Rex: "We will win the NFC EAST!"

[jeremyroyce]

Guys, I'm going to just say my opinion one last time on this issue and then I won't talk about it on this board until this season is over. This team is a 4-12 team. And when the regular season rolls around you will start seeing the things I saw where I was not impressed with this team because the Redskins will be exposed. There are a lot of things that have happened for me to come to this conclusion including the first preseason game. Now, if I am wrong I will create a new thread saying that I was wrong and I will apologize for not having any faith in this team.

[Red_One43]

Guys, I'm going to just say my opinion one last time on this issue and then I won't talk about it on this board until this season is over. This team is a 4-12 team. And when the regular season rolls around you will start seeing the things I saw where I was not impressed with this team because the Redskins will be exposed. There are a lot of things that have happened for me to come to this conclusion including the first preseason game. Now, if I am wrong I will create a new thread saying that I was wrong and I will apologize for not having any faith in this team.

things I saw

lot of things

What did you see?
What things?

Every fan is entitled to their opinions. Fans on this site diasgree all the time, but if you don't provide support for your opinions, then several folks will challenge you. Example of support - the Skins have only been practicing together as a team since August 4th. The first game was August 12th. There were no OTA's. Several starters are new. Odds were that the Redskins would come out last night making several mental errors like false starts. We saw none. Odds are there would be several penalties - only three. We saw a line that was considered extremely weak, push around Casey Hampton and company. This gives us reason that the Redskins are making progress and will continue to make progress thtoughout camp. Not one person on this site said we are going to the Super Bowl because of what we saw last night. You say 4-12 - what did you see in a team with only a weeks work together?

[jeremyroyce]

Guys, I'm going to just say my opinion one last time on this issue and then I won't talk about it on this board until this season is over. This team is a 4-12 team. And when the regular season rolls around you will start seeing the things I saw where I was not impressed with this team because the Redskins will be exposed. There are a lot of things that have happened for me to come to this conclusion including the first preseason game. Now, if I am wrong I will create a new thread saying that I was wrong and I will apologize for not having any faith in this team.

things I saw

lot of things

What did you see?
What things?

Every fan is entitled to their opinions. Fans on this site diasgree all the time, but if you don't provide support for your opinions, then several folks will challenge you. Example of support - the Skins have only been practicing together as a team since August 4th. The first game was August 12th. There were no OTA's. Several starters are new. Odds were that the Redskins would come out last night making several mental errors like false starts. We saw none. Odds are there would be several penalties - only three. We saw a line that was considered extremely weak, push around Casey Hampton and company. This gives us reason that the Redskins are making progress and will continue to make progress thtoughout camp. Not one person on this site said we are going to the Super Bowl because of what we saw last night. You say 4-12 - what did you see in a team with only a weeks work together?

I'm not going to comment on this anymore. People are entitled to challenge me whenever they want . It's not just what I saw in the preseason game. If you take a look at what I posted earlier in this thread you will get a little glimpse of my opinion. When the season rolls around you will see.

[Red_One43]

Guys, I'm going to just say my opinion one last time on this issue and then I won't talk about it on this board until this season is over. This team is a 4-12 team. And when the regular season rolls around you will start seeing the things I saw where I was not impressed with this team because the Redskins will be exposed. There are a lot of things that have happened for me to come to this conclusion including the first preseason game. Now, if I am wrong I will create a new thread saying that I was wrong and I will apologize for not having any faith in this team.

things I saw

lot of things

What did you see?
What things?

Every fan is entitled to their opinions. Fans on this site diasgree all the time, but if you don't provide support for your opinions, then several folks will challenge you. Example of support - the Skins have only been practicing together as a team since August 4th. The first game was August 12th. There were no OTA's. Several starters are new. Odds were that the Redskins would come out last night making several mental errors like false starts. We saw none. Odds are there would be several penalties - only three. We saw a line that was considered extremely weak, push around Casey Hampton and company. This gives us reason that the Redskins are making progress and will continue to make progress thtoughout camp. Not one person on this site said we are going to the Super Bowl because of what we saw last night. You say 4-12 - what did you see in a team with only a weeks work together?

I'm not going to comment on this anymore. People are entitled to challenge me whenever they want . It's not just what I saw in the preseason game. If you take a look at what I posted earlier in this thread you will get a little glimpse of my opinion. When the season rolls around you will see.

The only things I see that you posted on this thread

No, he should keep his mouth closed. Then another statement elaborarting on that.

I now understand why McNabb played horribly and when the Redskins start losing games the players aren't gonna have confidence in Grossman or Beck for that fact

It's obvious that you do not like Grossman

Dude, no tone has been set for the season. This is one game and we did NOTHING until their second unit came in. Yeah, I know that we started at our 1 yard line but we did Nothing with it. Our first touchdown was when they brought out their scrubs. Sure we may have gotten 452 yards but we had only 16 points, and had this been a regular season game we would have lost this game. I'm sorry but as long as we have a collection of 2nd and 3rd stringers trying to be like a starting QB and Mike Shanahan is running this team, I have no faith that we will do anything period

Steeler's Coach Tomlin sums it up this way:

"We got outplayed in just about all areas – blocking, tackling, running, throwing, kicking. That team was better prepared tonight than us, and they showed it. We accept that ..."

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/ ... c757558edf

Why can't you accept that that the Redskins outplayed the Steelers in all areas? Tomlin can.

I'm sorry but as long as we have a collection of 2nd and 3rd stringers trying to be like a starting QB and Mike Shanahan is running this team, I have no faith that we will do anything period

Requoted this last sentence of your above quote because this one tells it all about what you saw in the game - You don't like Grossman, Beck and Shanahan. So in other words, until these guys are gone, you will always dwell on the negative. That clears it up.

However, as a team I was not impressed.

Why weren't you impressed with the team? Where's the substance? Oh, yeah, you don't like ...

had that ball been caught we would have given up a TD because our Corner and Safety got burned on that play. And another play same thing with Leftwich he overthrew his receiver and that would have been a TD.

Hmm sounds like Ben and Byron can use some pointers from Grossman on how to hit open receivers.
I can assure you that the Redskin coaches are seeing those two passes as scores and noted that on the grade of those two corners.

Oh, wow, now that's really impressive. How many points did this offense score against their first team defense?

How many points did the Steelers score against our first team defense? Would've/Could've points don't count unless you do it both ways for the entire game such as Banks would've/could've scored a TD if Suisham hadn't got in his way.

That FG should have been made. My point is that we moved the ball down the field but we got no touchdown out of it. Not just that first drive but our first unit offense was in the game the first half and we scored what 7 points?

This is a pre-season game right? Vanilla offense. No game planning. We put up 40+ on the Bills last year in the opening pre-season game - points (first team or not) are not an indicator of success or failure in a pre-season game.

It's not just what I saw in the preseason game. If you take a look at what I posted earlier in this thread you will get a little glimpse of my opinion. When the season rolls around you will see.

I looked at all your posts on this thread. You are right about it is not just what you saw in the preseason game (You still haven't told us what you did except points not being scored and incomplete bombs - I think every on this board will agree that we need to get better at finsihing drives and Hall needs to cover better. The other bomb Wilson's way - was that Horton or Wilson's responsibility - By the Way - Horton is not a starter for us either.)

I see what you base your opinion on - you don't like Grossman, Beck or Shanahan, so no matter how much positive is in a pre-season game, you will focus on the negative.

Coach Mike Tomlin agrees with what we fans saw - A Redskin team that was better prepared than his Steelers. It has been a long time since we have seen that in any type of game. Being better prepared for a game sets a tone. This was game one. It is something to build on for game two. Joe Gibbs was 0-4 in preseason games one year we won the Super Bowl. It is nice to win them, but that is not what they are played for otherwise the score would count. Suggestion - stop putting so much stock in preseason scores.

[jr_uscg]

I work in Arlington and pretty much everyone in the office is a Skins fan. Just like on this sight, my office colleagues are very negative this year. I'm not saying everyone, but I've been coming here for almost ten years and this year is the worst. Is it because Snyder doesn't have his hand in the cookie jar? I think we went out and picked up some great talent! We should have won at least nine games last year, if Gano was on. I think we have improved since last year. But I'm sure everyone will jump on the band wagon when we win a few games. Have faith people, let Coach Shanahan and Bruce Smith do their job.

[jeremyroyce]

Guys, I'm going to just say my opinion one last time on this issue and then I won't talk about it on this board until this season is over. This team is a 4-12 team. And when the regular season rolls around you will start seeing the things I saw where I was not impressed with this team because the Redskins will be exposed. There are a lot of things that have happened for me to come to this conclusion including the first preseason game. Now, if I am wrong I will create a new thread saying that I was wrong and I will apologize for not having any faith in this team.

things I saw

lot of things

What did you see?
What things?

Every fan is entitled to their opinions. Fans on this site diasgree all the time, but if you don't provide support for your opinions, then several folks will challenge you. Example of support - the Skins have only been practicing together as a team since August 4th. The first game was August 12th. There were no OTA's. Several starters are new. Odds were that the Redskins would come out last night making several mental errors like false starts. We saw none. Odds are there would be several penalties - only three. We saw a line that was considered extremely weak, push around Casey Hampton and company. This gives us reason that the Redskins are making progress and will continue to make progress thtoughout camp. Not one person on this site said we are going to the Super Bowl because of what we saw last night. You say 4-12 - what did you see in a team with only a weeks work together?

I'm not going to comment on this anymore. People are entitled to challenge me whenever they want . It's not just what I saw in the preseason game. If you take a look at what I posted earlier in this thread you will get a little glimpse of my opinion. When the season rolls around you will see.

The only things I see that you posted on this thread

No, he should keep his mouth closed. Then another statement elaborarting on that.

I now understand why McNabb played horribly and when the Redskins start losing games the players aren't gonna have confidence in Grossman or Beck for that fact

It's obvious that you do not like Grossman

Dude, no tone has been set for the season. This is one game and we did NOTHING until their second unit came in. Yeah, I know that we started at our 1 yard line but we did Nothing with it. Our first touchdown was when they brought out their scrubs. Sure we may have gotten 452 yards but we had only 16 points, and had this been a regular season game we would have lost this game. I'm sorry but as long as we have a collection of 2nd and 3rd stringers trying to be like a starting QB and Mike Shanahan is running this team, I have no faith that we will do anything period

Steeler's Coach Tomlin sums it up this way:

"We got outplayed in just about all areas – blocking, tackling, running, throwing, kicking. That team was better prepared tonight than us, and they showed it. We accept that ..."

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/ ... c757558edf

Why can't you accept that that the Redskins outplayed the Steelers in all areas? Tomlin can.

I'm sorry but as long as we have a collection of 2nd and 3rd stringers trying to be like a starting QB and Mike Shanahan is running this team, I have no faith that we will do anything period

Requoted this last sentence of your above quote because this one tells it all about what you saw in the game - You don't like Grossman, Beck and Shanahan. So in other words, until these guys are gone, you will always dwell on the negative. That clears it up.

However, as a team I was not impressed.

Why weren't you impressed with the team? Where's the substance? Oh, yeah, you don't like ...

had that ball been caught we would have given up a TD because our Corner and Safety got burned on that play. And another play same thing with Leftwich he overthrew his receiver and that would have been a TD.

Hmm sounds like Ben and Byron can use some pointers from Grossman on how to hit open receivers.
I can assure you that the Redskin coaches are seeing those two passes as scores and noted that on the grade of those two corners.

Oh, wow, now that's really impressive. How many points did this offense score against their first team defense?

How many points did the Steelers score against our first team defense? Would've/Could've points don't count unless you do it both ways for the entire game such as Banks would've/could've scored a TD if Suisham hadn't got in his way.

That FG should have been made. My point is that we moved the ball down the field but we got no touchdown out of it. Not just that first drive but our first unit offense was in the game the first half and we scored what 7 points?

This is a pre-season game right? Vanilla offense. No game planning. We put up 40+ on the Bills last year in the opening pre-season game - points (first team or not) are not an indicator of success or failure in a pre-season game.

It's not just what I saw in the preseason game. If you take a look at what I posted earlier in this thread you will get a little glimpse of my opinion. When the season rolls around you will see.

I looked at all your posts on this thread. You are right about it is not just what you saw in the preseason game (You still haven't told us what you did except points not being scored and incomplete bombs - I think every on this board will agree that we need to get better at finsihing drives and Hall needs to cover better. The other bomb Wilson's way - was that Horton or Wilson's responsibility - By the Way - Horton is not a starter for us either.)

I see what you base your opinion on - you don't like Grossman, Beck or Shanahan, so no matter how much positive is in a pre-season game, you will focus on the negative.

Coach Mike Tomlin agrees with what we fans saw - A Redskin team that was better prepared than his Steelers. It has been a long time since we have seen that in any type of game. Being better prepared for a game sets a tone. This was game one. It is something to build on for game two. Joe Gibbs was 0-4 in preseason games one year we won the Super Bowl. It is nice to win them, but that is not what they are played for otherwise the score would count. Suggestion - stop putting so much stock in preseason scores.

I will address the QB situation. It's not that I don't like Beck or Grossman but they are what they are 2nd and 3rd string back ups. We need a QB that can lead this team and right now the QB situation is a huge weakness on this team. Look, I don't want this team to be 4-12, I want this team to win the Superbowl and be a dynasty I'm just being honest on how I feel about this team. No, I'm not going to just dwell on the negative, but I ain't gonna sugar coat it either. I was impressed with certain players, but as a team I know too much and let just say that I will keep it a secret and let y'all see for yourselves. I ain't gonna talk anymore about this subject until this season is over, so from here on out I will not be reading anybodies comments. And I will repeat that if I am wrong and the Redskins prove me wrong I will be the first to admit that I was wrong and I will create a thread saying that I was wrong and apologizing that I was wrong, however I know that it won't come to that. Get your popcorn boys, it's gonna be a long season.

[Countertrey]

Drama is good. Secrets are better. LOL

[KazooSkinsFan]

Drama is good

He is, but Turtle's my personal favorite...

[Countertrey]

Drama and Turtle at the Dog Park... smokin'

[SkinsJock]

The latest reports from out of Redskins Park is that Beck is still THE starting QB and that has not changed

Rex needs to step it up and not make such over the top comments
CONFIDENCE is a good thing - Quiet confidence is priceless

HOPEFULLY this offense can make some more progress and we can begin to speculate on making the playoffs next season

[The Hogster]

This John Beck is the Starter stuff is media hype. Until Mike Shanahan declares one of them the starter, it is what it is, a competition.

Check the facts, Shanahan has never said who the starter is. Both Rex & Beck will take reps with the first team in practice. That doesn't prove one way or the other who is going to start. I'll wait for Mike S. to weigh in before believing what Jason Reid says.

[oneman56]

The latest reports from out of Redskins Park is that Beck is still THE starting QB and that has not changed

Rex needs to step it up and not make such over the top comments
CONFIDENCE is a good thing - Quiet confidence is priceless

HOPEFULLY this offense can make some more progress and we can begin to speculate on making the playoffs next season

He said the same thing about Bubby Brister years ago and then switched at the last second and started Griese week 1 here in Denver. I'm not going to read into this too much, 3 more pre-season games to go.

[SkinsJock]

Rex Grossman is starting the first regular season game and looking to win the NFC East

John Beck thinks that the starting QB job is his to lose



a little while ago we did not have a 'starting' QB and now we have 2

LIFE IS GOOD

[KazooSkinsFan]

LIFE IS GOOD

Yes it is. I just wish our two starting quarterbacks were...

[SkinsJock]

LIFE IS GOOD

Yes it is. I just wish our two starting quarterbacks were...

don't tell them - they both are feeling very confident right now

[1niksder]

LIFE IS GOOD

Yes it is. I just wish our two starting quarterbacks were...

don't tell them - they both are feeling very confident right now

Two starting Quarterbacks? How does that work in the ZBS

[SkinsJock]

LIFE IS GOOD

Yes it is. I just wish our two starting quarterbacks were...

don't tell them - they both are feeling very confident right now

Two starting Quarterbacks? How does that work in the ZBS

I think we're about to find out

Maybe Kyle has a plan to use both and thus further confuse the defense

[1niksder]

I think we're about to find out

Maybe Kyle has a plan to use both and thus further confuse the defense

If not then one of them will be called


a backup... AGAIN

What if Kellen Clemens win the spot?


Would both of the starting QBs be Backups?

[yupchagee]

LIFE IS GOOD

Yes it is. I just wish our two starting quarterbacks were...

don't tell them - they both are feeling very confident right now

Two starting Quarterbacks? How does that work in the ZBS

I think we're about to find out

Maybe Kyle has a plan to use both and thus further confuse the defense

Just think of all the possible option plays we could run

[BearSkins]

Jay Cutler has not performed as well in Chicago as he did in Denver.t

Chicago Bears 2010 - NFC North Champs.

Yet... Jay Cutler has not performed a well in Chicago as he did in Denver... Don't miss Bob's point. Good enough is not the same as really good.

Consider the (lack of) o-line and the (lacking) WR corps he was/is working with in Chicago and it could be argued that winning the NFC North (which featured the Superbowl champs) eclipses anything he did in Denver.

Anyway, not to hijack the thread