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This OFFENSE cannot score. It won't change this season and I seriously doubt that we will make the playoffs.

- Nobody can complain about the defense, they gave our chump offense 2 picks and they did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with it. AGAIN!

- Why did they wait till the end of the game to go deep?!?!

- James Thrash? Garbage. Doesn't get open.

- ARE? Garbage, needs a lot of time to get open. Gets 0 YAC. Terrible on PR.

* sigh *

chiefhog44 wrote:Does anyone think our d plays a LOT better without Jason Taylor? Seemed like they ran at him all night

They held the Cowboys to 14 points with our offense doing NOTHING! The defense shouldn't even be mentioned except that the offense owes them an apology

we need haynesworth
we need haynesworth
we need haynesworth

we need alot more than him though. Our offense is freakin brutal, especially with as much money as we are paying them

RayNAustin wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:Does anyone think our d plays a LOT better without Jason Taylor? Seemed like they ran at him all night

They held the Cowboys to 14 points with our offense doing NOTHING! The defense shouldn't even be mentioned except that the offense owes them an apology

agree...

Say anything negative about the defense should be a bannable offense for the next 48 hours. LOL

Thundersloth wrote:

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:also, it is pathetic when it appears that the senile madden knows how to call plays better for the O than JZ does... early on, they kept running screens, but as madden pointed out, the redskins had yet to throw the ball deep, to spread the D out... yet, JZ kept going to this play...

Well, Madden might have been tipped off to that by the fact that everyone knows that we haven't had a vertical offensive passing game the past 3 or 4 weeks...and by weeks I mean SEASONS.

Zorn seemed to say that the reason they had to so this was to keep the quarterback upright. They had a ton of preasure.

He is now saying that our d-line, and o-line did not have any preasure and didn't prevent it. Pretty much sums it up.

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:TTiT?? sorry, what is that, not sure??

that team in texas

RayNAustin wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:Does anyone think our d plays a LOT better without Jason Taylor? Seemed like they ran at him all night

They held the Cowboys to 14 points with our offense doing NOTHING! The defense shouldn't even be mentioned except that the offense owes them an apology

Can't blame the defense for the loss but something has to be done about our PATHETIC pass rush. We had ZERO sacks tonight and got virtually no pressure on Romo. On that touchdown pass he had all day to throw.

RayNAustin wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:Does anyone think our d plays a LOT better without Jason Taylor? Seemed like they ran at him all night

They held the Cowboys to 14 points with our offense doing NOTHING! The defense shouldn't even be mentioned except that the offense owes them an apology

Agreed with you here. NOT on the defense.

chiefhog44 wrote:

Thundersloth wrote:

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:also, it is pathetic when it appears that the senile madden knows how to call plays better for the O than JZ does... early on, they kept running screens, but as madden pointed out, the redskins had yet to throw the ball deep, to spread the D out... yet, JZ kept going to this play...

Well, Madden might have been tipped off to that by the fact that everyone knows that we haven't had a vertical offensive passing game the past 3 or 4 weeks...and by weeks I mean SEASONS.

Zorn seemed to say that the reason they had to so this was to keep the quarterback upright. They had a ton of preasure.

He is now saying that our d-line, and o-line did not have any preasure and didn't prevent it. Pretty much sums it up.

Also said that there were some BIG things downfield that we were not able to go after because of the o-line troubles

CanesSkins26 wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:Does anyone think our d plays a LOT better without Jason Taylor? Seemed like they ran at him all night

They held the Cowboys to 14 points with our offense doing NOTHING! The defense shouldn't even be mentioned except that the offense owes them an apology

Can't blame the defense for the loss but something has to be done about our PATHETIC pass rush. We had ZERO sacks tonight and got virtually no pressure on Romo. On that touchdown pass he had all day to throw.

Pass rush doesn't score points... So what if we did have a pass rush? So what? They'd just beat us by 1 point...

Who the heck cares about the defense at this point. Score a freaking TD!

chiefhog44 wrote:

Thundersloth wrote:

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:also, it is pathetic when it appears that the senile madden knows how to call plays better for the O than JZ does... early on, they kept running screens, but as madden pointed out, the redskins had yet to throw the ball deep, to spread the D out... yet, JZ kept going to this play...

Well, Madden might have been tipped off to that by the fact that everyone knows that we haven't had a vertical offensive passing game the past 3 or 4 weeks...and by weeks I mean SEASONS.

Zorn seemed to say that the reason they had to so this was to keep the quarterback upright. They had a ton of preasure.

He is now saying that our d-line, and o-line did not have any preasure and didn't prevent it. Pretty much sums it up.

yeah, that does sum it up... at least he has an excuse for making madden look more in tune with the game than he is...

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Say anything negative about the defense should be a bannable offense for the next 48 hours. LOL

A-Freakin-Men

Hoss wrote:

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:TTiT?? sorry, what is that, not sure??

that team in texas

haha, thanks, never seen/heard that before...

PulpExposure wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:Does anyone think our d plays a LOT better without Jason Taylor? Seemed like they ran at him all night

They held the Cowboys to 14 points with our offense doing NOTHING! The defense shouldn't even be mentioned except that the offense owes them an apology

Agreed with you here. NOT on the defense.

Not putting it on the defense. Just made an observation that I think we play better without Taylor...especially on runs. That's all my man

- James Thrash? Garbage. Doesn't get open.

- ARE? Garbage, needs a lot of time to get open. Gets 0 YAC. Terrible on PR.

Our receivers (except for Moss) are a joke. They were a joke last year and look even worse this year. Thomas looks clueless and despite it only being his first season, he is seriously starting to look like a bust. He has shown nothing to indicate that he has the ability to turn into a productive player. Kelly has been hurt so it's hard to blame him. Still have no idea why we drafted Fred Davis.

zorn coming up on ESPN for anyone who has not heard/seen him yet after the game...

We have no offense, I dont know why we dont go out of the shotgun more offen, There is no way we are a playoff team

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:Does anyone think our d plays a LOT better without Jason Taylor? Seemed like they ran at him all night

They held the Cowboys to 14 points with our offense doing NOTHING! The defense shouldn't even be mentioned except that the offense owes them an apology

Can't blame the defense for the loss but something has to be done about our PATHETIC pass rush. We had ZERO sacks tonight and got virtually no pressure on Romo. On that touchdown pass he had all day to throw.

Pass rush doesn't score points... So what if we did have a pass rush? So what? They'd just beat us by 1 point...

Who the heck cares about the defense at this point. Score a freaking TD!

Apparently Zorn cares about the lack of a pass rush because he just made a comment about it in his press conference. The defense obviously doesn't take the blame for this but we have had a problem with the pass rush for a LONG time and nothing has changed.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

- James Thrash? Garbage. Doesn't get open.

- ARE? Garbage, needs a lot of time to get open. Gets 0 YAC. Terrible on PR.

Our receivers (except for Moss) are a joke. They were a joke last year and look even worse this year. Thomas looks clueless and despite it only being his first season, he is seriously starting to look like a bust. He has shown nothing to indicate that he has the ability to turn into a productive player. Kelly has been hurt so it's hard to blame him. Still have no idea why we drafted Fred Davis.

THomas was decent, he did have a crucial drop though.

We have given up 10 sacks in the past two games. That is an embarrassment.

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:

Thundersloth wrote:

JCaptMorgan12 wrote:also, it is pathetic when it appears that the senile madden knows how to call plays better for the O than JZ does... early on, they kept running screens, but as madden pointed out, the redskins had yet to throw the ball deep, to spread the D out... yet, JZ kept going to this play...

Well, Madden might have been tipped off to that by the fact that everyone knows that we haven't had a vertical offensive passing game the past 3 or 4 weeks...and by weeks I mean SEASONS.

true... but in weeks past, we have at least completed a pass 15-20 yards before we tried that play... tonight, nothing... it is pathetic... not sure what to address in the offseason, O-line, d-line, one of those... hopefully colt brennan will be able to show something in the offseason, because JC is NOT the answer...

I thought O-line and D-line should have been on the "front burner" this past offseason but we chose to draft in a different direction, including a punter that is no longer with the team. The only rookie making a positive contribution is Horton. Kelly always hurt, Thomas can't pick up the offense. Davis is the most interesting of our first 3 picks, I keep hearing good things about him in practice but it has yet to be seen on the field.

Our free agent pick ups and trades don't appear to be too good except for Hall who paid immediately. Erasmus James, Shaun Alexander, Jason Taylor are not exactly play makers for this team.

CanesSkins26 wrote:Apparently Zorn cares about the lack of a pass rush because he just made a comment about it in his press conference. The defense obviously doesn't take the blame for this but we have had a problem with the pass rush for a LONG time and nothing has changed.

I don't care what Zorn cares about. Maybe he should be focusing on his offense's inability to score. You don't get points for sacks.

We had enough of a rush to get two interceptions, what did Zorn's offense do with it? Nothing...

What did they do with it against the Steelers? Nothing...

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

- James Thrash? Garbage. Doesn't get open.

- ARE? Garbage, needs a lot of time to get open. Gets 0 YAC. Terrible on PR.

Our receivers (except for Moss) are a joke. They were a joke last year and look even worse this year. Thomas looks clueless and despite it only being his first season, he is seriously starting to look like a bust. He has shown nothing to indicate that he has the ability to turn into a productive player. Kelly has been hurt so it's hard to blame him. Still have no idea why we drafted Fred Davis.

THomas was decent, he did have a crucial drop though.

He dropped an easy ball that would've given us a first down. He has made zero positive plays as a receiver thus far.

redskindave wrote:We have no offense, I dont know why we dont go out of the shotgun more offen, There is no way we are a playoff team

yes, JC wanted this, it worked early, and now they have gotten away from it... obviously they need to change to approach, not to fit the QB better, but to fit the o-line better... 3rd and 5+ yards, and we were under center???