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SkinsFreak wrote:No, I don't think the dropped passes hurt him. As Zorn recently said, it's merely about a numbers game with regard to the 53-man roster limit on Sundays...

Yes, Zorn has choice between him and Fred. If Kelly hadn't been dropping passes and was making a contribution I'm sure that Fred would continue to sit. He wouldn't sit Malcom if he had proved himself at this point to be a viable asset.

SkinsFreak wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Looks like Kelly will be deactivated for 2 weeks in a row now... Those dropped passes must have hurt him.

No, I don't think the dropped passes hurt him. As Zorn recently said, it's merely about a numbers game with regard to the 53-man roster limit on Sundays...

Redskins.com wrote:Zorn also acknowledged bluntly that it more or less comes down to a numbers game each week between Malcolm Kelly and Fred Davis. Davis is more likely to play this week, unless an injury opens up a spot to activate Kelly.

Three TEs active when they bring Alexander in for jumbo packages? I'm not seeing it.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Looks like Kelly will be deactivated for 2 weeks in a row now... Those dropped passes must have hurt him.

No, I don't think the dropped passes hurt him. As Zorn recently said, it's merely about a numbers game with regard to the 53-man roster limit on Sundays...

Redskins.com wrote:Zorn also acknowledged bluntly that it more or less comes down to a numbers game each week between Malcolm Kelly and Fred Davis. Davis is more likely to play this week, unless an injury opens up a spot to activate Kelly.

Three TEs active when they bring Alexander in for jumbo packages? I'm not seeing it.

Well, there's a lot more that go's into it than just that. ey and Davis are pass catchers and TE's split out wide quite often in this offense, so I do see it. The game plan has a lot to do with it as well. It's not always about jumbo TE packages for the run game. Also, Davis needs some game time under his belt for evaluation purposes, so I'd play him too. Kelly needs this as well, I know, but I really believe they want to see what Davis can do in game situations and keeping Kelly injury free at this point is not such a bad idea. Also, I believe everyone is healthy and back playing, so I agree with Zorn that it's merely a numbers game.

But Zorn said that he's not simply going to bench people to give rookies more playing time and that he's out to win every single game as if they were in the playoff hunt.

So to me that means, he's playing the guys that he feels can contribute. He choose Davis over Kelly and I believe the reason is because Kelly has yet to contribute.

If Thomas was the person dropping passes, he'd be on the bench. Davis and Kelly would be playing Sunday.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:So to me that means, he's playing the guys that he feels can contribute. He choose Davis over Kelly and I believe the reason is because Kelly has yet to contribute.

I'm not saying there isn't any truth to that theory, but if that's the case, Davis has yet to contribute as well. In fact, he's had far less opportunities than Kelly. But also, Thomas has made quite a few mistakes too (see below) and I think Kelly has been the one to impress the coaches the most in practice, where these guys get the most reps together.

With their offense sputtering during the first half last Sunday against Cincinnati, the Washington Redskins turned to rookie wide receiver Devin Thomas. Needing four yards on third down, quarterback Jason Campbell threw a short pass to Thomas, but he ran the route incorrectly and dropped the ball.

"With that route, yeah, I was short on it and I didn't" make the catch, Thomas said Wednesday before practice at Redskins Park. "It all comes down to them, the coaches, trusting that you're going to be where you're supposed to be and then making the most out of your opportunities when you get them. On that one, I didn't do that."

SkinsFreak wrote:I'm not saying there isn't any truth to that theory, but if that's the case, Davis has yet to contribute as well. In fact, he's had far less opportunities than Kelly. But also, Thomas has made quite a few mistakes too (see below) and I think Kelly has been the one to impress the coaches the most in practice, where these guys get the most reps together.

"Forget" (you all know what I wanted to say) practice. That darned redskins blog says they look great in practice and then they go out week in-week out and lay a darned egg.

During game day...
Who do you see fighting and ripping for extra yards? Thomas.
Who makes catches? Thomas.
Who has dropped many of their few passes? Kelly.
Has Kelly broken a tackle? No.
Has he used his height to his advantage? Yes but he dropped it.

It's that simple.

In fact, he's[Davis] had far less opportunities than Kelly.

Kelly's been and unable to practice for a significant portion of the year, so the fact that Davis hasn't been able to get on the field reflects on his own ability to grasp the offesne, among other things, in this theory. Comparing on field to available games, Davis has had a higher percentage of opportunity.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:I'm not saying there isn't any truth to that theory, but if that's the case, Davis has yet to contribute as well. In fact, he's had far less opportunities than Kelly. But also, Thomas has made quite a few mistakes too (see below) and I think Kelly has been the one to impress the coaches the most in practice, where these guys get the most reps together.

"Forget" (you all know what I wanted to say) practice. That darned redskins blog says they look great in practice and then they go out week in-week out and lay a darned egg.

During game day...
Who do you see fighting and ripping for extra yards? Thomas.
Who makes catches? Thomas.
Who has dropped many of their few passes? Kelly.
Has Kelly broken a tackle? No.
Has he used his height to his advantage? Yes but he dropped it.

It's that simple.

Damn dude, you missed the most the point entirely. I DON'T CARE ABOUT PRACTICE EITHER! THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

I highlighted the part you seemed to have missed.

I actually like what I see from Davis, especially the way he runs and the physicality he shows while the ball is in his hands. But he has made mistakes too.

The reason why I mentioned practice is because that's where these guys get a multitude of reps, side-by-side, 4-5 days a week. Therefore, there's more visual evidence from practice for the coaches to go on when making their evaluations. The fact is, due to Kelly's injuries and being inactive for the previously mentioned numbers game, there simply isn't enough game-time evidence for fans to make a realistic and fair judgment. Therefore, I give the coaches the benefit of the doubt with regard to their comments and decisions, since they've seen these guys run routes, side-by-side, 100 times a week in practice.