Red_One43 wrote:Who knows the mind of Shanny? Right or wrong, he will go after the guy that he thinks is the right fit and that is not necessarily the guy that the media thinks that he should take.
I don't "know" his mind, but I'm not exactly terribly enthusiastic about what I've seen from it so far.
um DUH.... Grossman is a backup on some rosters 3rd string QB on any other team in the NFL... Beck is 3rd string on some teams and not even on other teams rosters.
RedskinsRule56 wrote:um DUH.... Grossman is a backup on some rosters 3rd string QB on any other team in the NFL... Beck is 3rd string on some teams and not even on other teams rosters.
I'm taking this as a back-handed compliment on the choice of the Redskins' QB by an OBVIOUS NON Redskins fan
btw - slightly off topic - when do you finally come out & declare that, despite having tickets, you are NOT a REAL Redskins' fan?
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
RR56 - at this time I think that Grossman is better suited for this offense
I like what we have seen from Beck but I'm not sure that he's as good as Mike seems to think he is - I also do not think he's a terrible QB like you do
We have a BIG issue at the QB position but that will be addressd by Mike & Bruce as soon as they can - NOT before
btw - what the hell do you care - you don't want this team to do well
I refuse to believe a fan of a team can want them to lose ANY game
You are not a REAL fan of the Washington Redskins - NO WAY
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
I love to have posters like this - they make most of the fans here look like they know what they are 'talking' about
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
I think we as fans who were hoping that Beck would start, were hoping that he would be a savior. Like we were rooting for the unknown, because the known is very average. Beck presented a hope that he would turn out to be this gem of a QB and lead us into the future, and that may still happen, but as for me, I feel a bit deflated, because I just got run over by the reality truck
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Red_One43 wrote:Does anyone think that Beck might see a little action in the game to run certain plays like those bootlegs?
No. Unless Rex plays terribly he should be the guy if he has been named the starter. Nothing good comes from switching qb's in and out. This isn't college football.
Ok, you added the "in and out." The words were "inserted into the game to run certain plays like bootlegs."
Now, as far as what is or isn't college football, surely you have seen NFL QBs inserted to run the wildcat or QBs inserted because they were called "Slash" and could run certain plays that he starter couldn't run as well or at all. The NFL is a game of packages.
Yea, but I've never ever seen a qb inserted into games in order to run bootlegs. It makes no sense at all.
chiefhog44 wrote:I think we as fans who were hoping that Beck would start, were hoping that he would be a savior. Like we were rooting for the unknown, because the known is very average. Beck presented a hope that he would turn out to be this gem of a QB and lead us into the future, and that may still happen, but as for me, I feel a bit deflated, because I just got run over by the reality truck
Exactly. All this talk of people "trusting" Beck more than Rex is nonsense. What has Beck done? The fact is that he was outplayed by Rex in the preseason and based on his play he does not deserve to start. Our qb situation is a borderline joke but Grossman probably gives us the best chance to win. At the very least he knows the offense and has actual game experience.
I agree with Canes - Mike & Kyle will only use the 1 QB
I doubt that Kyle goes with new formations like those that might take advantage of Beck's mobility - if they do that they'll bring in someone else
IF Beck's mobility is going to help the offense then he'll be the starter
We know what we have in Grossman - if he does not make it we'll get to see Beck
All we really know about Beck is that Mike & Kyle seem to think he can handle the QB position
we're going to see a lot more running than passing this weekend
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:we're going to see a lot more running than passing this weekend
Yep, and a one dimensional offense is much easier to stop than a two dimensional one.
This isn't a one dimensional offense by any means. The offense is predicated on RUNNING THE BALL in the first place. We aren't the Colts, we don't pass to clear the running lanes. We run to open the passing game. So hopefully we are running a lot and it's effective. That means the PA Bootleg will be effective. That means, there will be less defenders in space and open WR's. #shrug I hope we do run a lot.
we're going to see a lot more running than passing this weekend
That would make the most sense, but Kyle seems to really trust Rex. I was just looking back at Rex's stats from last season and in his three starts at the end of the year he attempted 43, 39, and 44 passes. Obviously our running game should be better this season so we'll likely rely on it more, but I think that Rex will end up attempting somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 passes on Sunday. I'm hoping for a pretty even 50/50 run/pass ratio.
this game will be won the "old fashioned way" - we need to be able to run when we want to and by stopping their run game we make Eli put the ball into the air - we increase our chances of him doing what he does well = making mistakes and making bad decisions
I don't expect us to have great run defense, just good run defense will do
our defense needs to give our offense some turnovers with a short field
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
SkinsJock wrote:our defense needs to give our offense some turnovers with a short field
I'm not worried about that. This defense has done that in the past, they even did it last year when they were ranked dead near last. It's the offenses inability to do jack-squat with those turnovers that worries me more.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Chris Luva Luva wrote:This isn't a one dimensional offense by any means. The offense is predicated on RUNNING THE BALL in the first place. We aren't the Colts, we don't pass to clear the running lanes. We run to open the passing game. So hopefully we are running a lot and it's effective. That means the PA Bootleg will be effective. That means, there will be less defenders in space and open WR's. #shrug I hope we do run a lot.
Running the ball is great, and infinitely safer than putting it in the hands of Sexi Rexi, but when the other team knows that's all they have to defend it makes it much easier to stop.
From what I've seen in the preseason, I'M a more mobile QB than Grossman is, so I doubt you're going to see a lot of that PA Bootleg on Sunday. A lot of PA, definitely. The bootleg, not so much. I just have ZERO confidence in Rex Grossman and it's going to take a string of solid, if not spectacular performances to change my mind on him.
Not trilled about the choice and not thrilled about the alternative either. Itwas a close call, which did not win overwhelmingly the position. It could have gone either way.
Nobody expects a playoff run. This is a growth year.
andyjens89 wrote:If the run game is successful, the line can protect, and receivers get open, it won't matter who is the QB.
Too bad that all of those three requirements above did not come through last year for us. We need a QB who can make plays when one or several of those units do not get the job done consistently. A care-taker QB to "manage" a good and well established offense is one thing. It is quite another to have a care-taker who is not a play maker.
Wedonot have the positions and depth in place for a deep run at the playoffs. We are not there yet. We are a few players away from winning consistently and the QB position is perhapsthe most important among them. No matter, this team has become younger and it is much better this season. They will give us some good games. Progress in the right direction.
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Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
Redskin in Canada wrote:Nobody expects a playoff run.
I do.
We'll go 16-0 as you will see in my Hognostications.
I forgot to reconcile the two threads.
Daniel Snyder has defined incompetence, failure and greed to true Washington Redskins fans for over a decade and a half. Stay away from football operations !!!
