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SouthLondonRedskin wrote:Gutted.

I just had a feeling this was coming though...

Link to his 'Goodbye' is below, prepare to choke up....

http://blog.redskins.com/2012/08/28/video-chris-cooley-says-goodbye/

frankcal20 wrote:What I'm mostly PISSED off about is that we didn't figure out any way to get anything for him at all. That's what just doesn't make any sense to me. I understand his salary sucks but there's got a be a way to work it out with the new team to sign him to an extension or fully renegotiate it with him to make it a more trade friendly cap hit.

langleyparkjoe wrote:<-- sick to the stomach.

Just one guy finish out his career here with us and retire immediately.. that's all I wanted from Synder.

I mean, we couldn't restructure ey's contract to stay with us for the very few years he has left?

Not sure who will pick him up at his age and with his past injuries but obviously I wish him the greatest of luck and I hope I can be at Fedex when he comes back to retire a Skin.

Irn-Bru wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:<-- sick to the stomach.

Just one guy finish out his career here with us and retire immediately.. that's all I wanted from Synder.

Chris Sammuels. Mike Sellers. London Fletcher and Santana Moss (probably). It's rare, but then again that's the NFL.

langleyparkjoe wrote:<-- sick to the stomach.

Just one guy finish out his career here with us and retire immediately.. that's all I wanted from Synder.

I mean, we couldn't restructure ey's contract to stay with us for the very few years he has left?

Not sure who will pick him up at his age and with his past injuries but obviously I wish him the greatest of luck and I hope I can be at Fedex when he comes back to retire a Skin.

Former Redskins tight end Chris ey believes he can still play, and he doesn’t seem to be interested in playing for another team.

In the end, he could be right back with the Redskins.

The hint came not long into his press conference. “Today, for the time being, will be my last day as a Redskin,” ey said.

Though it’s unclear whether the Redskins’ decision to cut ey was preceded by a request to reduce his base salary of $3.8 million, an important factor was absent from the normal take-a-pay-cut-or-take-a-hike protocol: ey has no agent.

His agent, Gary Wichard, died March 11, 2011, the day the player lockout started. NFLPA records still list Wichard as ey’s agent.

If ey had an agent, the agent could have “gauged the market” for ey’s services, calling around to see who would be interested and how much they would pay before giving the Redskins an answer. (Yes, it’s tampering. And, yes, it happens all the time.)

Since ey has no agent, the Redskins had to cut ey before he could find out whether and to what extent their offer compares favorably to what other teams would pay. In the end, with or without an agent, ey may realize that the reduced money the Redskins would be willing to pay ey is still more than what anyone else would offer — especially with ey hitting the market less than two weeks before the start of the 2012 regular season.

Still, ey could have options elsewhere, especially with teams copying the Patriots multi-tight-end approach. His best move would be to quickly hire someone to gather offers so that, in the end, he can decide whether his best move will be to return to the Redskins for a much lower salary in 2012.

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:For those that think Shanny doesn't give a toss, he's the story from CSNWashington with footage of Shanny shedding a tear as ey says his goodbyes...

http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/Redskins-release-Cooley?blockID=764213&feedID=10316

frankcal20 wrote:What I'm mostly PISSED off about is that we didn't figure out any way to get anything for him at all. That's what just doesn't make any sense to me. I understand his salary sucks but there's got a be a way to work it out with the new team to sign him to an extension or fully renegotiate it with him to make it a more trade friendly cap hit.

Deadskins wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:<-- sick to the stomach.

Just one guy finish out his career here with us and retire immediately.. that's all I wanted from Synder.

Chris Sammuels. Mike Sellers. London Fletcher and Santana Moss (probably). It's rare, but then again that's the NFL.

I think he meant start and finish here. Samuels fits that bill.

Former Redskins tight end Chris ey believes he can still play, and he doesn’t seem to be interested in playing for another team.

In the end, he could be right back with the Redskins.

The hint came not long into his press conference. “Today, for the time being, will be my last day as a Redskin,” ey said.

Irn-Bru wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:<-- sick to the stomach.

Just one guy finish out his career here with us and retire immediately.. that's all I wanted from Synder.

Chris Sammuels. Mike Sellers. London Fletcher and Santana Moss (probably). It's rare, but then again that's the NFL.

I think he meant start and finish here. Samuels fits that bill.

OK. Chris Sammuels? He wanted just one guy, no?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:What I'm mostly PISSED off about is that we didn't figure out any way to get anything for him at all. That's what just doesn't make any sense to me. I understand his salary sucks but there's got a be a way to work it out with the new team to sign him to an extension or fully renegotiate it with him to make it a more trade friendly cap hit.

You're pissed about this, yet you have no idea if any of the parties wanted this.

- You don't know if Cooley wanted to be traded.
- You don't know if the salary could be worked out.
- You don't know if he'd be open to restructuring.
- You don't know if a team wanted him.


I don't get how people have such strong stances without ANY facts or knowledge to back it up. This isn't Madden folks, these are real people with goals and motives.

Deadskins wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:<-- sick to the stomach.

Just one guy finish out his career here with us and retire immediately.. that's all I wanted from Synder.

Chris Sammuels. Mike Sellers. London Fletcher and Santana Moss (probably). It's rare, but then again that's the NFL.

I think he meant start and finish here. Samuels fits that bill.

OK. Chris Sammuels? He wanted just one guy, no?

What did I say?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:What I'm mostly PISSED off about is that we didn't figure out any way to get anything for him at all. That's what just doesn't make any sense to me. I understand his salary sucks but there's got a be a way to work it out with the new team to sign him to an extension or fully renegotiate it with him to make it a more trade friendly cap hit.

You're pissed about this, yet you have no idea if any of the parties wanted this.

- You don't know if ey wanted to be traded.
- You don't know if the salary could be worked out.
- You don't know if he'd be open to restructuring.
- You don't know if a team wanted him.


I don't get how people have such strong stances without ANY facts or knowledge to back it up. This isn't Madden folks, these are real people with goals and motives.

SkinsJock wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:What I'm mostly PISSED off about is that we didn't figure out any way to get anything for him at all. That's what just doesn't make any sense to me. I understand his salary sucks but there's got a be a way to work it out with the new team to sign him to an extension or fully renegotiate it with him to make it a more trade friendly cap hit.

You're pissed about this, yet you have no idea if any of the parties wanted this.

- You don't know if Cooley wanted to be traded.
- You don't know if the salary could be worked out.
- You don't know if he'd be open to restructuring.
- You don't know if a team wanted him.


I don't get how people have such strong stances without ANY facts or knowledge to back it up. This isn't Madden folks, these are real people with goals and motives.

Thanks Chris for what you've done for both this franchise and for us, the fans

Like CLL pointed out - we really don't know the full details

fans like to vent their frustration - to insinuate this FO is not trying to put the best roster together is wrong

some guys here really do carry on like it's their fantasy team or an EA Sports team

this franchise was in dire straits a few years ago - these guys are trying to put a roster together both for this season and beyond

anyone that thinks this FO is trying to hurt the franchise does not have any idea about what is happening here

Irn-Bru wrote:If ey had come in and lit it up, he'd have a spot on the roster. But he lost a step. There were reports coming from camp, player comments, analysts, that all said this. But if the Skins had decided to part ways back on June 1st, it still would have been a guess. They had every reason to bring him in for training camp to see if he'd work out.

And keeping open the possibility of retaining ey in case Davis or Paul got injured was not classless. That was another legit chance for him to make the team for one last year and receive the millions his contract scheduled him for. Lots of players around the NFL sneak in an extra year or two this way. "Class" has nothing to do with it. He really had two chances to make the team: show that he hadn't lost a step, and take advantage of someone else's injury or inability to play TE.

What if the Skins had released him on June 1st? I bet you would have been livid — after all, at the time you were saying he'd have more catches than our 4th-6th WRs combined. And then suppose Davis got hurt in early August. I bet you would have been all over THN saying that the Skins should never have released him, because now we'd be looking to have him start on gameday.

It's damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Maybe you will deny that you'd have been mad; it's easy to deny anything. But are you willing to say that you would have called a June 1 release a classy move, at the time? Especially if another TE got hurt in July or August? I bet not.

He has time to find another team if he wants. I just don't see how anyone could see the Redskins as classless in this. Classless would be holding him until the final cuts and then informing him via text message or something.

frankcal20 wrote:What I'm mostly PISSED off about is that we didn't figure out any way to get anything for him at all. That's what just doesn't make any sense to me. I understand his salary sucks but there's got a be a way to work it out with the new team to sign him to an extension or fully renegotiate it with him to make it a more trade friendly cap hit.