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DaSkins24 wrote:“We didn’t deserve it, but the Titans in the playoffs?” he said. “Tampa Bay? The Redskins! You can’t tell me we couldn’t beat the damn Redskins.” - Braylon Edwards

maybe if you catch the ball you bum, you team would have won

funsho2 wrote:we sucked today again....lets treat this as a loss....we need to wallop detroit to go 6-2

overstatement of the year....

this is not the bcs, you dont need any pretty wins, just wins.....

in the NFL an ugly win is still a win and you dont give them back

People, people, please ...

The Brown were early favourites to win their Division this year. They have talented players and a good coaching staff. You are underestimating a team that put the Superbowl Champions on their knees last week. This could have been another loss easily for us.

Do not underestimate the merit of this win. They were hot, confident and sure they would win here. We broke their backs yesterday and they have a big job to regroup and catch up with their rivals in their Division. They still might end up with a winning record in this crazy NFL if they keep playing hard.

It was a great win but I was not surprised about how close it was.

I am not down on the game like everyone else. Bottom line is that we scored when we had to score, we stopped them when we had to stop them, and we generally controlled the clock and the tempof the game more than the Browns.

The Redskins always win some games that nobody expects them to win and lose some games that nobody expects them to lose. Playing the NFC East, it is hard to maintain intensity outside the division. We got a W today and came through when we had to.

Hail Redskins.

We are the Washington Redskins and this is the NFL

The Washington Redskins seem to be involved in games that come down to the very end and have you sitting on the edge of your seat more than any other team.

The NFL's mantra is "parity" and entertainment - how interesting would it be if we were back to the 70's and 80's style of football where there were a few good teams, a lot of middle of the road team and a few bad teams? The NFL has got to love the fact that "on any given Sunday" you can watch the Browns defeat the giants, the Raiders beat the Jets and the Dolphins beat the Patriots ... but best of all - the undefeated Patriots lose to the giants.

Teams that are far better than others are losing games and teams that are not competitive are being given games by far better teams - this is a bona fide market made in heaven for advertisers and that is where most of the NFL revenue is coming from.


There is no way to predict an outcome of an NFL based solely on the relevant basics - this team stops the run and that team has the most potent offense - this year it is about when you are scheduled to play certain teams and how healthy they are on that week.


Welcome to reality - the Washington Redskins will lose games they are meant to win and win games that they do everything they can on the field to lose that is who we are.

the NFL owners and FO people are just loving it

I know we lost to the winless Rams, but we kept it close, unlike say the thrashing that the 'Pukes took from them yesterday. Remember, the 'Pukes were supposed to be the greatest team in football and got spanked hard by the Rams. Sure, sure you can say it's because they didn't have Tony Romo, but Brad Johnson is generally regarded as "no slouch" at QB. He certainly looked like a slouch versus the Rams.

And yes, I know the Redskins barely beat the Browns yesterday, but these are the same Browns that had just finished laying the lumber to the NY Giants on MNF. You remember the defending Superbowl Champs and current kings of the NFC? A Giants team known for their stingy defense; They lost to this Browns team 35-14.

The Redskins didn't play great, sure, but they really didn't play all that bad. There biggest mistake was the Clinton Portis fumble that allowed the Browns back into the game.

Sure the game wasn't terribly exciting for the first three quarters, but in the end the team that should have won did win.

I ain't mad at that.

The passing offense is stalling out a bit.

James Thrash continues to confuse me. LOL What is his role? I hear Zorn rave about his route running but he does absolute zilch in the games. If I"m noticing it, the DC's must notice it.

We need some more production out of the 3rd WR. We need to get Thomas on the field.... But sadly, he's a loose cannon and I can't say I don't agree with Zorn reining him back a bit.

Hopefully Kelly's knee is behaving itself.

SkinsJock wrote:but best of all - the undefeated Patriots lose to the giants.

Definitely the best of all!

Chris Luva Luva wrote:The passing offense is stalling out a bit.

Supposedly, JC tweaked his groin during the game yesterday (2nd quarter, I believe), and couldn't plant to throw well. Instead of replacing him, Zorn just went more conservative in the game plan.

PulpExposure wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:The passing offense is stalling out a bit.

Supposedly, JC tweaked his groin during the game yesterday (2nd quarter, I believe), and couldn't plant to throw well. Instead of replacing him, Zorn just went more conservative in the game plan.

Zorn, in fact, told Doc Walker at the half that he was planning to keep the ball on the ground in the 2nd half (without saying anything about JC or an injury). He said that, with the defense playing lights-out, he didn't feel a need to score a lot of points.

Unfortunately, even a lights-out defense needs to rest once in a while... and that means you need to get first downs at the end of the game.

PulpExposure wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:The passing offense is stalling out a bit.

Supposedly, JC tweaked his groin during the game yesterday (2nd quarter, I believe), and couldn't plant to throw well. Instead of replacing him, Zorn just went more conservative in the game plan.

Yeah, I noticed that. But they were stalling out a bit last week too. I'm sure it'll get back on track.

What's awesome is... Defenses can start to pay CP more attention but they know they'll get burnt for it sooner later. That's a good feeling to have.

ChocolateMilk wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:Teams aren't going to be perfect every game. What matters is that we pulled out the win. In previous years we probably lose this game. The Browns are not as bad as some people make them out to be and in the end a W is a W. My only real complaint is the pass rush, which continues to flat out suck.

it was better this game, they only had 1 sack but they how many times did we knock anderson down? how many times did we hurry a pass? how many times did we knock down a pass?

I agree. I'm kinda getting tired of the D-Line sucked routine. You judge a D-Line by a lot more than just sacks, and this D-line is doing a bunch of good things. 1) They are totally shutting down the run each week, and 2) I've never seen so many balls batted and deflected at the line than what we're seeing this year. Plus, they are producing a lot of hurries which is contributing to the good secondary play.

How on earth can you criticize a d-line that puts up such incredible play as the back to back goal line stands. After 7 plays inside the 2, the Browns finally got a pass into the end zone.

With the injuries we have, this defense is flat out strong, and you cannot have a strong defense without great play at the line. It's simply impossible.

Better that we talk about the inconsistency in the passing game, which really does SUCK, considering how well Portis is running the ball. With this running game, we should be scoring a ton of points, and not forcing our defense to hold teams virtually scoreless in order to win.

Portis, Fletcher, Rogers, and Horton were great Rocky Mac played well also... our D'line is consistent (no pressure week in and week out)... was it just me or was that the most conservative play calling since the Giants game?

USAFSkinFan wrote:Portis, Fletcher, Rogers, and Horton were great Rocky Mac played well also... our D'line is consistent (no pressure week in and week out)... was it just me or was that the most conservative play calling since the Giants game?

Last week was pretty conservative...

Countertrey wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:The passing offense is stalling out a bit.

Supposedly, JC tweaked his groin during the game yesterday (2nd quarter, I believe), and couldn't plant to throw well. Instead of replacing him, Zorn just went more conservative in the game plan.

Zorn, in fact, told Doc Walker at the half that he was planning to keep the ball on the ground in the 2nd half (without saying anything about JC or an injury). He said that, with the defense playing lights-out, he didn't feel a need to score a lot of points.

Unfortunately, even a lights-out defense needs to rest once in a while... and that means you need to get first downs at the end of the game.

but it was on the ground the 1st 1/2 as well.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:The passing offense is stalling out a bit.

Supposedly, JC tweaked his groin during the game yesterday (2nd quarter, I believe), and couldn't plant to throw well. Instead of replacing him, Zorn just went more conservative in the game plan.

Zorn, in fact, told Doc Walker at the half that he was planning to keep the ball on the ground in the 2nd half (without saying anything about JC or an injury). He said that, with the defense playing lights-out, he didn't feel a need to score a lot of points.

Unfortunately, even a lights-out defense needs to rest once in a while... and that means you need to get first downs at the end of the game.

but it was on the ground the 1st 1/2 as well.

Not sure what your point is... the fact that he said he is going to "keep the ball on the ground" sort of acknowledges that it was that way in the first half as well. All this says is that the decision to run was made early in the game.

He tweaked it early on in the game if I remember correctly....

Initially, I thought he must have been racked on that play, but after the replay you could see he never got hit. I thought maybe his cup (no relation to Fios) had shifted badly and something got caught in a bind.

JSPB22 wrote:Initially, I thought he must have been racked on that play, but after the replay you could see he never got hit. I thought maybe his cup (no relation to Fios) had shifted badly and something got caught in a bind.

I think I read that it was something about his cleat getting lodged or something. Yeah, it happened early on.

Yeah, I saw the play, he dropped back and planted awkwardly. He looked like he'd pulled something.

I figured we'd see Collins before the half, but then he made a big play, so I can see why Zorn stuck with him.

It is going to take a lot more than that sort of injury to get Campbell out of there - this guy is just begining a really good career - Collins is just a back up

i expected it too be tough and it was just glad clinto continued his running ways and i would like to see zorm open it up a little more and be more aggresive...he pretty much kept the browns in the game by running it for three straight plays down toward the end of the game ..that portis fumble did n,t help but the 175 yrds did..

i,ll take the result W but we were in a position to ice the game at 14-3..


a win is a win in this crazy league.

PMG12569 wrote:Also how about London, I have to say that is the best free agent signing in the history of the franchise.

That honor easily goes to Slingin' Sammy Baugh. I'd also put Wilbur Marshall above London on a list of the franchise's best FA acquisitions.