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Some league insiders believe that free-agent coach Mike Shanahan would like to get another suitor to the table in order to drive up his leverage with the Redskins.

But even if he can't shake any other team out of the bushes, we're told that Shanahan will still make more than $50 million under the deal that the Redskins have ready for Shanahan's signature.

We assume it's a five-year contract, with an average salary in excess of $10 million per year.

It remains to be seen whether and to what extent Shanahan will keep any of the $7 million he's due to be paid in 2010 and 2011 by the Broncos. One league source recently told us that the Broncos might not be entitled to a full dollar-for-dollar offset, which means that Shanahan would keep some of the money from the Broncos, along with the $10 million from the Redskins.

The Redskins deal, if ultimately accepted by Shanahan, will make him the highest-paid coach in NFL history. Former Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren received an average salary in the range of $7.5 million to $8.5 million in his final years in Seattle.

Skinsfan55 wrote:I am not saying we should switch to a 3-4... but how would it waste our three best guys? Orakpo and Carter have experience at linebacker and Haynesworth has played DE before.

The 3-4 probably isn't for us (although all the elite teams seem to used it) but we'd be in relatively good position to adjust (even though we'd have Fletcher and McIntosh who would need to go.

VRIEL1 wrote:So you guys are going to tell me that in a 3-4 defense all they do is hold position, don't let the RB past and take up space?

I don't buy it. Look at Baltimore which ran a 3-4 and always went after the QB. Plus if I'm not mistaken the added bonus to the 3-4 is it's ability to adapt or change easily to stop the offense. The 4-3 is kinda limited in it's rigid roll.

DEHog wrote:Any chance Jerry Gray is the DC...Snyder had to of promised him something for doing the RR interview??

UK Skins Fan wrote:

DEHog wrote:Any chance Jerry Gray is the DC...Snyder had to of promised him something for doing the RR interview??

Hmmmm....I've wondered that. Though, I have no idea who'd want to be a defensive assistant to a man who interviews for his boss's job behind his back. And I don't want anybody getting a job that SNYDER has promised them!

DEHog wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:

DEHog wrote:Any chance Jerry Gray is the DC...Snyder had to of promised him something for doing the RR interview??

Hmmmm....I've wondered that. Though, I have no idea who'd want to be a defensive assistant to a man who interviews for his boss's job behind his back. And I don't want anybody getting a job that SNYDER has promised them!

That's my point... Gray had to know this would hurt his chances elsewhere...so it seem logical that he stays...the question is in what capacity??

Report: Redskins will be required to interview Gray again
Posted by Mike Florio on January 3, 2010 10:43 AM ET
It's been a strange few weeks regarding the Redskins and the Rooney Rule.

And it officially will be getting stranger.

More than two weeks ago, the Redskins announced the resignation of executive V.P. of football operations Vinny Cerrato. A full 114 minutes later, the Redskins announced Bruce Allen as the new G.M.

In the wake of the move, it was disclosed that the Redskins pre-complied with the Rooney Rule by interviewing a minority candidate for the G.M. job before Cerrato quit, even though the Redskins and the NFL refused to identify the candidate. (Multiple subsequent reports indicated it was Redskins director of pro personnel Morocco Brown.)

Then, word emerged that the Redskins had interviewed one or more in-house minority candidates for the head-coaching job, even though the head-coaching job was and still is held by Jim Zorn. Last Sunday night, Andrea Kremer of NBC reported that the Redskins interviewed secondary coach Jerry Gray with the blessing of the league -- and with a finding by the Fritz Pollard Alliance that the interview complied with the Rooney Rule.

The Washington Post subsequently confirmed that the Fritz Pollard Alliance had concluded that the Redskins were in compliance, and thus that the Redskins could fire coach Jim Zorn and hire whomever they want.

Not so fast, Redskins.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Redskins will be required to comply with the Rooney Rule after Zorn is fired.

Mort's report, if accurate, clears up an ambiguous stance the league office has taken regarding whether a team may satisfy the Rooney Rule by interviewing a coaching candidate before there's a coaching vacancy. Several weeks ago, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said, as to the coaching job, there can be no compliance without a vacancy; last Sunday night, after Kremer's report emerged, Aiello was a bit more equivocal.

So now it appears that the Redskins will be required to go through the motions -- again -- before anointing Shanahan as the next head coach of the team.

And it would be great if Gray and Greg Blache and any other minority candidate politely declines.

Frankly, if they have any self-respect, they will.

frankcal20 wrote:This one I don't think we can go after Snyder about. It was reported by the NFL that he did fulfill the requirements of the Rooney Rule. For them to then go back on their word, we'll that's not on Snyder. I kind of feel creepy about supporting Snyder in this subject but I think he did as he was advised too by Goodell and the RR committee.

frankcal20 wrote:This one I don't think we can go after Snyder about. It was reported by the NFL that he did fulfill the requirements of the Rooney Rule. For them to then go back on their word, we'll that's not on Snyder. I kind of feel creepy about supporting Snyder in this subject but I think he did as he was advised too by Goodell and the RR committee.

RayNAustin wrote:The rule itself is a mockery. It is an insult to common sense, and should be an insult to all minorities.

Anytime you specifically use race as a criteria, it's racism. You cannot stand against racism by advocating and employing racism, anymore than you can stand against dishonesty by lying.

If I were Gray, I would have been smart enough to understand the deal, and not participate in such transparently obvious nonsense.

But the same thing occurred with Blache and Williams ...

RayNAustin wrote:The rule itself is a mockery. It is an insult to common sense, and should be an insult to all minorities.

Anytime you specifically use race as a criteria, it's racism. You cannot stand against racism by advocating and employing racism, anymore than you can stand against dishonesty by lying.

If I were Gray, I would have been smart enough to understand the deal, and not participate in such transparently obvious nonsense.

But the same thing occurred with Blache and Williams ...

frankcal20 wrote:But if you call your boss and say - is this ok if I do this. And your boss checks with the powers at be and they are ok with it. How is that a mistake?

I understand that there is not a vacancy but it has been know that there would be a vacancy regardless of the effort, etc put forth by the current coaching staff.

I personally don't have a problem with the way this was handled and I actually think that being pro-active is a good thing. I 100% support the way this has been handled even though I 100% dislike DS and the way he has run this organization and the current coaching staff.

cleg wrote:This is just simple minded thinking. In order for racism to exist a power relationship must exist first. I.E. white people in positions of power intentionally exclude non-white who are not in power. A minority group cannot be racist - they can be bigots and hateful of other races but they cannot be racist and affect institutional change on the majority race.I college football programs....