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langleyparkjoe wrote:norskinsfan wrote:
Look at past Skins QB's who have been traded, waved , or signed with another team and did something
Trent Green
Brad Johnson
Gus Ferotte
Stan Humphries
Gus =
ey, imagine him with a pro bowl QB... it will give this team hope... i have the same feelings in certain situations when it comes to JC and Suisham... at 40+ yards out, i feel it is 50/50 for Suisham to make it... when it comes to a 20+ yard pass, i feel it is 50/50 that the pass from JC will be accurate enough for a WR to catch... JC had 13 TD's all of last season, 13 TD's, Cutler probably had that in is first 6 games... also, who cares that he only had 6 INT, that is because most of his passes are short passes, and the long balls he does throw, no one is close enough to catch them...djlash wrote:I really don't see why everyone is up in arms over a potential trade for Cutler. It's clear to anyone who has watched the tape of both Cutler and Campbell that Cutler makes much better decisions with the football then JC.
Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night he has formally asked Denver to trade him and confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective, while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.
"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," Cutler said. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.
"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know," Cutler added. "I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [Saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."
Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first (nonmandatory) team meeting Monday as the Broncos begin their offseason program.
"The Denver Broncos confirm that Jay Cutler has requested a trade," team spokesman Jim Saccomano told The Associated Press on Monday.
Cutler spoke exclusively Wednesday night with FOXSports.com's Jay Glazer at the UFC Fight Night 18 card in Nashville that both were attending. Cutler says he was shocked the Broncos issued a statement proclaiming he was on the block after conversations with agent Bus Cook.
"I was surprised they decided to trade me this soon," Cutler told Glazer in his first comments since the statement was released. "I didn't want to get traded. This wasn't me. (The Broncos) had been going back and forth saying things, wanting me to be their quarterback and then they didn't."
"I really didn't want this. I love Denver. I really like my teammates. I didn't want it to get this far."
djlash wrote:Cooter wrote:The Broncos, though, aren't giving Cutler away. A source told FOXSports.com that the asking price is greater than a first- and third-round draft choice.
An asking price the Redskins cannot afford, my opinion of course.
When was the last time cost was ever an issue for the Redskins?
VetSkinsFan wrote:Again, I say not no, but hell no to two first rounders.
djlash wrote:When was the last time cost was ever an issue for the Redskins?
PMG12569 wrote:spudstr04 wrote:If he trades
I don't know why.
ey's lack of TD's on him. He had the most receptions on the team, and the most by a TE in franchise history. He's arguably our best offensive player, and a great core Redskin. He wants to play his entire career in B&G, and most fans would love to see him do just that. I'm with spud on this one.Skinsfan55 wrote:Why are the Redskins doing this... Jay Cutler is not better than Campbell...
By getting involved in this they risk alienating their quarterback and turning this into a season long drama. My guess is this Cutler thing falls through because we don't have the parts to make it work and Jason Campbell gets ticked off. He has a great season anyway because he's finally comfortable in the system and the rookies step up and the line keeps him off his back... Then he refuses to re-sign with the team and gets a big contract from someone else leaving us in his dust...
PMG12569 wrote:The WC offense doesn't use the TE that much anyways and Davis is bigger and more of an athlete.
PMG12569 wrote:Davis is bigger and more of an athlete.
spudstr04 wrote:If he trades
langleyparkjoe wrote:Though his numbers weren't up to par last season,
frankcal20 wrote:I don't know how anyone could think this makes sense. The only reason Cutler had more yds is b/c of several factors. The Bronco's were playing from behind most games and also did not have a run game last year either. Also, JC had line issues where he was literally running for his life.
Cutler is known league wide to be a bonafied PUNK. Ask Phillip Rivers who is favorite player is.....and Rivers is a great guy.
Vinny and Danny love to make splashes. They love being talked about in the media and you know how the love to make a "DEAL." For some reason, we usually still loose out on the deal. I still think we lost out on the Portis/Bailey trade. but thats just my personal opinion.
I would take a reliable, quiet QB who does not win nor loose games for us over a guy who has a vocal opinion about everything football related.
NO THANK YOU VINNY AND DANNY. I think Redskins Nation is perfectly fine with our QB in Jason Campbell. Get him a good lineman and we will have something.
The only reason Cutler had more yds is b/c of several factors. The Bronco's were playing from behind most games and also did not have a run game last year either. Also, JC had line issues where he was literally running for his life.
CanesSkins26 wrote:The only reason Cutler had more yds is b/c of several factors. The Bronco's were playing from behind most games and also did not have a run game last year either. Also, JC had line issues where he was literally running for his life.
Having a good running game makes passing the ball easier. It was very impressive what Cutler did despite an utter lack of a rushing attack. JC had a solid running game, particularly early in the season, and still struggled all season putting points on the board. No doubt the line struggled last season but JC's slow decision making and slow release contributed to that problem. Besides, Matt Cassell took 9 more sacks than JC last season and still posted better numbers, including 21 tds, so to blame all of JC's problems on factors beyond his control (i.e. the line, the receivers) is a joke.
Skinsfan55 wrote:Why are the Redskins doing this... Jay Cutler is not better than Campbell...
By getting involved in this they risk alienating their quarterback and turning this into a season long drama. My guess is this Cutler thing falls through because we don't have the parts to make it work and Jason Campbell gets ticked off. He has a great season anyway because he's finally comfortable in the system and the rookies step up and the line keeps him off his back... Then he refuses to re-sign with the team and gets a big contract from someone else leaving us in his dust...
Cutler is not better than Campbell. Defenses salivate to go after Campbell. They know he will not be able to adjust to a blitz and burn them. So I noticed after the Pittsburgh game teams just pinned there ears back and went after him. This killed our running game and our season. He was always confused and calling timeouts. It ticks me off just thinking about it.](./images/smilies/eusa_wall.gif "Brick wall")