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1fan4ramsey wrote:

LOSTHOG wrote:

Kruncher wrote:I just don't think he is a dominant receiver and we won't get the production out of him that we did his first year here. When the TE has more yards and TDs, its a problem.

The TE is a big part of Al's offense. Ever heard of Tony Gonzalez??

was he an actor?........................just kidding, good point

ey is awesome. I don't think it is a slight against anyone that doesn't have the same amount of catches. Moss had a strong last 4 games when he got healthy. He will be fine.

I agree that the TE is a big part of Saunders offense, bu the Saunders offense gets more people the ball for more yards, to include WRs and RBs. I think Moss can be our number receiver but we need a bigger receiver that can be a play maker.

RayNAustin wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:IMO Santana Moss is absolutely the goat of this game.

Mostly the O-line, as I've never seen a worse performance, ever, in 40 plus years.

That's a little bit of an overstatement, don't you think?

hmn, I remember a similar discussion on BLoyd. Tana gave up on the play, I thought that they teach you NEVER to give up on the play from peanut league to NFL... We can say we ran out of "21 Magic" but we all know we still had plenty of it before that pick 6. But it's all over now, they played with passion that was lacking when we slid 0-4 I'm very proud of this team, and the Rookie is proving himself much like #21 did . All in all this was a good season, great season all things considered.

Kruncher wrote:

LOSTHOG wrote:

Kruncher wrote:No, I am not kidding, he has not lived up to his first year in DC. We have gotten rid of players far better than him.

WHO????

Should have never got rid of Keenan McCardell for starters.

And we had Monk, Sanders, and Clark. McCardell was injured the entire year still got a ring and released. Why would we have known he would turn into such a productive receiver? Looking back I wish we would have kept him but we don't have that luxury. If that was the case we would undraft Heath Shuler.

spudstr04 wrote:

Kruncher wrote:

LOSTHOG wrote:

Kruncher wrote:No, I am not kidding, he has not lived up to his first year in DC. We have gotten rid of players far better than him.

WHO????

Should have never got rid of Keenan McCardell for starters.

Are you on drugs, McCardell was a backup to Monk, Sanders, and Clark when he came up...we didn't need him....YOU are just mad that we lost and trying to win an argument that you WILL NOT win

I am not trying to win any point or argument. I am just stating that giving up on play says alot about the kind of player that he is...solid but not good or great.

Here's what I learned from this game and the season:

1. Landry is a beast and I can't wait to see him next season
2. We have a solid back-up QB and he should be re-signed for stablility
3. Injuries suck!
4. We need secondary depth and O-line depth
5. A taller WR would be nice
6. Joe Gibbs knows how to coach and motivate
7. I am proud to be a Redskins fan after the heart that I saw from tht team over the past 5 weeks

Is it time to put away all my Redskins paraphernalia?

NO WAY........... Skins Fan All Year Round......

Skinsfan55 wrote:

LOSTHOG wrote:

1fan4ramsey wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:IMO Santana Moss is absolutely the goat of this game.

He gave up on a play that led to a Marcus Trufant interception and touchdown. Sure, Collins shouldn't have thrown that ball, but he made a mistake that would have only resulted in an incompletion with a full effort by Moss.

Santana Moss got lazy and gave 7 points (and all the game's momentum) to the Seahawks.

Moss is the one who should be ashamed.

I think it still my have been picked

I don't think Moss saw the ball in time to do anything about it, but he should have still made the tackle

That's just it. Moss GAVE UP on the play and let the ball be picked off. If he continued running his route as planned he would have been in position to fight for the ball.

I think TC threw the ball the wrong way. and SM was open

1fan4ramsey wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:IMO Santana Moss is absolutely the goat of this game.

Mostly the O-line, as I've never seen a worse performance, ever, in 40 plus years.

That's a little bit of an overstatement, don't you think?

I'm only 38 so I can't argue 40 years, but that still sounds a little harsh. It will help us next year that all these backup lineman got so much playing time. Our depth will be soooo much better. However, I still think we need to draft and groom some young blood.

tribeofjudah wrote:Is it time to put away all my Redskins paraphernalia?

NO WAY........... Skins Fan All Year Round......

I just bought a new t-shirt two days ago, I am not putting it up....I am going to wear it sometime this week, I love my Skins!

spudstr04 wrote:Here's what I learned from this game and the season:

1. Landry is a beast and I can't wait to see him next season
2. We have a solid back-up QB and he should be re-signed for stablility
3. Injuries suck!
4. We need secondary depth and O-line depth
5. A taller WR would be nice
6. Joe Gibbs knows how to coach and motivate
7. I am proud to be a Redskins fan after the heart that I saw from tht team over the past 5 weeks

well said

I don't know if TC threw the ball the wrong as much as the wind held it, don't know what the play. All I know is the aftermath was uncalled for and should not have happened. It is just upsetting when I see Moss celebrate after every catch but can't make a play when something bad happens.

Kruncher wrote:I don't know if TC threw the ball the wrong as much as the wind held it, don't know what the play. All I know is the aftermath was uncalled for and should not have happened. It is just upsetting when I see Moss celebrate after every catch but can't make a play when something bad happens.

just get off your high horse and stop raggin on Moss...you are being ridiculous

spudstr04 wrote:

Kruncher wrote:I don't know if TC threw the ball the wrong as much as the wind held it, don't know what the play. All I know is the aftermath was uncalled for and should not have happened. It is just upsetting when I see Moss celebrate after every catch but can't make a play when something bad happens.

just get off your high horse and stop raggin on Moss...you are being ridiculous

Ridiculous is what Moss did and with that I will get off my high horse. Except for approximately 7 minutes of the game we were outplayed anyways. Great season, admire the courage and resolve of the team, and hopefully we can build next year.

Kruncher wrote: It is just upsetting when I see Moss celebrate after every catch but can't make a play when something bad happens.

That's every player anymore. They over celebrate doing what they are paid to do. I don't mind so much if it's a big play, but now it's every play. Not too many guys like Barry Sanders who would just toss the ball to the ref left.

Kruncher wrote:

spudstr04 wrote:

Kruncher wrote:I don't know if TC threw the ball the wrong as much as the wind held it, don't know what the play. All I know is the aftermath was uncalled for and should not have happened. It is just upsetting when I see Moss celebrate after every catch but can't make a play when something bad happens.

just get off your high horse and stop raggin on Moss...you are being ridiculous

Ridiculous is what Moss did and with that I will get off my high horse. Except for approximately 7 minutes of the game we were outplayed anyways. Great season, admire the courage and resolve of the team, and hopefully we can build next year.

okay we found something we can agree on....it was a great season

1fan4ramsey wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:IMO Santana Moss is absolutely the goat of this game.

Mostly the O-line, as I've never seen a worse performance, ever, in 40 plus years.

That's a little bit of an overstatement, don't you think?

No. Not even close. Collins had someone in his face before he could even finish his drop back.

And 2 yards per cary on the ground means they couldn't run block either.

Worst o-line performance I've ever seen. Period. They were totally and completely manhandled right from the first play.

Had Campbell been in there, we would have been shut out.

spudstr04 wrote:

tribeofjudah wrote:Is it time to put away all my Redskins paraphernalia?

NO WAY........... Skins Fan All Year Round......

I just bought a new t-shirt two days ago, I am not putting it up....I am going to wear it sometime this week, I love my Skins!

I think about all of my t-shirts are Redskins. If I can wear them when we win, I can wear them when we lose. I'm in Panther country so all these guys know I'm a Skins fan. There is no way to hide from a loss. You actually get more respect from other teams fans when you still wear you gear after a loss.

LOSTHOG wrote:

spudstr04 wrote:

tribeofjudah wrote:Is it time to put away all my Redskins paraphernalia?

NO WAY........... Skins Fan All Year Round......

I just bought a new t-shirt two days ago, I am not putting it up....I am going to wear it sometime this week, I love my Skins!

I think about all of my t-shirts are Redskins. If I can wear them when we win, I can wear them when we lose. I'm in Panther country so all these guys know I'm a Skins fan. There is no way to hide from a loss. You actually get more respect from other teams fans when you still wear you gear after a loss.

tell me about it, everydown here is a dang panthers fan, all i hear about is steve smith this and peppers that, when I try to talk Skins...i hear Deadskins this and that....well, at least we made the playoffs...i'll be wearing my skins stuff until I die.

I think our secondary played well today. Except for the one dropped coverage by Prioleau (again). These guys played man up all game.

I thought the team played well tonight, early on I thought twe were in trouble, but realized that I know this is how Joe coaches a game, just keep hanging around, after the kick recovery, I too thought things were looking good, only in ey had somehow got his hands under that 1st down play, 1 and Goal from the 2 would have been nice. I think that TC being in there the last couple weeks will ultimatley help JC, actually watching more of this offence from the field level and how things break down will be good for him.

This team always keeps me on the edge of my seat week in week out(except the pats game:) )

Im looking forward to watching our progression throught the Off Season and draft leading into camp and Kickoff 2008.

This team showed alot of heart and determination with all the emotions they went throught, hats off to a hard fought season Redskins!!!!

This one hurt. They showed a "never quit" attitude the whole game.( ints. not included)What a great run! Made me proud to be a Skins fan.

I look foward to next season, and the hope of shedding no more tears for this team.

JC will come back healthy and with some good game time experience.

Hope the injury bug stays away next season, and the team can build on this playoff run!

WAY TO GO WASHINGTON REDSKINS...Man I love this team!!!!

R I P #21

Let's all take a break and watch the rest of the AFC game and then come back after we calm down a little.

spudstr04 wrote:

Kruncher wrote:I don't know if TC threw the ball the wrong as much as the wind held it, don't know what the play. All I know is the aftermath was uncalled for and should not have happened. It is just upsetting when I see Moss celebrate after every catch but can't make a play when something bad happens.

just get off your high horse and stop raggin on Moss...you are being ridiculous

I'm a big Moss fan, but he quit on that play, and it is inexcusable. I was SCREAMING at the TV screen, and he deserves grief for that total lack of effort.