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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:00 pm
by JansenFan
Right, and I think Cooley is too laid back to get that fired up.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:26 pm
by Irn-Bru
JansenFan wrote:Right, and I think Cooley is too laid back to get that fired up.

I say this as no offense to Cooley, but I don't see in him the kind of mature adult it takes to kick some butt and get people motivated. You can count on Cooley for many things, but at the end of the day he's a John Riggins, not a Sonny Jurgensen.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:11 pm
by chiefhog44
skins2357 wrote:not to mention that Cooley said this morning on EITM that Haynesworth ran off the field early because he was so emotional. He then went on to say that AH called EVERYONE out in the locker room and gave an emotional speech causing other players to become emotional. He said the jist of the speech was calling everyone to "MAN UP" and play their game

Call him what u want to but he is a beast player who looks to be becoming a defensive leader in the locker room too


You know what, do this before the game starts. Not after you just lost and you personally had a great game.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:50 pm
by BurgundyandGoldfaith
How much have we actually shelled out to Griffin? Haynesworth is a once-in-a-lifetime defensive playmaker, IMO more valuable than a Champ Bailey or any other position. People who don't watch football regularly point him out when watching. Yeah he goes down, but he manhandles double-teams @350lbs when everyone else has "one NFL caliber Olinemen" to battle. Put yourself between those types of collisions and see if you don't go to the ground.

We need to quit this criticism and put it where it rightly belongs' on offense.

Can anyone else name a Franchise Quality Redskin right now?

Haynesworth could be what brings this team back one day because in the next 10 drafts we will not see another Albert Haynesworth. In years past, I would have gladly paid $200mil just to play 12 starters on Defense. Don't think he's that big of a difference maker? Look at the Titans, who went 13-3 and then returned 20 of 22 starters.

Criticize Portis, Randy Thomas, Casey Rabach, Randal El, Laron Landry, Ladell Betts, and Vinny Cerrato if you want to call anyone overpaid.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:12 pm
by hogmoseley
The d wasn't completely horrible. Then again it was KC.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:05 pm
by FireVinny
hogmoseley wrote:The d wasn't completely horrible. Then again it was KC.


Yeah, but it was a KC team that held our offense to 7 first downs. Our offense only held the ball for 3 minutes on 1 drive. Our other drives: 1:06, 1:03, 2:44, 1:04, 1:57, 2:15, 1:03, 2:37, 2:00, 1:23, 1:44, 0:11.

Any team is tough to defend when you can't keep them off the field!

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:45 pm
by Wahoo McDaniels
jdubya wrote:someone said something about building through the draft to get O linemen a few pages back. yep, that is the truth.

But not in washington.

I would have taken a bunch of FAs to bolster the O line rather than pay haynesworth. All we do is sign FAs. When was the last quality O line draft pick? Samuels? 10 years ago?

You spend money on your problem areas. The FIRST thing that should have been addressed through FA was the offensive line.

I hope AH plays all 16 (though doubtful) and I hope he is a great redskin for years to come. But I am not sold after him causing some serious disruption to teams that were a combined 0-fer when they played us.

I might lean more his way if he tears it up against the Eagles. BUt I doubt it.


You missed my point. You can't build a line through FA because there are none available. Take a look at the list of FA O-Linemen who were available and all of sudden the group you got looks pretty good. As I said there were only a handful of any worth and it would have taken more than $12M a year to do it. These guys are a commodity and once you got a good one, you get the opportunity to lock'em up for the foreseeable future.

With that being said, our Player Personnel dept is horrendous so I don't even know if I trust them to build through the draft. I said it when they chose the "Bust Triumverate" of Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly and Fred Davis.

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:50 pm
by DEHog
Look at the Titans, who went 13-3 and then returned 20 of 22 starters


You beat me to it...For those of you who don't think AH is s baller try asking any member of the Titans!!

You want to argue that we shouldn't spend that much on 1 player...OK...but please don't tell me he's not playing well!

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:52 pm
by DEHog
JansenFan wrote:We've got defensive leaders though. I want someone on offense to get pissed off and start chucking things and give an emotional speech. I feel like Sellers is the only guy that could do it, but I don't know if he would.


I'm OK with Fat Albert calling out the O :shock:

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:55 am
by SKINFAN
DEHog wrote:
JansenFan wrote:We've got defensive leaders though. I want someone on offense to get pissed off and start chucking things and give an emotional speech. I feel like Sellers is the only guy that could do it, but I don't know if he would.


I'm OK with Fat Albert calling out the O :shock:


I'm ok with Albert calling out anyone. :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:45 am
by JansenFan
SKINFAN wrote:
DEHog wrote:
JansenFan wrote:We've got defensive leaders though. I want someone on offense to get pissed off and start chucking things and give an emotional speech. I feel like Sellers is the only guy that could do it, but I don't know if he would.


I'm OK with Fat Albert calling out the O :shock:


I'm ok with Albert calling out anyone. :lol:


I'm not really saying I don't want Al to call out the whole team. I'm saying I want a leader on offense that is doing it all the time. A defender isn't on the field and in the huddle. I want Campbell to snap in the huddle and tell Santana to run out his damn route, or tell Betts that third down backs have to pass protect, not tap the guy on the shoulder on the way by. Our defense plays with fire and emotion. Our offense plays like they can't wait to get off the field and watch the defense play with fire and emotion.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:59 am
by Deadskins
jdubya wrote:haynesworth plays 50% of the game. not even worth talking about.

biiiiiiiiiiiiig waste of $$.

No he's not. He's played very well so far.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:23 am
by DEHog
Deadskins wrote:
jdubya wrote:haynesworth plays 50% of the game. not even worth talking about.

biiiiiiiiiiiiig waste of $$.

No he's not. He's played very well so far.


Don't watse your time DS if people can't see he's not playing well they don't know football.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:19 am
by JansenFan
I say make the salary cap 5,300,000,000 and get 53 Al's at 100,000,000 a piece.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:21 am
by DEHog
JansenFan wrote:I say make the salary cap 5,300,000,000 and get 53 Al's at 100,000,000 a piece.

I like it :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:58 am
by VetSkinsFan
JansenFan wrote:I say make the salary cap 5,300,000,000 and get 53 Al's at 100,000,000 a piece.


Isn't that next year (uncapped) ? :twisted:

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:12 am
by JansenFan
You know, I hadn't thought about it like that. :lol: