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REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I doubt that most people wanted to feel tired for work...

That's a load of crap! If we expect them to "leave it all out on the field", then we should at least be equally as vocal in our support, ESPECIALLY when you've paid a high price to get there.

If you're worried about being tired the next day, pass your ticket on to a real fan.

It's not just feeling tired for work the next day. A lot of people that were at the game spent most of Thursday at work, getting their kids ready for school, driving kids around, sitting in traffic in the morning and then once again for the game, etc. Plus I'm sure there wasn't as much tailgating as there usually would be on a Sunday with some people not being able to get to the game as early as they normally would.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I doubt that most people wanted to feel tired for work...

That's a load of crap! If we expect them to "leave it all out on the field", then we should at least be equally as vocal in our support, ESPECIALLY when you've paid a high price to get there.

If you're worried about being tired the next day, pass your ticket on to a real fan.

This post is nonsense. For starters, the players are paid millions of dollars to play football so your argument about leaving it all on the field is pure garbage.

Secondly, being concerned about your job, which pays the bills and supports your family, doesn't make someone less of a fan.

I'd have to vote NO. The fans are not pathetic. Many of the people who go to the games are not very enthusiastic or don't know when to cheer/when not to cheer.

These people are not fans however. They are just random people who happen to be going to the game.

Unfortunately what you have is a stadium for 90K, that is usually filled for the most part, but only about 2/3 or so are what I would call true "fans".

Washington is made up of a lot of people from all over the country - I am sure that there are a lot of fans at each game who are "guests" of somebody that can afford the seats because his business pays for them and just lets anyone have them and not necessarily a Redskins fanatic - RFK did not have as many seats and the costs were nowhere near what they are now. That joint was crazy and really loud.

The games I have attended I have been a little disapointed that it is not more noisy or a home crowd sound like you might hear in Seattle but that is part of the price I guess for Danny to have a 92,000 seat stadium with a lot of people who can afford to let anyone go or who take guests that are not as crazy about the game.

I must say that someone who stands in front of you all game long can be a little annoying - I mean noise is part of the game but having a 250Lb guy stand in front of someone the whole game is just rude.

When I leave a game I have lost my voice and will stand a scream whenever I can but I am also cogniscant of the other fans around me.


We are awesome - we are fans of the Washington Redskins


HAIL

Dude- our fans rock the house compared to the freaking 9r fans out here on the left coast. Couple of seasons ago I watched our skins beat the 9rs and the sounds of hail to the Redskins drowned out the hapless whiner fans......You can by fricken Brie at 9r games.......its pathetic

Using 1 game on a cold Thursday night with all that has happened here recently is not that good a yardstick! I think our fans by and large are some of the best and most loyal in the NFL

My only issue and it is really not a major deal is that when we are on defense inside the other teams' 20, with 90,000+ fans screaming, it should be deafening - my point is just that there are quite a large number of fans from both the team we are playing and non-redskins fans at FedEx Field and that percentage is probably higher than any other stadium. I know that at every game around the NFL there are a number of fans from opposing teams at the games BUT in our stadium, with 90,000 + people if the same percentage of home team fans, were Redskin fans, as at most other stadiums - you should not be able to hear - it gets very loud but not enough to cause the number of false starts and QB communication problems like it should - I cannot remember the last time a ref or a QB had problems with the noise at FedEx

I do know that the noise level at a home game around the NFL is always better when the team is playing better - .

Artificial crowd noise anyone? Maybe a stadium (a COVERED stadium) actually IN Washington? Maybe an owner who doesn't charge up ticket and concession prices which in turn caters to the wealthy snooty types who don't want to stand and cheer? Maybe even a consitently successful team? (THAT might just help..) Or maybe our fans really do just suck. I scream and yell and talk a LOT of smack til my voice is gone. Why people don't cheer on their own team on their own turf is beyond me....

Right Chaos!!! If I can afford not to go to work the next day, if my kid is taken care of, if I get tickets to the game.. you best believe I'm gonna be screaming my brains out, yelling curse words (unless kids around) and talking big trash to everyone supporting the other team. That's me though. I'm not pathetic, maybe those snooty types that you named are though because they get those greats seats and aren't really Skins fans to begin with. Dag, I wish my company had those "pretty" seats in the club section but of course I have to get um when I can.

I'm starting to hear the fire again. Thought it had burned out.

If we can get that noise and add those towel's...let me tell you, there's no team that will have it easy in here.

I've posted it before. Steeler fans get credit for being the best because they seem to be everywhere. They're everywhere because people notice them waving those terrible towels, and in Steeler's stadium...it's pandimonium when those things are waving. It creates anxiety for an offense. Go to a game and you'll see. We've got the same type of fans though...and now we have the towels. Use 'em.

I just got 7 in the mail today. I've been waving one since I got home. They look bad ass. They're only 3.99.

chiefhog44 wrote:I'm starting to hear the fire again. Thought it had burned out.

If we can get that noise and add those towel's...let me tell you, there's no team that will have it easy in here.

I've posted it before. Steeler fans get credit for being the best because they seem to be everywhere. They're everywhere because people notice them waving those terrible towels, and in Steeler's stadium...it's pandimonium when those things are waving. It creates anxiety for an offense. Go to a game and you'll see. We've got the same type of fans though...and now we have the towels. Use 'em.

I just got 7 in the mail today. I've been waving one since I got home. They look bad ass. They're only 3.99.

Ok, ok. I'm willing to take personal responsibility for Moss blowing that game with all those dropped passes and a fumble. I don't know what I was thinking.

Did I mention that I played football all through college and can rememember everyone I played with and most I played against, as well as hundreds of plays in games and even practices, but can't remember the crowd's reaction to anything, ever. Too busy playing the game and determined not to get beaten to care about what the fans thought.

I did care a great deal about what the players and coaches on both teams thought, however, but the fans-- never. First of all, they knew almost nothing about what was really going on on the field, and, second, they were wimps, relatively speaking. Their respect was virtually worthless-- a common belief among the people I played with.

Maybe it's different in the pro's. But I still can't imagine Portis worried about me or being inspired by my support. I couldn't have stayed on the field with him on the best day of my life.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I doubt that most people wanted to feel tired for work...

That's a load of crap! If we expect them to "leave it all out on the field", then we should at least be equally as vocal in our support, ESPECIALLY when you've paid a high price to get there.

If you're worried about being tired the next day, pass your ticket on to a real fan.

This post is nonsense. For starters, the players are paid millions of dollars to play football so your argument about leaving it all on the field is pure garbage.

Secondly, being concerned about your job, which pays the bills and supports your family, doesn't make someone less of a fan.

CanesSkins: I only highlighted a part of CLL's quote, so I can see where you might get the wrong impression about my post.

CLL's point was that "fans" not wanting to be tired for work the next day, did not cheer, since cheering would wear them out.

My point was, if you went through all that stuff (including the important points you brought up) just to get to the game, while there, do what you came to do: cheer for the Skins!!!

...especially at crucial points in the game.

crazyhorse1 wrote:Did I mention that I played football all through college and can rememember everyone I played with and most I played against, as well as hundreds of plays in games and even practices, but can't remember the crowd's reaction to anything, ever. Too busy playing the game and determined not to get beaten to care about what the fans thought.

Al Bundy, yes you've told us before.

Where and when did you play? Was it within the last 30 years at a college that had fans at the games? Just curious as to why you continue to mention it.

first win with my ST towel. I'm pretty stoked

I think the fans who drove up from DC for the Giants game, and I met a lot of them, are great.

Can't praise those Giant fans who abandoned their team at the half, or at the end of the 3rd Q.

I agree with Redeemed: if you go to a Redskin game, then cheer like a "classic" RFK crowd.

welch wrote:I think the fans who drove up from DC for the Giants game, and I met a lot of them, are great.

Can't praise those Giant fans who abandoned their team at the half, or at the end of the 3rd Q.

I agree with Redeemed: if you go to a Redskin game, then cheer like a "classic" RFK crowd.

I forgot all about this debate about Redskins fans once I saw the camera pan across the New York crowd with half of a quarter left to play (and the Giants still in it!). There must have only been about 25% of the seats filled!

Not to mention the boo-ing that started with the first mistakes that the Giants made. Incredible. (Not that I minded, because that horrific display by the fans only made it easier for the Redskins to dominate this game!) In this context I can truly say: thank God for NY fans—there's nothing like playing a road game against an essentially neutral crowd.

how pathetic are the Gints fans?

Very pathetic when their team gets behind. Couldn't believe the garbage they screamed at Manning.

The players notice, by the way. Yesterday's NY Daily News carried an interview with a lineman named MacKenzie (relation to the great Raleigh?) telling the fans to support the team. We hear you boo, he said. We back each other when a play goes bad, so why don't the fans?

LOL... and to think, someone started this thread to call us pathetic. I was just real excited to see the Skins fans in the crowd having a great time at the expense of the Gnats.

langleyparkjoe wrote:LOL... and to think, someone started this thread to call us pathetic. I was just real excited to see the Skins fans in the crowd having a great time at the expense of the Gnats.

To be clear, this thread was started to address some lackluster fans at FedEx Field (an observation I have also made), not the fan base in general.

Fios wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:LOL... and to think, someone started this thread to call us pathetic. I was just real excited to see the Skins fans in the crowd having a great time at the expense of the Gnats.

To be clear, this thread was started to address some lackluster fans at FedEx Field (an observation I have also made), not the fan base in general.

Thank you. That's all I was noticing. Nothing against our fan base. Bring those towels to Minnesota! How awesome would that be to see some #21 towels in the crowd.

They're on sale.. Get 'em for the Cowgirls game
http://store.redskins.com/productinfo.a ... 1=624&sn=6

Fios reminded us

To be clear, this thread was started to address some lackluster fans at FedEx Field (an observation I have also made), not the fan base in general.

My one experience at FedEx is that the fans are friendly, good-natured, classy, but a bit quiet. Part of that could be the bungled design of the stadium, although RFK benefited because it was both a baseball park and a football stadium. The grandstand roof tended to reflect all noice back down to the field.

However, FedEx has this strange jumbotron message that tries to tell fans to be loud when the defense is on the field and quiet when the offense is playing.

That should not be necessary, and I wish the fans would crank up some enthusiasm for the offense as well.

As for showing up on a Thursday night, compare the crowd to the Giants Stadium crowd on last Sunday night: about 2/3 full, at most, and about half of those were stupidly drunken 20-year-olds who bought tickets from season-ticket fans. As I mentioned someplace, a real Giants fan apologized to my daughter and me for the steady obscenities, the gang attacks on Redskin fans, and the mass ice-ball throwing at Redskin fans.

They were loud during the few times when the Giants seemed alive, but they turned like snakes.

Would that have happened at FedEx?

I doubt it.

However, I noticed empty seats at Fedex during the Sean Taylor game against the Bills. Should not have happened: that was a special game.

So...my tentative guess is that Fedex holds about 20,000 fans more than it should. Hey, no one but a select few would ever see the team, but I kind of wish they could move back to RFK!

That is, I'd rather increase RFK to maybe 60,000 or 65,000 seats, and have it filled with devoted Redskin fans. A fantasy...impossible, of course...but it used to look great.

chiefhog44 wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:Did I mention that I played football all through college and can rememember everyone I played with and most I played against, as well as hundreds of plays in games and even practices, but can't remember the crowd's reaction to anything, ever. Too busy playing the game and determined not to get beaten to care about what the fans thought.

Al Bundy, yes you've told us before.

Where and when did you play? Was it within the last 30 years at a college that had fans at the games? Just curious as to why you continue to mention it.

No, I didn't play within the last thirty years. We actually played footbal way back in the fifties. It happened at real Universities that had fans at the games who drove to the games in their buggies. I keep mentioning I played because I have a great need to impress kids I don't know and who don't my name.

I bet the atmosphere at Fed Ex is raucous and loud to say the least this week.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:Did I mention that I played football all through college and can rememember everyone I played with and most I played against, as well as hundreds of plays in games and even practices, but can't remember the crowd's reaction to anything, ever. Too busy playing the game and determined not to get beaten to care about what the fans thought.

Al Bundy, yes you've told us before.

Where and when did you play? Was it within the last 30 years at a college that had fans at the games? Just curious as to why you continue to mention it.

No, I didn't play within the last thirty years. We actually played footbal way back in the fifties. It happened at real Universities that had fans at the games who drove to the games in their buggies. I keep mentioning I played because I have a great need to impress kids I don't know and who don't my name.

Your helmets were leather and had no facemasks, right?

welch wrote:So...my tentative guess is that Fedex holds about 20,000 fans more than it should. Hey, no one but a select few would ever see the team, but I kind of wish they could move back to RFK!

That is, I'd rather increase RFK to maybe 60,000 or 65,000 seats, and have it filled with devoted Redskin fans. A fantasy...impossible, of course...but it used to look great.

FedEx does not hold more than it should, the season ticket holders are the issue. I have been on the waiting list for at least 10 years. The passionate fans either cannot get tickets or cannot afford tickets. That is the issue. FedEx was built on corporate dollars, not on the heart of the fan base.

We could have a 110,000 stadium rocking and rolling like some of the larger public universities, but the problem still remains that those who would scream their guts out are not the ones with ownership of the seats.

We live in a different time than the era 1960-1990. Hell, I went to a Baltimore game and next to us a father was on the phone and the son was playing some sort of portable playstation. Sports is unfortunately now more about entertainment and less about passion.