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markshark84 wrote:I also don't understand the entire "potential" thing. He is a WR. It should take very long to catch on as a WR. Sure, first year numbers aren't particularly good for most rookie WRs, but you typically know by their 8th game what they are made of.

Exactly. By the third year when what you have is "potential" it means You're going to be drawing an unemployment check....

Irn-Bru wrote:

Mississippi Hog wrote:Just saw this on cbssports.com about DT. DT was not cut b/c he stinks.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/WAS

WR Devin Thomas was released Saturday because of his approach. "He's got the talent, he sure does, but he's going to have to commit to being a pro," coach Mike Shanahan said. "I talked to Devin many times and told him what he needed to do to be a pro player."

I was worried that was the problem. Things didn't look too good for Kelley either . . . I hope he learns from Thomas's experience and comes back ready to play.

Good riddance. There have been tons of people with wasted talent in this league. Hit the street and get a real job Thomas. You may check how good you might have had it if you had made a commitment to become a PRO in the NFL.

When the base, rock-bottom-of-the-pit salary is something some of us can only dream about, this guy had a chance to make over a million every year.

How can one understand this type of attitude? Do they need jail time instead of a disciplined upbringing to make them understand? Maybe it was too late for his parents to instill discipline, maybe too late for his NCAA coaches, it certainly was for Shanny.

Great EXAMPLE to the rest of the roster and future players. This cut sends the RIGHT message around the NFL. I could not be happier.

Some of you who thought this guy MIGHT do something with that attitude are daydreaming.

I hope he understands and learns from this experience as a person. But as a Skins fan, I could care less if he does or not. Thanks for nothing DT. See ya ... or not.

Redskin in Canada wrote:Good riddance. There have been tons of people with wasted talent in this league. Hit the street and get a real job Thomas. You may check how good you might have had it if you had made a commitment to become a PRO in the NFL.

When the base, rock-bottom-of-the-pit salary is something some of us can only dream about, this guy had a chance to make over a million every year.

How can one understand this type of attitude? Do they need jail time instead of a disciplined upbringing to make them understand. Maybe it was too late for his parents to instill discipline, maybe too late for his NCAA coaches, it certainly was for Shanny.

Great EXAMPLE to the rest of the roster and future players. This cut sends the RIGHT message around the NFL. I could not be happier.

Some of you who thought this guy MIGHT do something with that attitude are daydreaming.

I hope he understands and learns from this experience as a person. But as a Skins fan, I could care less if he does or not. Thanks for nothing DT. See ya ... or better not.

Here, here. If he does get serious and catch on somewhere it doesn't make this any less the right move. Despite getting some return yardage that was all we were getting and Banks showed why we were comfortable making that move...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redski ... nahan.html

At times during practice, Shanahan admonished Thomas for thumping his chest after a big play or boasting to defensive backs he beat, said multiple people who observed them interact during practice throughout the offseason and preseason.

I can see how this can get old pretty fast.

SAP_Pete wrote:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/devin-thomas-and-mike-shanahan.html

At times during practice, Shanahan admonished Thomas for thumping his chest after a big play or boasting to defensive backs he beat, said multiple people who observed them interact during practice throughout the offseason and preseason.

I can see how this can get old pretty fast.

So it wasn't that he didn't have the talent, it's that he didn't like his attitude.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

SAP_Pete wrote:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/devin-thomas-and-mike-shanahan.html

At times during practice, Shanahan admonished Thomas for thumping his chest after a big play or boasting to defensive backs he beat, said multiple people who observed them interact during practice throughout the offseason and preseason.

I can see how this can get old pretty fast.

So it wasn't that he didn't have the talent, it's that he didn't like his attitude.

It says during the off and pre-seasons. That's different from the regular season. Maybe he wasn't beating anyone who actually made the team.

VetSkinsFan wrote:So it wasn't that he didn't have the talent, it's that he didn't like his attitude.

Sounds like he didn't have the work ethic, either. Bad attitude, bad work ethic . . . then it's goodbye, according to Shanahan. Doesn't matter whether you're a marginal WR waiting to prove yourself of the Skins biggest free agent acquisition.

SAP_Pete wrote:http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/devin-thomas/devin-thomas-and-mike-shanahan.html

At times during practice, Shanahan admonished Thomas for thumping his chest after a big play or boasting to defensive backs he beat, said multiple people who observed them interact during practice throughout the offseason and preseason.

I can see how this can get old pretty fast.

The more we hear about this guy, the clearer it is that he was doing all of the wrong things. Thomas's own reaction to his being released said it all, IMHO.

And we don't even know the full story.

The Panthers just signed him.

http://theredzone.org/BlogDescription/t ... fault.aspx

jeremyroyce wrote:The Panthers just signed him.

http://theredzone.org/BlogDescription/t ... fault.aspx

I hope he puts up serious numbers. Coaches can always stand to have a few of their choices proven incorrect. It helps check the ego.

I'm not so much mad that we cut Devin. The prior staff didn't think that much of him either. But, I can't see how Roydell Williams gives us more than Devin could have.

They must REALLY think highly of Malcolm Kelly. I guess he stays awake in meetings.

Guess it's easier to teach mediocre people that are listening than good people who think they know it all.

If he gets his head on straight, he'll be a force in this league. Sadly it took this to wake him up a bit.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:If he gets his head on straight, he'll be a force in this league. Sadly it took this to wake him up a bit.

You're assuming that he's awake now, I guess.

Champsturf wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:If he gets his head on straight, he'll be a force in this league. Sadly it took this to wake him up a bit.

You're assuming that he's awake now, I guess.

How many times did it take Brandon Lloyd? Yeah... seems like he finally got it...

I don't see any evidence that Thomas gets it.

Maybe he will. He has the physical tools... not sure he has the head, though.

Heard on Monday Night Countdown that Carolina picked him up off waivers.

Why not? low cost... solid upside if they can adjust his head.

Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

Deadskins wrote:Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

Carolina is desperate. Devin is going into a franchise looking at the bottom of the standings this year. Possibly new coaching staff next year.

Very unlikely that this guy gets his head straight indeed. The worst enemy of anybody is an overgrown EGO in general, and this is particularly more negative when the person has very little to back it up with.

A 7th pick??? You miss the point !!! The point is: we think you, DT, are WORTHLESS.

The message to EVERYBODY in the team and the NFL is:

There is a system and discipline in Washington NOW. You either give your best and play as a team member contributing your best, or we dump you to the garbage can !!!

So, whether you are FAT AL or Devin Thomas or ... anybody really ... you shape up and play your best or you have no space in this roster. This is the right kind of work ethic that attracts players with CHARACTER to want to come an play in Washington.

It has taken and it might still take a while to exorcise the demons (and undo the cancer) accumulated under Vinny. Few people really knew how bad a shape we were in last year and how lucky we were to get 4 wins. How stupid does it look to have picked Thomas and Kelly instead of somebody else in that draft a couple of years ago??? You name the player, even a Philthy WR if you wish, who could have effectively helped ... Alternatively, we could have picked also an offensive lineman -and- another position of need.

This team is going in the right direction.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

Carolina is desperate. Devin is going into a franchise looking at the bottom of the standings this year. Possibly new coaching staff next year.

Very unlikely that this guy gets his head straight indeed. The worst enemy of anybody is an overgrown EGO in general, and this is particularly more negative when the person has very little to back it up with.

A 7th pick??? You miss the point !!! The point is: we think you, DT, are WORTHLESS.

The message to EVERYBODY in the team and the NFL is:

There is a system and discipline in Washington NOW. You either give your best and play as a team member contributing your best, or we dump you to the garbage can !!!

So, whether you are FAT AL or Devin Thomas or ... anybody really ... you shape up and play your best or you have no space in this roster. This is the right kind of work ethic that attracts players with CHARACTER to want to come an play in Washington.

It has taken and it might still take a while to exorcise the demons (and undo the cancer) accumulated under Vinny. Few people really knew how bad a shape we were in last year and how lucky we were to get 4 wins. How stupid does it look to have picked Thomas and Kelly instead of somebody else in that draft a couple of years ago??? You name the player, even a Philthy WR if you wish, who could have effectively helped ... Alternatively, we could have picked also an offensive lineman -and- another position of need.

This team is going in the right direction.

Give it a rest, RiC, I'm firmly on the bandwagon. I was just musing that I wished we could have gotten some value for a former 2nd round pick, especially if the Panthers are making a waiver claim for him.

Deadskins wrote:Give it a rest, RiC, I'm firmly on the bandwagon. I was just musing that I wished we could have gotten some value for a former 2nd round pick, especially if the Panthers are making a waiver claim for him.

True. But I had a bad week in the Hognostications .... again ... and I am in a disciplinarian mood.

Deadskins wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

Carolina is desperate. Devin is going into a franchise looking at the bottom of the standings this year. Possibly new coaching staff next year.

Very unlikely that this guy gets his head straight indeed. The worst enemy of anybody is an overgrown EGO in general, and this is particularly more negative when the person has very little to back it up with.

A 7th pick??? You miss the point !!! The point is: we think you, DT, are WORTHLESS.

The message to EVERYBODY in the team and the NFL is:

There is a system and discipline in Washington NOW. You either give your best and play as a team member contributing your best, or we dump you to the garbage can !!!

So, whether you are FAT AL or Devin Thomas or ... anybody really ... you shape up and play your best or you have no space in this roster. This is the right kind of work ethic that attracts players with CHARACTER to want to come an play in Washington.

It has taken and it might still take a while to exorcise the demons (and undo the cancer) accumulated under Vinny. Few people really knew how bad a shape we were in last year and how lucky we were to get 4 wins. How stupid does it look to have picked Thomas and Kelly instead of somebody else in that draft a couple of years ago??? You name the player, even a Philthy WR if you wish, who could have effectively helped ... Alternatively, we could have picked also an offensive lineman -and- another position of need.

This team is going in the right direction.

Give it a rest, RiC, I'm firmly on the bandwagon. I was just musing that I wished we could have gotten some value for a former 2nd round pick, especially if the Panthers are making a waiver claim for him.

Why would the Panthers give up a draft pick when they were probably very high on the waiver list. Wait until he is cut and claim him so he can't go to another team.

I hope they have a year and a half to invest in him. Because that is how long it seems it takes for him to learn a system.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

Carolina is desperate. Devin is going into a franchise looking at the bottom of the standings this year. Possibly new coaching staff next year.

Very unlikely that this guy gets his head straight indeed. The worst enemy of anybody is an overgrown EGO in general, and this is particularly more negative when the person has very little to back it up with.

A 7th pick??? You miss the point !!! The point is: we think you, DT, are WORTHLESS.

The message to EVERYBODY in the team and the NFL is:

There is a system and discipline in Washington NOW. You either give your best and play as a team member contributing your best, or we dump you to the garbage can !!!

So, whether you are FAT AL or Devin Thomas or ... anybody really ... you shape up and play your best or you have no space in this roster. This is the right kind of work ethic that attracts players with CHARACTER to want to come an play in Washington.

It has taken and it might still take a while to exorcise the demons (and undo the cancer) accumulated under Vinny. Few people really knew how bad a shape we were in last year and how lucky we were to get 4 wins. How stupid does it look to have picked Thomas and Kelly instead of somebody else in that draft a couple of years ago??? You name the player, even a Philthy WR if you wish, who could have effectively helped ... Alternatively, we could have picked also an offensive lineman -and- another position of need.

This team is going in the right direction.

Give it a rest, RiC, I'm firmly on the bandwagon. I was just musing that I wished we could have gotten some value for a former 2nd round pick, especially if the Panthers are making a waiver claim for him.

Why would the Panthers give up a draft pick when they were probably very high on the waiver list. Wait until he is cut and claim him so he can't go to another team.

I hope they have a year and a half to invest in him. Because that is how long it seems it takes for him to learn a system.

Because they couldn't have had any idea that we would cut him outright.

Deadskins wrote:Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

You're thinking that didn't occur to anybody and they didn't try that? Too bad they don't read message boards...

Deadskins wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

Carolina is desperate. Devin is going into a franchise looking at the bottom of the standings this year. Possibly new coaching staff next year.

Very unlikely that this guy gets his head straight indeed. The worst enemy of anybody is an overgrown EGO in general, and this is particularly more negative when the person has very little to back it up withwork.

A 7th pick??? You miss the point !!! The point is: we think you, DT, are WORTHLESS.

The message to EVERYBODY in the team and the NFL if:

There is a system and discipline in Washington NOW. You either give your best and play as a team member contributing your best, or we dump you to the garbage can !!!

So, whether you are FAT AL or Devin Thomas or ... anybody really ... you shape up and play your best or you have no space in this roster. This is the right kind of work ethic that attracts players with CHARACTER to want to come an play in Washington.

It has taken and it might still take a while to exorcise the demons (and undo the cancer) accumulated under Vinny. Few people really knew how bad a shape we were in last year and how lucky we were to get 4 wins. How stupid does it look to have picked Thomas and Kelly instead of somebody else in that draft a couple of years ago??? You name the player, even a Philthy WR if you wish, who could have effectively helped ... Alternatively, we could have picked also an offensive lineman -and- another position of need.

This team is going in the right direction.

Give it a rest, RiC, I'm firmly on the bandwagon. I was just musing that I wished we could have gotten some value for a former 2nd round pick, especially if the Panthers are making a waiver claim for him.

Why would the Panthers give up a draft pick when they were probably very high on the waiver list. Wait until he is cut and claim him so he can't go to another team.

I hope they have a year and a half to invest in him. Because that is how long it seems it takes for him to learn a system.

Because they couldn't have had any idea that we would cut him outright.

Really?

The scuttlebutt around the league for a couple of weeks was that the Skins were going to cut him!

Deadskins wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Seems like we could have gotten at least a 7th for him.

Carolina is desperate. Devin is going into a franchise looking at the bottom of the standings this year. Possibly new coaching staff next year.

Very unlikely that this guy gets his head straight indeed. The worst enemy of anybody is an overgrown EGO in general, and this is particularly more negative when the person has very little to back it up withwork.

A 7th pick??? You miss the point !!! The point is: we think you, DT, are WORTHLESS.

The message to EVERYBODY in the team and the NFL if:

There is a system and discipline in Washington NOW. You either give your best and play as a team member contributing your best, or we dump you to the garbage can !!!

So, whether you are FAT AL or Devin Thomas or ... anybody really ... you shape up and play your best or you have no space in this roster. This is the right kind of work ethic that attracts players with CHARACTER to want to come an play in Washington.

It has taken and it might still take a while to exorcise the demons (and undo the cancer) accumulated under Vinny. Few people really knew how bad a shape we were in last year and how lucky we were to get 4 wins. How stupid does it look to have picked Thomas and Kelly instead of somebody else in that draft a couple of years ago??? You name the player, even a Philthy WR if you wish, who could have effectively helped ... Alternatively, we could have picked also an offensive lineman -and- another position of need.

This team is going in the right direction.

Give it a rest, RiC, I'm firmly on the bandwagon. I was just musing that I wished we could have gotten some value for a former 2nd round pick, especially if the Panthers are making a waiver claim for him.

Why would the Panthers give up a draft pick when they were probably very high on the waiver list. Wait until he is cut and claim him so he can't go to another team.

I hope they have a year and a half to invest in him. Because that is how long it seems it takes for him to learn a system.

Because they couldn't have had any idea that we would cut him outright.

Really?

The scuttlebutt around the league for a couple of weeks was that the Skins were going to cut him!