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crazyhorse1 wrote:I like McNabb quite a bit, but it was absurd he was named player of the game yesterday. He was awful-- interception, throwing the ball in the dirt, missing receivers. He was almost solely the reason we bogged down in the second half. Just shows how ludicrous some awards are.

I think he got it for political reasons. Shanahan is trying to build a team with chemistry and all, and the players (e.g., London Fletcher) did indicate that they were trying to rally behind McNabb. So no matter how bad of a day McNabb had, I bet he was going to get the game ball as long as we ended with the win.

Deadskins wrote:Carlos Rogers should have made his catch too.

If I had a nickel for every time I've said that . . .

ATX_Skins wrote:Mcnabb scrambled and ran out of bounds there towards the end. A lot of guys got on him for not sliding in bounds. All I could think of is imagining Campbell throwing it out of bounds and not picking up the first down.

You guys are correct in saying Mcnabb finds ways to win.

I could not believe he went out of bounds. I freaked out. The way that O was playing, running out of time was the only way to win.

crazyhorse1 wrote:I like McNabb quite a bit, but it was absurd he was named player of the game yesterday. He was awful

I agree. He wasn't very good. He was OK in the first half, but was horrible in the second. And he was lucky he didn't get grounding on that one play as well because it clearly as if the ref weren't seeing phantom receivers

CanesSkins26 wrote:

McNabb didn't lose the Texas game with 400 passing yards or the St. Louis game with 250. I'm thinking the league's 32nd ranked defense had a little something to do with that.

McNabb played great against the Texans but he was subpar against the Rams. A 79.7 qb rating against the Rams is nothing to be happy about.

Actually...

He was above par (not by a lot, but above) against the Rams! The Rams are 7th in the NFL for QB rating (71. allowed by a defense.

They are 5th in the NFL in QB completion % (55.1) by a defense. McNabb was above at 59.8!

And they are 8th in passing 1st down % allowed by a D (30.6) and this is the only area McNabb failed to exceed their average. He completed 8 first downs out of 32 passes or 25%. Not good.

Everyone looks at the Rams as a terrible team, but the really aren't any more. They are tied for first in their division and have the highest net points (by far) in the NFC West and the highest of all the 2-2 teams in the NFC.

Sure they lost to the Cardinals week one (17-13) and the by 2 points to the Raiders in week two, but they were in both of those games right up to the last second. And this is with a rookie QB!

Irn-Bru wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:I like McNabb quite a bit, but it was absurd he was named player of the game yesterday. He was awful-- interception, throwing the ball in the dirt, missing receivers. He was almost solely the reason we bogged down in the second half. Just shows how ludicrous some awards are.

I think he got it for political reasons. Shanahan is trying to build a team with chemistry and all, and the players (e.g., London Fletcher) did indicate that they were trying to rally behind McNabb. So no matter how bad of a day McNabb had, I bet he was going to get the game ball as long as we ended with the win.

Who cares what post-game award he won? I've got a cup that says "World's Greatest Dad" on it and I'm not even in the Top 10.

Back to McNabb...Why is everybody defending him? He had an awful game. Like last week. So far, out of 4 games, he has one great game and 3 terrible games. BTW, his best passing game came against, by far, the worst pass defense in the league. (I'll give you one guess as to which team is 2nd worst in pass defense).

Brad Gradkowski looked like Bart Starr against the Texans secondary...and if Louis Murphy catches a ball that hits him in the chest (rather than it popping out directly to a Texan for a play even Carlos Rogers could have made), the Raiders win.

LMAO Irn Bru, me too, even if Carlos just catches the ones at can end the game would be super. But heck, it's the same as a batted ball.

Dmac running out of bounds. Here's my take, it's the heat of the action, he's scrambling towards the eagles sideline, he prolly heard coaches yell out bounds and forgot what color he was wearing and ran out. You can see as soon as he crosses the line he realizes it. No biggie, it was a first down scramble, he had 3 downs to fish that last timeout from them

Why is everybody defending him?

Entertainment?

Notice there's not a lot of talk about how Rocky McIntosh could have ended the game with his own interception on the play immediately following Carlos' drop.

I know Los drops a lot of those, but he wasn't the only one to stone-hand the game winner.

SKINFAN wrote:Dmac running out of bounds. Here's my take, it's the heat of the action, he's scrambling towards the eagles sideline, he prolly heard coaches yell out bounds and forgot what color he was wearing and ran out. You can see as soon as he crosses the line he realizes it. No biggie, it was a first down scramble, he had 3 downs to fish that last timeout from them

It was a bone head mistake a rookie QB shouldn't have made. I'm a huge McNabb supporter, but that was just a stupid move, he needs to have the presence of mind to slide. And taking 40 seconds more off at the end would have been huge.

Bob 0119 wrote:Notice there's not a lot of talk about how Rocky McIntosh could have ended the game with his own interception on the play immediately following Carlos' drop.

Not by anyone who actually saw the play. Carlos dropped a pass in his hands. Rocky got one extended hand on the pass, it was an almost impossible catch. Who would say that? Seriously? Those situations were completely different.

Bob 0119 wrote:Notice there's not a lot of talk about how Rocky McIntosh could have ended the game with his own interception on the play immediately following Carlos' drop.

I know Los drops a lot of those, but he wasn't the only one to stone-hand the game winner.

I get the point, Bob, but MacIntosh's opportunity was a LOT tougher... catching that was doable... but would have taken some luck, as well...

'los? The ball was a nerf toss into the sweet spot... and a shot at pick 6...

Countertrey wrote:I get the point, Bob, but MacIntosh's opportunity was a LOT tougher... catching that was doable... but would have taken some luck, as well...

'los? The ball was a nerf toss into the sweet spot... and a shot at pick 6...

MacIntosh's catch would have been a great one for a true receiver to do because he'd have to one hand it or tip it to himself. I don't know any LB's who could have pulled that one off.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Countertrey wrote:I get the point, Bob, but MacIntosh's opportunity was a LOT tougher... catching that was doable... but would have taken some luck, as well...

'los? The ball was a nerf toss into the sweet spot... and a shot at pick 6...

MacIntosh's catch would have been a great one for a true receiver to do because he'd have to one hand it or tip it to himself. I don't know any LB's who could have pulled that one off.

Which would be why it would have required some luck... Gawd, is there nothing you won't find argument with?

Countertrey wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Countertrey wrote:I get the point, Bob, but MacIntosh's opportunity was a LOT tougher... catching that was doable... but would have taken some luck, as well...

'los? The ball was a nerf toss into the sweet spot... and a shot at pick 6...

MacIntosh's catch would have been a great one for a true receiver to do because he'd have to one hand it or tip it to himself. I don't know any LB's who could have pulled that one off.

Which would be why it would have required some luck... Gawd, is there nothing you won't find argument with?

Hmm...argument through agreement? Aren't we arguing the same thing?

Bob 0119 wrote:Notice there's not a lot of talk about how Rocky McIntosh could have ended the game with his own interception on the play immediately following Carlos' drop.

I know Los drops a lot of those, but he wasn't the only one to stone-hand the game winner.

Not even close to comparable drops. Carlos was looking the ball in all the way, and it hit him square in both hands. Rocky was running after the receiver and the ball hit him. He was not prepared for it, and only really got one hand on it after he turned his head and saw it at the last moment.

Carlos' dropped ball looked so much worse in slow motion. You could almost hear him saying "nghnoonghnoooooooo..."