The problem is....

[CanesSkins26]

Signs that something needs to change: Longtime fans using words like embarrassed and ashamed....Larry Michael--Larry Michael!--getting distraught on the air....former NFL players saying the Redskins have quit....current players questioning the play-calling on the sideline. I don't know what the change is--well, actually, I do--but obviously, something has to change.

(Actually, that was a stupid thing to write. Why does something have to change? I mean, it would be fun, I guess, but there's no law against teams occasionally having miserable years and going 5-11 or whatever. I think "Something has to change!' is reserved for the home game when no one shows up.)

Anyhow, a sampling of the carnage:

Michael Strahan on Fox's halftime show: "They've quit. The Washington Redskins have quit on the field."

John Riggins: In a series of post-game Tweets, he wrote this: "There are team specific issues for sure and some individual issues for sure but the owner ultimately is a loser and you can't fix that...as the owner alot on the line in Detroit u invite Tom Cruise to the game and he is chatting up your Coach! what does this tell us about YOU!....u r Zorn..Head Coach..in Detroit...alot on the line....and u r chatting up TomKat before the game...what does that tell us about YOU!!!"

Trevor Matich, on CSN's Postgame Live: "Beneath Rock Bottom. The only way it could have been worse if they would have been beaten by Maryland."

Brian Mitchell on CSN's Postgame Live: "They have a coach, a head coach who is very low key. He gives the little funny talks and he says things and he's honest. Can he get his damn team to play football? I don't think so.

[B-Mitch Cont]: "They lost, the fans booed last week, and people got mad at them. Well the fans deserve to be booing this team. And I think it's about time now. Dan Snyder, I'll say this, he spends money. That's all you really want your owner to do, spend money and be willing to do it. It's time for him to hire somebody who can run this football team. Start with a general manager, get you a coach that can get guys to play, because obviously right now, you don't have the right people in place....We're not hating. We love this football team. What I hate is seeing guys who get paid exorbitant amounts of money to go out here and [wet] the bed. I mean, they don't care. It truly bothers me, and there's too many guys on this team that go around this town or go around acting as if they are Tom Cruise. They're' big time. They're superstars. And they haven't done a damn thing on the field for this team."

[Later, he gave the coaching an F on his report card, and the defense an F-.]

Jon Jansen, on CSN: He said the win "couldn't have come against a better team." Also, if he had smiled any harder, all his teeth would have spontaneously popped out of his gums.

Larry Michael, in the first half: After using the terms "things falling apart" and "disastrous" to describe the Redskins, he said this: "The Lions have dominated this game. It pains me to say that, but they've dominated this game."

Doc Walker: At one point in the first half, the team's official radio sideline reporter said Phillip Daniels was trying to fire up teammates, but still described the mood as "false enthusiasm."

Dan Steinberg, on Friday: "Also, let me repeat this one more time: the Redskins will win this weekend, and I don't think it'll be close."

(Whoops! Seriously, that was bad. I tried and failed, and will not try again this season.)

Roger Mason: The former Wizards guard and huge Skins fan wrote this during and after the game: "I'm so embarrassed to a Redskins fan right now! What are we doing?....This is an all time low point in Redskins history..... I'm ashamed of my squad."

Clinton Portis: According to Chick Hernandez of CSN, the running back came to the sideline after the failed fourth-down run last week early in the first quarter, and said "Why run wide?"

Greg Blache, on CSN: "I think we're all at fault and we're all at blame....I knew coming in here that this was a dangerous football team and it was a very capable football team....Everybody in this league is pretty darn good and on any given Sunday they can get you, and our guys had to learn a bitter lesson today. Hopefully they'll learn something from it."

Jason Campbell, on CSN: "It was a tough loss, one that got away from us. We prepared all week, we were focused all week, and the game just seemed very strange. But in a lot of ways, this is a time that more than any time, is a sense of urgency for us to pull together."

[Normally I might mock this quote about nothing, but Campbell was the only Skins player who agreed to be on CSN's postgame show. Well, Campbell on Jon Jansen. That's just absurd.]

Larry Weisman: Here's something he reported: "[Tom] Cruise says his daughter loves the Redskins and always wears the Redskins pajamas the Snyders gave her."

Fantastic.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2009/09/time_to_make_a_change_obviousl.html#more

[DEHog]

From Lavar...

If peoples' eyes aren't open yet, then you really don't want to see! Open your eyes people! Players do what they are coached to do! We have all seen teams at some point win with way less talent than our Skins. It's been the same story since 2000. It's mystifying to me that ever since this man has bought this team, that we can't win.

"He'd rather have movie stars on the field distracting a coach who is in a no-win situation rather then making it an environment where guys who have done so much for this team don't even want to be a part of this. Why do we not see B-Mitch, Charles Mann, Art Monk, Riggo, Monte Coleman, the Hogs, heck even me? Why r we not out there with the team, raising the stakes by letting the current guys see the greats of the past right there?

"Mark May had some choice words about the owner. Riggo feels some type of way. These are my line of duty brothers.

"On my show, me and Dukes talked about a team struggling to find a identity. Well, after [Sunday's] loss, I have some more clarity. I have maintained a certain stance on Skins ownership after I lived through him trying to destroy my name and reputation, and I realized a whole bunch of things when I lived through that very trying time. One thing that became very evident to me was because I have a identity that was clear to my teammates and the fans, the things that were done to me made people respect me more.

"So [Sunday] I had a epiphany. A huge one. If we have a owner who would go to great lengths to try what he did with me amongst others, it leads me to believe that he has no understanding of true brotherhood and identity of self. And I realize that as an employee of someone who has no identity outside of how much money they have, you either conform to that and be without identity or you are identified for having an identity, which would be considered a direct threat....

"I now can honestly say that why would things ever change for our team when he has no respect for employees or fans, and we have none for him? Which means u have a revolving door of disgruntled employees and booing fans and very little support from the people who made it possible for Dan to be 2nd on Forbes's list of high grossing franchises.

"I now believe I can close my eyes and sleep better understanding that I can realistically curb my enthusiasm about guys overcoming their environment. It won't happen unless coaches and players see it and then decide that they will band together to win no matter what. Otherwise Dan will tell coaches what he wants; coaches will sabotage theirselves and the team just to try and stay in his good graces. During my time, Marty was the only head coach that I didn't see fall victim to this, and outside of Zorn, I played for every coach Dan hired.

"Coaches have to decide that it's more important to win together as a team void of Dan's hidden agendas. Create true accountability between coaches and players, which will create trust, and this team might have a chance to win. Otherwise these coaches will continue to think they are ok with Dan and he likes you, and be fired at the end of the season just like all the coaches before you.

"Wake up coaches! Players aren't robots, and some are smarter than you are. We can see and understand what is going on. The players will know when you as coaches have made the decision to win as a TEAM!!!!!....

"I appreciate all of your opinions, replies and support. One of the tweets said why do I always bash the owner? It may be considered bashing, but to me, if all roads lead to the same destination no matter how many detours you try to take, then as a voice of the people it must be said, plain and simple. They say that the truth will set you free, so I just put it out there. If you wish to use my truth, by all means be my guest. If not, that's fine as well.

"Everything isn't for everybody. All I have tried to do is challenge people to be accountable. That's it. Fans, players, media, ownership, we are all responsible for the state of our franchise. In some way, we are all to blame. We must all start being more accountable. How can we change things? TOGETHER, that's how.

"To the people who think the owner won't listen, FedEx Field holds just under 100 thousand fans. If half of them lined up at the front door of Redskins Park and requested a meeting about accountability all at the same time, or even wrote your concerns down and left it there, it may make a difference. Would show how die hard a fan you are how much you care. How much ACCOUNTABILITY we have.

"It has to start with us the fans: if we raise our level of accountability then the rest has no choice but to fall in line. And that means everybody. But the real question is do we really care that much or are we just talkers???? The ball is in your court FANS. It's in our court to start the process of change. This city and its fans can start up the road to earning and deserving championship caliber teams. One team in town has done it and look at how we are excited about them. This is not far fetched that us--you the fan--have that type of power, because you do....

"I would love to help the skins from within but because I am forced to be a outcast I do it from where I can. I LOVE THE SKINS!! BELIEVE ME."

[PulpExposure]

Secondly, you never get rid of a shut down corner that you draft. They are not found every day.

Non-starter. Gibbs had 2 choices here. Find someone willing to trade a pick or player of value to the skins, OR lose Bailey in 2 months to FA, with NO compensation. It was not a question of "getting rid" of a shut down corner. Bailey was not returning to the Skins one way or another. HE had made that very clear.

Huh? What about the Franchise Tag? All we'd have to do is ensure him that he is the top paid player at his position. Still don't like the move.

Yep that what I was going to say.

Franchise tag doesn't make a player play for you. They just hold out instead.

Really? You honestly think that being paid that much (avg top 5 CB money, right?) that he wouldn't play one more season to try and get a monster deal (even bigger than the monster deal he just got for one year) somewhere far away from DC?

Yeah, I do think he would have held out. Because there's not a damn thing stopping a team from using the franchise tag on the player the next year, after all.

And remember, according to rumors at the time, this move wasn't because of the Redskins, or the ownership, or the coach. It was supposedly because Champ had an affair in the area, and his wife told him to get the heck out of DC to keep his family intact.

[DEHog]

Secondly, you never get rid of a shut down corner that you draft. They are not found every day.

Non-starter. Gibbs had 2 choices here. Find someone willing to trade a pick or player of value to the skins, OR lose Bailey in 2 months to FA, with NO compensation. It was not a question of "getting rid" of a shut down corner. Bailey was not returning to the Skins one way or another. HE had made that very clear.

Huh? What about the Franchise Tag? All we'd have to do is ensure him that he is the top paid player at his position. Still don't like the move.

Yep that what I was going to say.

Franchise tag doesn't make a player play for you. They just hold out instead.

Really? You honestly think that being paid that much (avg top 5 CB money, right?) that he wouldn't play one more season to try and get a monster deal (even bigger than the monster deal he just got for one year) somewhere far away from DC?

Yeah, I do think he would have held out. Because there's not a damn thing stopping a team from using the franchise tag on the player the next year, after all.

And remember, according to rumors at the time, this move wasn't because of the Redskins, or the ownership, or the coach. It was supposedly because Champ had an affair in the area, and his wife told him to get the heck out of DC to keep his family intact.

As others would say...you don’t know that…but I was simply pointing out that the Skins did have that option.

Champ played out his rookie contract; watched DS pay Sanders, George, Smith and others. I’m sure that didn’t have anything to do with him leaving

[SkinsJock]

We are who we are and the only really sensible decision is to try and make sure that going forward we have a better chance at success - nothing that happened in the past helps this franchise going forward except to learn from it - the current state of the franchise has very little if anything to do with how the team was managed and coached during Gibbs first tenure here

I was excited when we first brought in Zorn as the offensive coordinator as Holmgren and others whom I also thought knew what they were talking about all said that Zorn had a bright future in today's NFL as he was reportedly an offensive "guru" - then when Zorn became coach I was prepared to let him grow into that job - after the first couple of games with Campbell as QB, I was one here who thought that he was not that good a decision maker for a QB and I voiced concern about the amount of time it took for him to go through his progressions - he was very sloooow - after 8 weeks I tried pointing out to others here that we were lucky to be 6-2 as we were not that good and our QB (while OK) was certainly not a very good QB - we all saw how we played at the end and this season we decided we would take a chance on many parts of our offense and in my opinion it is because of that facet of our team that many other parts are not playing well together either

we are a mediocre team and despite losing to Detroit we are still just a mediocre team that I still think ends up at 8-8 or maybe 7-9 - losing to Detroit was bad but it was just 1 game and the defense cannot be that bad at stopping 3rd downs all season long


Dan Snyder in my opinion has to decide that the best chance for success here under his ownership and control is to turn over all decisions regarding the football team to a GM or a FO team of which he has no part. This is something that can be done in the very near future with the idea being that changes will most likely be made after the end of the season but those decisions on what to do and what needs to be done going forward will be made by the new FO group/team

HOWEVER - I do not believe that Snyder will do that or that he will even fire Cerrato but that is what I think needs to happen - I do not think that it is at all helpful to our franchise to have any changes to this team during the season except those changes that are decided by the coaches - they are football people and they will get the best out of this team over the next 13 games - THEN, NEXT OFFSEASON - now comes the fun part for us Redskins fans - we will go through another offseason of Snyder showing everyone how to "sell or market" the chances for success based on who he 'buys' and many here will think this team has a chance next year, like they did this year and will tell the realists here like DEHog and CLL that we do not know what we are doing making suggestions like we have the past 5 months including the bad boys, RiC and myself - after all, 1 is a Canadian and the other an Aussie

[chiefhog44]

So if we got rid of Vinny this week, who would you replace him with?

Holmgren? Shannahan?

Kindly explain why you feel firing Vinnie will somehow magically cause Zorn to become a master play caller, or our receivers to ensure that they are past the marker on that 3rd down pass? How will it result in our Corners suddenly covering the #2 receiver like a blanket? How will if cause our G-T Combos to start blasting 6 land highways for Portis to run through?

Please.

Plain fact is, it just doesn't matter when Vinnie goes... HE does not effect the outcome of next week's game one little bit.

I'm not saying it does. Nor do I think you can hire someone TO magically change Zorn into a stud.

What is does do is it gives me and the fans the comfort of knowing that the ship has been righted. What ever happens this season, I know that by the end of the season, there is going to be a full scale housecleaning. That my friend is a refreshing thought.

Secondly, by hiring someone now, this week, it allows them to observe the team for the remainder of the season, so that by the time the season ends, the changes made will be well thought through.

Third, by hiring a GM now, we will finally have someone, with football knowledge, be able to give Zorn a true assessment. IS he a capable coach. From an outsiders point of view, the results are mixed (I'm not debating this), but at least we will have someone who has a daily view of what the hell is going on inside the organization beside Danny boy.

[SKINFAN]

TALENT? there we go there's the problem! Our coach doesn't want to try anything because we have no talent. The same no talent crew that was in the playoffs 2 our of the four years before he got here. I think it's coaching talent that we lack.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Champ played out his rookie contract; watched DS pay Sanders, George, Smith and others. I’m sure that didn’t have anything to do with him leaving

Almost every player in the NFL plays out their rookie contract, including all the people you mentioned who weren't in their rookie contract. Why would that matter? You play it out, play well and cash it in. He did that, why would that specific reason that applies to practically every other player on every team in the NFL have caused him to not do it here?

Here is how the argument really works here:

- I blame DS
- Everything is his fault, regardless of evidence or logic
- Which PROVES that DS is the issue

This being a great demonstration of that process

[DEHog]

Champ played out his rookie contract; watched DS pay Sanders, George, Smith and others. I’m sure that didn’t have anything to do with him leaving

Almost every player in the NFL plays out their rookie contract, including all the people you mentioned who weren't in their rookie contract. Why would that matter? You play it out, play well and cash it in. He did that, why would that specific reason that applies to practically every other player on every team in the NFL have caused him to not do it here?

Here is how the argument really works here:

- I blame DS
- Everything is his fault, regardless of evidence or logic
- Which PROVES that DS is the issue

This being a great demonstration of that process

Why do you think Portis is here? There are many other examples.

Truth is I have no idea why Champ left if I had to guess I'd say it the millions Denver paid him. I just get tired of hearing about the affair as if moving from D.C. would solve that. The fact remians that Champ was the best player on thoses teams and the team made no attempt (until his contract year) to resign him while over paying for those mentioned and others.

[NYFINESTSKINSFAN]

This is my first post so please don't rail me too hard. My thoughts on the Skins are a little all over the place, but it all comes back to one thing.

I am new to the board. Been a Redksins fan since I was born. I left Washington to go to school at Georgia Tech, and in the south, college football is king, so I quickly adapted. I live in Georgia but still watch the Redskins a lot. Over the last 20 years, I've become much less connected as a fan of the Skins and for the last few years have really looked at them through unbiased eyes. I guess the part of my NFL fanatical side was replaced by pulling for my college team instead. Over the years while my allegiance hasn't changed, quite honestly my passion is college football, not pro.

That said, the Redskins are still my favorite pro team and always will be.

The fundamental problem with the Redskins is that the owner doesn't understand how to surround himself with knowledgable football minds that are the basis of creating a winning organization.

When Dan Snyder hired Pepper Rodgers (Someone I was very familiar with having been a Georgia Tech fan, Pepper is both a grad and past coach), I knew from that moment that we were dealing with an owner who didn't know his hand from his butt. Pepper is a good guy, but had little to no real experience giving advice about a pro team.

Snyder and Pepper were the geniuses that hired Steve Spurrier. I knew from day one Spurrier's game did not translate into the pros. His work ethic was never there. So what exactly did these two see in Spurrier that made them think he would be a winner in the NFL? It seems like after that failed experiment, Snyder in his desperation hired Joe Gibbs.

I think JoeGibbs is one of the greatest football minds ever, but his second coming wasn't exactly looked at by the unbiased outside world as a strong move. It was more like an admission by the owner that "Hey, I don't know what the #@%&! I'm doing, can you come in here and help me?"

I was amazed that Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell. Campbell was a top rated highschool player by Auburn, who in 5 years at Auburn was widely considered a disappointment. It wasn't until Campbell's senior year when he had two first round RB's in Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown behind him that he had a decent season.

Campbell has all the measurables, but bottom line is he was never a winner and he made way too many mistakes at the college level. In 2003 an undermanned GT defense totally annhilated a #3 ranked Auburn team with Campbell at the helm by confusing him with multiple blitz schemes. He came off the hinges. When the Skins drafted him, I was shocked.

This may not be a popular viewpoint, but I thought when the Skins traded Champ Bailey away for Clinton Portis was one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen. Good-Great Runningbacks that produce 4 yards a carry and plus 1000 yard seasons are a dime a dozen. Shutdown cornerbacks in the NFL are a prized commodity and maybe only come around 2 or 3 times in a decade. That move coupled with past moves, indicated to me that ultimately the Redskins have an owner that doesn't understand the game of football.

Outside of first round success, the Redskins in my opinion have extremely poor scouting and on top of that they end up paying too much for quality free agents. I don't doubt Snyder's desire to want a winner. He just doesn't know how to go about it. Its hard to build a winner when you are operating under a salary cap and most of your success relies on paying top dollar for established guys. You have to have grass roots scouting that produces the other 18 starters on your team. And that means the ability to draft past the first and second round which in my opinion has been next to awful for the last 10 years.

Do I think Zorn is a bad coach? Don't know... I know he's not a good one. But the problems that the Redskins have were here long before Zorn became coach. I thought it was absolutely stupid with that they handled the mismanagement of player personnel by creating so much dissension preseason with their failed efforts to get Mark Sanchez.

The moves that the Redskins have made over the years prior to Zorn are crazy to me. When The Skins got Randel El from Pittsburg, I was like "WHy?" He is a good player, but you already have a guy just like that in Santana Moss? Why do you want to fill your roster with diminutive receivers? Makes no sense. Moss is great, but he's had no complimetary receiver to what he brings every Sunday since he has been a Redskin.

The Skins have gone after big name free agents since the beginning of Snyder's tenure as owner and not one of them was worth the money he shelled out. Its no wonder the players love him so much because they get paid so highly. I almost stopped being a fan of the Skins altogether when Snyder brought in Deion Sanders. Blech!

The problem with the Redskins as I see it go far and above the Head Coach. Zorn will end up being fired eventually and replaced with another Zorn. Until Snyder can surround himself with real football minds that can evaluate talent at the college level successfully, stop throwing money at top free agents (has one top dollar free agent done better with the Skins than he was prior to coming to the Skins?), and make smarter management decisions, then we will continue to see an underachieving highly paid team.

Snyder is too busy wanting to be the mastermind who had the insight to hire the next hall of fame coach (Jerry Jones envy). Or land _____ fill in the blank future hall of fame player. The one time he makes an established hire, he goes after Gibbs who was 15 years removed from the game and quite honestly didn't have the passion for it, which is why he left in 1992.

Anyway, just some food for thought. It sucks right now being a Skins fan. There is no reason whatsoever why this organization cannot have come close to the success we experienced in the 80's and early 90's. The problem is the owner doesn't know how to get out of his own way. Having as many losing seasons as we've had under Dan Snyder, someone needs to take a long hard look in the mirror, and it ain't Zorn.

Great post.

[KazooSkinsFan]

The fact remians that Champ was the best player on thoses teams and the team made no attempt (until his contract year) to resign him while over paying for those mentioned and others.

I have no idea about the affair either, but since Champ didn't show himself to be of very much emotional maturity in his own behavior you could be right that he wanted to be the Queen of England and not like almost other player in the NFL including the best players. And fewer teams are re-signing players before their rookie contracts are up because it leads to more problems and not less when they take the early money but renege on wanting more anyway. See the most aggressive team in re-signing players early and how every one of them ended up being traded or demanding to be traded, the Eagles, for that.

I admit I disliked him so much personally by the time he left I am not impartial and was glad to see him go. And even though CP may make ill advised statements, I always felt it was driven by wanting the Skins to win and not like Bailey being focused on being worshiped and having a big bank account. I for one say screw Bailey and I have no idea why you would want a jerk like that back even though you're right he was a heck of a good football player.

[MEZZSKIN]

This is my first post so please don't rail me too hard. My thoughts on the Skins are a little all over the place, but it all comes back to one thing.

I am new to the board. Been a Redksins fan since I was born. I left Washington to go to school at Georgia Tech, and in the south, college football is king, so I quickly adapted. I live in Georgia but still watch the Redskins a lot. Over the last 20 years, I've become much less connected as a fan of the Skins and for the last few years have really looked at them through unbiased eyes. I guess the part of my NFL fanatical side was replaced by pulling for my college team instead. Over the years while my allegiance hasn't changed, quite honestly my passion is college football, not pro.

That said, the Redskins are still my favorite pro team and always will be.

The fundamental problem with the Redskins is that the owner doesn't understand how to surround himself with knowledgable football minds that are the basis of creating a winning organization.

When Dan Snyder hired Pepper Rodgers (Someone I was very familiar with having been a Georgia Tech fan, Pepper is both a grad and past coach), I knew from that moment that we were dealing with an owner who didn't know his hand from his butt. Pepper is a good guy, but had little to no real experience giving advice about a pro team.

Snyder and Pepper were the geniuses that hired Steve Spurrier. I knew from day one Spurrier's game did not translate into the pros. His work ethic was never there. So what exactly did these two see in Spurrier that made them think he would be a winner in the NFL? It seems like after that failed experiment, Snyder in his desperation hired Joe Gibbs.

I think JoeGibbs is one of the greatest football minds ever, but his second coming wasn't exactly looked at by the unbiased outside world as a strong move. It was more like an admission by the owner that "Hey, I don't know what the #@%&! I'm doing, can you come in here and help me?"

I was amazed that Gibbs drafted Jason Campbell. Campbell was a top rated highschool player by Auburn, who in 5 years at Auburn was widely considered a disappointment. It wasn't until Campbell's senior year when he had two first round RB's in Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown behind him that he had a decent season.

Campbell has all the measurables, but bottom line is he was never a winner and he made way too many mistakes at the college level. In 2003 an undermanned GT defense totally annhilated a #3 ranked Auburn team with Campbell at the helm by confusing him with multiple blitz schemes. He came off the hinges. When the Skins drafted him, I was shocked.

This may not be a popular viewpoint, but I thought when the Skins traded Champ Bailey away for Clinton Portis was one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen. Good-Great Runningbacks that produce 4 yards a carry and plus 1000 yard seasons are a dime a dozen. Shutdown cornerbacks in the NFL are a prized commodity and maybe only come around 2 or 3 times in a decade. That move coupled with past moves, indicated to me that ultimately the Redskins have an owner that doesn't understand the game of football.

Outside of first round success, the Redskins in my opinion have extremely poor scouting and on top of that they end up paying too much for quality free agents. I don't doubt Snyder's desire to want a winner. He just doesn't know how to go about it. Its hard to build a winner when you are operating under a salary cap and most of your success relies on paying top dollar for established guys. You have to have grass roots scouting that produces the other 18 starters on your team. And that means the ability to draft past the first and second round which in my opinion has been next to awful for the last 10 years.

Do I think Zorn is a bad coach? Don't know... I know he's not a good one. But the problems that the Redskins have were here long before Zorn became coach. I thought it was absolutely stupid with that they handled the mismanagement of player personnel by creating so much dissension preseason with their failed efforts to get Mark Sanchez.

The moves that the Redskins have made over the years prior to Zorn are crazy to me. When The Skins got Randel El from Pittsburg, I was like "WHy?" He is a good player, but you already have a guy just like that in Santana Moss? Why do you want to fill your roster with diminutive receivers? Makes no sense. Moss is great, but he's had no complimetary receiver to what he brings every Sunday since he has been a Redskin.

The Skins have gone after big name free agents since the beginning of Snyder's tenure as owner and not one of them was worth the money he shelled out. Its no wonder the players love him so much because they get paid so highly. I almost stopped being a fan of the Skins altogether when Snyder brought in Deion Sanders. Blech!

The problem with the Redskins as I see it go far and above the Head Coach. Zorn will end up being fired eventually and replaced with another Zorn. Until Snyder can surround himself with real football minds that can evaluate talent at the college level successfully, stop throwing money at top free agents (has one top dollar free agent done better with the Skins than he was prior to coming to the Skins?), and make smarter management decisions, then we will continue to see an underachieving highly paid team.

Snyder is too busy wanting to be the mastermind who had the insight to hire the next hall of fame coach (Jerry Jones envy). Or land _____ fill in the blank future hall of fame player. The one time he makes an established hire, he goes after Gibbs who was 15 years removed from the game and quite honestly didn't have the passion for it, which is why he left in 1992.

Anyway, just some food for thought. It sucks right now being a Skins fan. There is no reason whatsoever why this organization cannot have come close to the success we experienced in the 80's and early 90's. The problem is the owner doesn't know how to get out of his own way. Having as many losing seasons as we've had under Dan Snyder, someone needs to take a long hard look in the mirror, and it ain't Zorn.

Great post.

Amen!