Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:07 pm
That's awesome Jake... I never realized that was on the site, but I'll be checking it often now. Thanks!
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Jason Taylor Released
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:10 pm
I think if we sign Bertrand berry to a couple years at a low salary it would be a solid move, even for an old guy this man can still rush the passer and is looked at as one of the value free agents this year. Also mabye ray willis? Don't know a lot about this man could someone provide some info?
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:10 pm
Tampa Bay has already come out and said they want Jason Taylor. Jim Bates and him were together in Miami.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:15 pm
We should have at least entertained trade offers. 
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:16 pm
Jake wrote:Smithian wrote:He did? Man, I need to get up to date. Lets atleast get Demetric Evans back.jeremyroyce wrote:I had no idea that Phillip Daniels was released either
Why do I even keep the roster and transactions pages up to date?????
http://www.the-hogs.net/washington-redskins/roster.php
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Hey man I'm sorry but I have been busy of late and I never heard of any of this.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:19 pm
Skinsfan55 wrote:This was a mistake.
Jason Taylor was injured last season, he's still got a lot of talent, and IMO I saw him as the reason behind the Haynesworth signing.
Now we have a big defensive tackle and no elite ends, it makes no sense.
yes. exactly. it will make even less sense when...
we are sitting on our hands and watching Bill Parcells draft someone with our pick.
or when... the Cowboys sign him and he's fully healthy all year for them
This will no doubt lead to more signings or the yearly attempt to trade away more draft picks for someone else's malcontent (Lance Briggs, Chad Johnson, Jason Taylor. . . Julius Peppers).
Hooray.
and yes, what an turd Jason Taylor is. You'd think he would feel obligated to make up for the colossol dissapointment he was last year. butthead.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:24 pm
Deadskins wrote:SkinsFreak wrote:Taylor’s 2009 salary was reported to be a hefty $8 million. Despite the Redskins’ free agent signings last Friday, team officials did not ask Taylor to take a pay cut.
The Redskins did want to add a clause in Taylor’s contract requiring him to participate in 25 of 39 days in the team’s off-season workout program.
Taylor declined, leading to his release.
What a selfish fool. The team didn't ask him to take a pay cut, offering to pay him the full $8M per his contract, but simply asked him to participate in 25 of 39 days in the team’s off-season workout program, to which Taylor declined. Maybe that's why Parcel's didn't want him.
What a joke... I mean, if a team is offering to pay you THAT much money, especially after the season he just had... you're telling me you can't show up for a portion of the offseason workouts??? Good riddance...
Less than 2/3 of the workouts, too. What an ungrateful bum. I just hope he doesn't go to a division foe.
Yeah, I agree, that's pretty ungrateful. The team merely wanted him to participate in SOME of the off-season workouts, especially coming off a season riddled with injuries, and the guy can't step up.
"Hey Jason, we'll be happy to pay you the full $8 million, but since you suffered several injuries last year which severely effected your overall production last year, if we're going to pay you that much, would you mind getting involved with our off-season work-out program? You know, so perhaps you won't suffer more injuries, are in the best shape possible and since this IS your job?
"Uhh, sorry guys, I don't like working out, no matter how much you pay me. Besides, I've enrolled in tap and ballet dance classes and your off-season program will conflict with my dance classes and my fittings for leotards, tights, tutus, fairy wings and satin ballerina slippers."
Cerrato said in an interview on the NFLN that they did include a work-out clause in Haynesworth's contract, so maybe the team is trying to do the right thing by making these athletes stay in shape and attend off-season programs.
Gee, how dare the team ask a paid athlete to participate in off-season work-outs and programs.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:46 pm
Great news. I hope that we let some of the younger guys get a shot. Let's resign Daniels and maybe even Evans.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:40 pm
I think we've seen the LAST of JT....
Can you say...........retirement? He can go dancing all day long.
Can you say...........retirement? He can go dancing all day long.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:05 pm
Good riddens! The guy was riding the gravy train. No more gravy for you Mr. Taylor. 
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:08 pm
spudstr04 wrote:Well, we did just save some money. Look on the bright side. I agree with the Ray Willis signing, he'd be a good Tackle, then we would most certainly go after Orakpo in the draft.
From the mock's I've seen, Orakpo isn't likely to be there when we draft.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:30 pm
To think he did not want to agree to a work out clause in his contract. The Redskins were willing to pay him the full salary he was due. Only if he was willing to sign a workout clause. But, he declined.
So I say screw that punk. He just basically stole money from the franchise. He gave us nothing but a headache!
So I say screw that punk. He just basically stole money from the franchise. He gave us nothing but a headache!
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:38 pm
So we are no basing cuts on where a guy workouts...Has JT conditioning ever been a issue?? I'd respect the FO more if they would just say he’s not worth the money, but that would be admitting that they made a mistake. I love how some of you are always discrediting the source but when it fits your point of view you're OK with it. After the AH signing some of you were proclaiming how great JT would be next year, now you’re glad hes gone???
For the record I was against this move from the start another example of Snyder mortgaging the future for the quick fix!!
For the record I was against this move from the start another example of Snyder mortgaging the future for the quick fix!!
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:00 pm
DEHog wrote:So we are no basing cuts on where a guy workouts...Has JT conditioning ever been a issue?? I'd respect the FO more if they would just say he’s not worth the money, but that would be admitting that they made a mistake. I love how some of you are always discrediting the source but when it fits your point of view you're OK with it. After the AH signing some of you were proclaiming how great JT would be next year, now you’re glad hes gone???
For the record I was against this move from the start another example of Snyder mortgaging the future for the quick fix!!
Looks like the workout thing is legit:
Taylor was asked by the Redskins to take part in 75 percent of their offseason workouts, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton. That would have required him to be at the Redskins' facility during eight of the 13 weeks of the offseason program, three days a week.
Family took precedence over the money.
With three children, Taylor, who has a home in the Miami area, opted not to agree to the workout provisions. The team was willing to keep his restructured salary at $8.5 million, but his desire to be with his family in the offseason was more important in his life.
"He wanted to spend the offseason with his family," said Taylor's agent, Gary Wichard. "He just kind of chose family over going up there."
The flap is reminiscent of last year, when Taylor clashed with the Miami Dolphins for competing in "Dancing With the Stars" rather than working out with the team in the offseason. Taylor finished second to Kristi Yamaguchi on the reality television show, then was shipped by the Dolphins to the Redskins.
That meant Taylor spent virtually the entire year apart from his wife and children in Florida.
"He had been away for four months in Los Angeles, then he got back to Miami and then he got traded," Wichard said. "He wanted to spend time with his three kids."
Note they said they did NOT ask him to restructure. It may, also, be a cap issue but the FO is not just making this up.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:14 pm
Fios wrote:DEHog wrote:So we are no basing cuts on where a guy workouts...Has JT conditioning ever been a issue?? I'd respect the FO more if they would just say he’s not worth the money, but that would be admitting that they made a mistake. I love how some of you are always discrediting the source but when it fits your point of view you're OK with it. After the AH signing some of you were proclaiming how great JT would be next year, now you’re glad hes gone???
For the record I was against this move from the start another example of Snyder mortgaging the future for the quick fix!!
Looks like the workout thing is legit:Taylor was asked by the Redskins to take part in 75 percent of their offseason workouts, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton. That would have required him to be at the Redskins' facility during eight of the 13 weeks of the offseason program, three days a week.
Family took precedence over the money.
With three children, Taylor, who has a home in the Miami area, opted not to agree to the workout provisions. The team was willing to keep his restructured salary at $8.5 million, but his desire to be with his family in the offseason was more important in his life.
"He wanted to spend the offseason with his family," said Taylor's agent, Gary Wichard. "He just kind of chose family over going up there."
The flap is reminiscent of last year, when Taylor clashed with the Miami Dolphins for competing in "Dancing With the Stars" rather than working out with the team in the offseason. Taylor finished second to Kristi Yamaguchi on the reality television show, then was shipped by the Dolphins to the Redskins.
That meant Taylor spent virtually the entire year apart from his wife and children in Florida.
"He had been away for four months in Los Angeles, then he got back to Miami and then he got traded," Wichard said. "He wanted to spend time with his three kids."
Note they said they did NOT ask him to restructure. It may, also, be a cap issue but the FO is not just making this up.
A "source" I get blasted on here when I post something like that.
I not saying that didn't play into but to base your decision on it???
As I understand it they did ask him the restructure his contract to include the workout...they weren't in the orignal contract.
As for JT after reading that I now have more respect for him!
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:27 pm
Thanks Fios.
Wasn't this a similar problem Parcel's had with Taylor? I'm sure Parcel's didn't care if Taylor likes to dance or enters competitions. But when that player skips off-season work-outs and programs and is away from the team, it isn't looked upon favorably in this era of the NFL.
These days, it's a year-round profession. These guys are paid top dollar and it's not unreasonable to ask these guys to work-out and get treatment at the team facilities with the teams coaches and trainers. And further, especially in Taylor's case, with his hefty salary, injuries and a lack of production due to those injuries, it's not unreasonable to ask the guy to get in the work-outs so there's less risk of an injury.
There are always a few players that like to work-out on their own, such as the case with Portis and Springs. But teams don't appreciate that and Portis HAS been at Redskins Park the past two off-seasons working out. So Portis has made the effort. And they've done the same with AH, as they included the work-out clause in his contract.
The flap is reminiscent of last year, when Taylor clashed with the Miami Dolphins for competing in "Dancing With the Stars" rather than working out with the team in the offseason. Taylor finished second to Kristi Yamaguchi on the reality television show, then was shipped by the Dolphins to the Redskins.
Wasn't this a similar problem Parcel's had with Taylor? I'm sure Parcel's didn't care if Taylor likes to dance or enters competitions. But when that player skips off-season work-outs and programs and is away from the team, it isn't looked upon favorably in this era of the NFL.
These days, it's a year-round profession. These guys are paid top dollar and it's not unreasonable to ask these guys to work-out and get treatment at the team facilities with the teams coaches and trainers. And further, especially in Taylor's case, with his hefty salary, injuries and a lack of production due to those injuries, it's not unreasonable to ask the guy to get in the work-outs so there's less risk of an injury.
There are always a few players that like to work-out on their own, such as the case with Portis and Springs. But teams don't appreciate that and Portis HAS been at Redskins Park the past two off-seasons working out. So Portis has made the effort. And they've done the same with AH, as they included the work-out clause in his contract.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:35 pm
SkinsFreak wrote:Thanks Fios.The flap is reminiscent of last year, when Taylor clashed with the Miami Dolphins for competing in "Dancing With the Stars" rather than working out with the team in the offseason. Taylor finished second to Kristi Yamaguchi on the reality television show, then was shipped by the Dolphins to the Redskins.
And yet we still sent a 2nd and sixth round pick to Miami
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:38 pm
DEHog wrote:The flap is reminiscent of last year, when Taylor clashed with the Miami Dolphins for competing in "Dancing With the Stars" rather than working out with the team in the offseason. Taylor finished second to Kristi Yamaguchi on the reality television show, then was shipped by the Dolphins to the Redskins.
And yet we still sent a 2nd and sixth round pick to Miami
Do you see anyone here celebrating that fact? There is a lot I don't like about how this went down but let's remember the Taylor move was widely seen as an essential one when they made it.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:43 pm
Fios wrote:DEHog wrote:The flap is reminiscent of last year, when Taylor clashed with the Miami Dolphins for competing in "Dancing With the Stars" rather than working out with the team in the offseason. Taylor finished second to Kristi Yamaguchi on the reality television show, then was shipped by the Dolphins to the Redskins.
And yet we still sent a 2nd and sixth round pick to Miami
Do you see anyone here celebrating that fact? There is a lot I don't like about how this went down but let's remember the Taylor move was widely seen as an essential one when they made it.
But they have less now and they cut him?? I wasn't amoung those who thought getting JT was essential.
I'm sure DS and CO have a plan.....
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:47 pm
DEHog wrote:As for JT after reading that I now have more respect for him!
Really? Use your family as an excuse not to go to work? Yeah, I'd love to spend more time with my family rather than going to work.
Taylor previously didn't have a problem being away from his family for 4 months in Los Angeles to be on a TV show though, did he? So Taylor would rather turn down $8.5M so he could have an extra 25 days with his family and friends. Yeah, that's smart. He could do 4 months in L.A. but can't do 25 days in Virginia.
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:57 pm
SkinsFreak wrote:DEHog wrote:As for JT after reading that I now have more respect for him!
Taylor previously didn't have a problem being away from his family for 4 months in Los Angeles to be on a TV show though, did he? So Taylor would rather turn down $8.5M so he could have an extra 25 days with his family and friends. Yeah, that's smart. He could do 4 months in L.A. but can't do 25 days in Virginia.
I go to work but I have turned down higher paying jobs that have requied travel as to be with my family. Sorry but the jobs will be there in a few years my kids won't be.
He's not refusing to go to work I'm sure he'd have been at all the OTA he just didn't want to redo the contract agree upon last year. The sad part is he probally would have fair better this year with the addition of AH...but so will everyone else....I think we can agree there was a bit more to this don't u think??
I bet he gets double digit sacks next year!!
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:17 pm
DEHog wrote:SkinsFreak wrote:DEHog wrote:As for JT after reading that I now have more respect for him!
Taylor previously didn't have a problem being away from his family for 4 months in Los Angeles to be on a TV show though, did he? So Taylor would rather turn down $8.5M so he could have an extra 25 days with his family and friends. Yeah, that's smart. He could do 4 months in L.A. but can't do 25 days in Virginia.
I go to work but I have turned down higher paying jobs that have requied travel as to be with my family. Sorry but the jobs will be there in a few years my kids won't be.
He's not refusing to go to work I'm sure he'd have been at all the OTA he just didn't want to redo the contract agree upon last year. The sad part is he probally would have fair better this year with the addition of AH...but so will everyone else....I think we can agree there was a bit more to this don't u think??
I bet he gets double digit sacks next year!!
Taylor didn't turn down a job, he was already employed by the Redskins. Due to his injuries and the size of his contract, they simply asked him to spend 25 days in a work-out program that all players are asked to be a part of. He refused to do what his current employer asked him to do. But again I ask, he had no problem spending four months away from his family to be in L.A., did he?
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:46 pm
My current employer of 18 years just changed my hours from 6:30am-3:00pm to 7-3:30pm without bothering to ask what I thought about it...and I drive 105 miles one way to get there.
Pardon me if I can't sympathize with JT, but where I come from...whoever signs the check makes the rules. Period.
Pardon me if I can't sympathize with JT, but where I come from...whoever signs the check makes the rules. Period.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:13 am
This is just semantics on the Redskins part. They offer him 500k for a contract stipulation that they knew Taylor would refuse. I just don't understand why the front office didn't make this move a lot sooner, preferably before the start of free agency. Since the higher end free agents are pretty much gone, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a trade to help the d/o line or line backing corps.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:14 am
What a waste of two draft picks. Add in the 7th that we used for Erasmus James and we traded three draft picks for 3.5 sacks.