royster started he averaged 122.5 yards on 19.5 caries, both 100+ yard games. Helu started five games and averaged 84.4 yards on 20.8 caries with three 100+ yard games.
Combined they had five 100 yard games and racked up 95.3 on 20.4 yards per game. Their performance in this seven game stretch is better than any of the RBs in our division.
In other words, I have complete faith that as long as our OL plays well our RBs are capable of being as good as any back in our division.
gotchya!
For the "majority" of voters whom support Alfred Morris.. can I get some insight? Besides a fluke game against a fluke D in the fluke OFF-season wtf has he done?.. oh ya NADA. 3.3 ypc against vanilla flavored bs Ds. Open your damb eyes he's a rook... It's Roy or < Evan.
Someone PLEASE challenge my statements with facts. I tripple dog dare ya!
Leading ALLTIME rusher for Penn state, 100+ yards per game every start, and an impressive 5.9 ypc as a Rookie in a new system
Who ever didn't vote Royster needs to sip on some hateraid!, and I'm out!
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:47 am
by tribeofjudah
What is the lovefest for Morris. Ok, Ok, Shanny knows how to discover talent and he has done so, year in and year out.
Morris is a rook and he had a great game in preseason. Let's remain optimistic and see how he does in the REAL games.
I personally like HELU....see my sig below
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:03 am
by SkinsJock
who really cares who starts?
I hope we get good games from all the RBs and they all are able to help this offense
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:19 am
by Chris Luva Luva
SkinsJock wrote:I hope we get good games from all the RBs and they all are able to help this offense
In a perfect world....
SkinsJock wrote:who really cares who starts?
People who don't live in perfect worlds.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:27 am
by 1niksder
tribeofjudah wrote:What is the lovefest for Morris. Ok, Ok, Shanny knows how to discover talent and he has done so, year in and year out.
Morris is a rook and he had a great game in preseason. Let's remain optimistic and see how he does in the REAL games.
I personally like HELU....see my sig below
Best I can tell both Royster and Helu were rookies last season and neither has played a full season, both have dealt with injuries (last season and this off-season), both had pretty good years with a spotty O-line. throw in Morris and you have a committee.
Shanny named Royster the starter, he said they won't know who will start until Sat. afternoon... I like Morris but don't really care who starts as long has whoever is in there produces and PROTECTS RGIII.
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:08 am
by SkinsJock
Chris Luva Luva wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I hope we get good games from all the RBs and they all are able to help this offense
In a perfect world....
SkinsJock wrote:who really cares who starts?
People who don't live in perfect worlds.
thanks for that - just back from vacation and wanted to stir the pot
I'd love to see each of the 3 RBs get 70 yards on the ground
I know that's not likely but it would throw the fantasy guys into a tailspin if we had a great ground game spread out amongst all our backs
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:27 am
by Red_One43
Report-Morris to start at running back
Robert Griffin III won’t be the only rookie in the Redskins’ backfield when they take their first offensive snap at 1:00 in New Orleans.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:16 am
by The Hogster
Red_One43 wrote:Report-Morris to start at running back
Robert Griffin III won’t be the only rookie in the Redskins’ backfield when they take their first offensive snap at 1:00 in New Orleans.
He needs to change his number then!
He wore 32 in college, and it's a available now. I can't tell you how much I hate number 46. It's cursesd.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:22 am
by Red_One43
The Hogster wrote:Red_One43 wrote:Report-Morris to start at running back
Robert Griffin III won’t be the only rookie in the Redskins’ backfield when they take their first offensive snap at 1:00 in New Orleans.
He needs to change his number then!
He wore 32 in college, and it's a available now. I can't tell you how much I hate number 46. It's cursesd.
Agreed he should change it, but you know those rookies especially th 6th rounders. The only thing on his mind is that his dream is coming true. Next year, when his head clears, he will think like a veteran and change his number before someone grabs 32.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:03 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
Red_One43 wrote:Report-Morris to start at running back
Robert Griffin III won’t be the only rookie in the Redskins’ backfield when they take their first offensive snap at 1:00 in New Orleans.
Does Shanny have to announce who starts? Does it matter? Who gets the first carry isn't a lock on getting the most.
Who to play and who to sit Royster and LaMicheal James.....hmmmm