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Hooligan wrote:Sounds like he may be having trouble compensating for being 30.

Sometimes age strikes suddenly (or slowly, and we try to ignore it) and we have trouble dealing with it. There comes a time when you need to sleep more than you used to, eat differently, train differently, take mobility exercise more seriously, etc. ey's not in his early 20's anymore and he has a lot of football miles on him. Maybe Fletcher needs to take the old man under his wing for a while. Heh.

My guess is that you are joking about the age. I had to look up what, "Heh" meant.

That being understood, in my opinion, definitely not an age issue or wear and tear.

If the knee becomes close to 100% by training camp, ey, even a step slower, would be a difference maker as a TE and a part time fullback (last year he lined up as a fullback).

IMO, I think that it is more of an issue like Malcolm Kelly's knee problem (emphasis on the knee problems -please excuse the mention of Kelly and ey in the same breath). Remember, with Shanny, Kelly was not sidelined because of the knee issues. First, it was the hammy (Cooley had a hammy problem in Mini Camp). The latest one for Kelly was the foot. ey hasn't had foot issues, but he had a groin problem during the OTAs. My point - athlete's with chronic knee problems tend to develop other leg issues regardless of age or football miles.

Is ey's knee a chronic problem? Using ey's words, its "tough to know," right now.

Hooligan wrote:Sounds like he may be having trouble compensating for being 30.

-snip-

Hooligan wrote: etc. ey's not in his early 20's anymore

+1

DarthMonk

Why so many on here are infatuated with ey is beyond me. He was a glimmer of hope in what could be considered this teams darkest days. (also see: Lavar Arrington).

I give ey credit for trying to cut the weight and rehab his injury, but there is only so much the body can take. Blocking was also never his strong point and now he's lighter...?

There is a new sheriff in town and RG3 needs no help selling tickets.

[quote="ATX_Skins"]Why so many on here are infatuated with ey is beyond me. He was a glimmer of hope in what could be considered this teams darkest days. (also see: Lavar Arrington).

I give ey credit for trying to cut the weight and rehab his injury, but there is only so much the body can take. Blocking was also never his strong point and now he's lighter...?

There is a new sheriff in town and RG3 needs no help selling tickets.[/quote]

But he DOES need reliable receivers.

yupchagee wrote:

ATX_Skins wrote:Why so many on here are infatuated with ey is beyond me. He was a glimmer of hope in what could be considered this teams darkest days. (also see: Lavar Arrington).

I give ey credit for trying to cut the weight and rehab his injury, but there is only so much the body can take. Blocking was also never his strong point and now he's lighter...?

There is a new sheriff in town and RG3 needs no help selling tickets.[/quote]

But he DOES need reliable receivers.

And also his wife...

Red_One43 wrote:Though RiC still hasn't provided a link for this thread, or have there been any corraborating stories, based on the end of the off season workouts, there is a possiblitiy that RiC's source is right about the nagging injuries for ey.

Same source referred to ey as "chronically ill". Sorry.

Apparently, no official announcements will be made before July 29 and only well timed (whatever that means) after that date. Team does not want to make early announcements.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:Though RiC still hasn't provided a link for this thread, or have there been any corraborating stories, based on the end of the off season workouts, there is a possiblitiy that RiC's source is right about the nagging injuries for ey.

Same source referred to ey as "chronically ill". Sorry.

Apparently, no official announcements will be made before July 29 and only well timed (whatever that means) after that date. Team does not want to make early announcements.

It is funny, the ONLY place I have heard that ey has been anything but healthy this postseason was one report during the first OTA.

That is it. His knee has been reported by several sources as a non issue so far and the groin was only a problem during the first OTA. I saw no mention of a hamstring issue (except here).

Now your "source" is insinuating he will be cut on July 29th. Why would they wait? Chris has earned enough respect by the organization if he was going to be cut, our was in danger of being cut, he would have been gone on June 1st.

Here is what we know:
- eys knee has been reported as a non issue
- The team didn't extend a long term contact to FD (and can't now until next off season)
- They are training up Niles Paul to be a TE and his skill set is close to FD than CC
- When healthy CC puts up top give TE numbers
- RG3 secretary needs a guy with CC's skill set (reliable receiver that is always open)

Any thing else is speculation (actually some of what I write is slight speculation too).

Redskin in Canada wrote:Same source referred to ey as "chronically ill". Sorry.

I'm going to keep hoping that you're wrong.

ATX_Skins wrote:Why so many on here are infatuated with ey is beyond me. He was a glimmer of hope in what could be considered this teams darkest days. (also see: Lavar Arrington).

Only an outsider wouldn't be able to comprehend the love people have for ey.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:Same source referred to ey as "chronically ill". Sorry.

I'm going to keep hoping that you're wrong.

ATX_Skins wrote:Why so many on here are infatuated with ey is beyond me. He was a glimmer of hope in what could be considered this teams darkest days. (also see: Lavar Arrington).

Only an outsider wouldn't be able to comprehend the love people have for ey.

+100

Deadskins wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:Same source referred to ey as "chronically ill". Sorry.

I'm going to keep hoping that you're wrong.

ATX_Skins wrote:Why so many on here are infatuated with ey is beyond me. He was a glimmer of hope in what could be considered this teams darkest days. (also see: Lavar Arrington).

Only an outsider wouldn't be able to comprehend the love people have for ey.

+100

I'll add another 100 to that as well

This article today on Hankerson is titled "Hankerson: I'm Ready", but reading it I'm not sure it really says whether he is ready to play or not.

Leonard Hankerson said his recovery from hip surgery remains on target and that he’s anxiously awaiting his return to the field next week at Redskins Park.

“Right now, I’m feeling pretty good,” the second-year receiver said at Brian Orakpo’s youth football camp in Fairfax. “I’ve been in the training room this whole off-season, working out, working on my hip, doing little things to get me prepared for next Wednesday.”

Veterans report to Ashburn on Wednesday; the first practice of training camp is Thursday.

“I can’t wait to get out there and get going and see how it goes for me,” added Hankerson, who, if healthy, could be another weapon for an improved receiving corps that includes veterans Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan and Santana Moss.

Kind of sounds like he won't know until next week if he is ready or not.

Full article is here:
http://www.csnwashington.com/football-w ... eedID=6458

Leonard Hankerson said his recovery from hip surgery remains on target and that he’s anxiously awaiting his return to the field next week at Redskins Park.

That article is casting serious doubt on RIC's source. I dunno man... I love me some RIC but I'm hoping his source is dead wrong.

skinsfan#33 wrote:That is it. His knee has been reported by several sources as a non issue so far and the groin was only a problem during the first OTA. I saw no mention of a hamstring issue (except here).

ey's Hammy reported by CBSsports.com during the Mini-Camp:

Cooley hurts hamstring: Redskins tight end Chris ey joined the injury list on Wednesday with what coach Mike Shanahan called a "slight" hamstring that wouldn't have sidelined him again if the Redskins were going to practice on Thursday. ey is now dealing with knee, groin and hamstring issues heading into training camp.
(Updated 06/14/2012)

John Keim, Washington Examiner, mentions the hammy:

Tight end Chris ey did not participate in the final practice of minicamp (Redskins coach Mike Shanahan called off the Thursday practice) because of a “slight hamstring” Shanahan said. Earlier in OTAs ey dealt with a slight groin issue. But Shanahan said the one positive is that ey’s knee continues to show no signs of swelling. Nor has he needed to have any fluid drained.

“Anytime you go full speed, especially running routes, it’s not unusual for guys to have a little setback here and there, but this is very minor,” Shanahan said.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/pl ... ris-cooley

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/727891

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I dunno man... I love me some RIC but I'm hoping his source is dead wrong.

For the record, I agree with you. I take no pleasure in learning of lingering injuries among out players.

I cautioned people to take these news with a grain of salt and just keep track of these two situations.

Me? I have a -suspicion- that there is an element of truth on the story. No, I have not had a chance to corroborate the story independently.

^I do not believe for one minute, that ey won't be on that field for the first training camp practice. I agree with RiC, that there might be some ounce of truth about ey.

Will nagging injuries slow him down like in the OTAs and Mini-Camp? Believing that is not out of the blue. If it was happening without full pads, it could certainly keep happening in hotter weather with full pads.

Will his salary come into play? I am sure that Mike will treat ey with dignity with the salary issue. If he doesn't want to pay a 2nd string TE that kind of money, I bet that Shanny will sit face to face and tell him and give him his options.

ey said that he would take a pay cut, so I do not think that pay is an issue.

ey will be on the field for training camp and give everything he has to make this team. I think that we can bank on that happening.

Hankerson? I think everybody, including those who know best, don't know yet.

ATX_Skins wrote:Why so many on here are infatuated with ey is beyond me. He was a glimmer of hope in what could be considered this teams darkest days. (also see: Lavar Arrington).

Only an outsider wouldn't be able to comprehend the love people have for ey.[/quote]

You mad bro?

If you are calling me an outsider you'd better do it in smack. If not, feel free to confess your man love for an unproductive injury prone fan lollipop here.

Either way, I am kinda tired of you taking cheap shots.

I don't mind going against the grain on this topic, I call it how I see it and I am calling you out as well. See you in smack

ATX_Skins wrote:If you are calling me an outsider you'd better do it in smack. If not, feel free to confess your man love for an unproductive injury prone fan lollipop here.

Like I said, only an outsider wouldn't be able to comprehend how the fan base feels about Chris ey.

An outsider would talk about one of the only bright spots of this franchise during it's darkest hours in the manner that you have.

A fan can believe that he's in the twilight of his career and that it may be time to move on.

There are no cheapshots, it is what it is. What's funny is, you've taken this extreme stance based off of a rumor and now you feel like you have to blindly defend it.

ATX_Skins wrote:feel free to confess your man love for an unproductive injury prone fan lollipop here.

I'll confess my man-love for ey. I might even give you injury prone, though that's a stretch, as he's had only two injuries in his career that have kept him off the field (granted, they have been recent). But unproductive? You just lost any credibility your argument had.

Deadskins wrote:I'll confess my man-love for ey. I might even give you injury prone, though that's a stretch, as he's had only two injuries in his career that have kept him off the field (granted, they have been recent).

in the month of July I think I've agreed with DS about 95% of the time

can someone just punch me to make sure i'm really awake!?!?

langleyparkjoe wrote:in the month of July I think I've agreed with DS about 95% of the time

can someone just punch me to make sure i'm really awake!?!?

That would explain why the percentage is so low.

Deadskins wrote:

ATX_Skins wrote:feel free to confess your man love for an unproductive injury prone fan lollipop here.

I'll confess my man-love for ey. I might even give you injury prone, though that's a stretch, as he's had only two injuries in his career that have kept him off the field (granted, they have been recent). But unproductive? You just lost any credibility your argument had.

summed it up pretty damn well right thurr!!

as for Hanktime- I get the feeling that HE thinks he has done everything to prepare himself for next week and BELIEVES he is ready. Now its up to the coaches and trainers to judge his rehabilitation taking into consideration of further injury to decide if he is infact 100% READY. until next week as Red1 has said no one knows.

anything else?

Tarik El-Bashir, Redskins Insider, csnwashingotn.com:

‘Captain Chaos’ set for a comeback?

Chris ey says the problematic left knee that cut short his season a year ago is completely healthy. But the 30-year-old fan favorite costs $6.23 million against the salary cap and will face stiff competition from converted wide receiver Niles Paul for playing time behind starter Fred Davis. To beat out Paul, ey must prove that he’s regained his (modest) speed and is the better blocker.

Tarik definitely hasn't heard any rumors that ey won't be on that field on the first day of training camp. ey will be on that field on the first day.

http://www.csnwashington.com/football-w ... edID=10316

With training camp at hand, Redskins prepare to sort through tight end options

We will see ...

I think Davis is taking over and not looking back. What we saw from ey even when he was relatively healthy during either of the last two seasons was not great. Personally I think the concussion has taken the wind out of his sails, something I can't blame him for. We'd probably have been best off trading him 2 years ago but it's obviously too late now. Worth keeping on the roster to see if he can revive his career, but again I have little expectation that he will.

With Davis only signing a one year deal, I don't see him as taking over just yet. I think we have to wait and see how this season plays out.