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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:44 pm
by The Hogster
crazyhorse1 wrote:ICEMAN wrote:I cannot believe all of you doubters and naysayers on this pick...
This is truly the best pick at 6 that anyone could ever imagine. You all are probably the same fans who wanted the SKINS to draft Mike Williams a couple of years ago or Kellen Winslow Jr., over Sean Taylor.
I think I trust the people in charge and our head coach to judge talent and what or who would fit in for our ball club.
1inkster said it best..."this is a good pick". Landry is a true beast and will help to form one of the best defensive backfields in history. Many of you all will reap the benefits of this pick and jump on this moving bandwagon when you see him light up opposing defenders or intercept passes at will. You all heard all week long about how our coach, owner and Cerrato state that we would NOT draft on need, but on the best available player. Landry is clearly the best defensive player in the draft. Obviously, our FO was not impressed with any of the defensive tackles or ends to pick at that spot. I personally liked Jamaal Anderson, but even he was not a better pick than that of Landry at that spot. Plus no player is a guarantee anyway...there were fans on this board screaming for us to pick or draft Eramus James or Kenechi Udeze a couple of years back and those two are bubbling busts! Landry is a safe pick and a very good one at that. Besides, you all also heard all week at how Coach Gibbs stated that he was very satisfied and excited about our football team, especially at every position. We are a markedly better defense already with the acquisitions of Fletcher, Macklin, Smoot and Stoutmire (2 prior Redskins), a healthy Springs (who is still a top/elite corner in this league), an impressive Andre Carter, a third year experienced corner in the former Jim Thorpe Award winner, Carlos Rogers, a healthy safety/corner in P.P. And then you throw in Landry who will be devastating in the blitz packages or disguised coverages.
Goldston and Montgomery, are stronger and better, and we will have better attacking ways to generate any type of rush imaginable that includes our fast, attacking LB, McIntosh. Perhaps we will pick up LaVar and that will conclude the making of a number one defense or top three again.
Hail Redskins!!! Great pick!!!
What do you say to the fact that Landry played hardly at all in both his junior and senior years. How can a guy who has at best limited college experience, a history of injury, and horrible stats for the last two years possibly be regarded as a logical or safe pick?
???????? Which Laron Landry are you referring too....LOL
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:46 pm
by ICEMAN
Thanks for researching the stats Crazyhorse
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:47 pm
by The Hogster
Cappster wrote:jeremyroyce wrote:Youn never know. They might start Laundry. But lets have confidence in Joe Gibbs and stop being critical.
Landry will not start. GW will not allow a rookie to start opening day if anything for the simple fact that he wants to humble the player.
He probably won't start until week 3-4, however, we wont be able to tell. He will likely get into games. GW likes to think that his rookies need to progress with their reps...i.e. 10 reps, 15 reps, 18, 20...starting....So while he may not start...I have a hard time believing that he's not in our Nickle and Dime Packages and also some exotic blitz schemes.
I can't wait. This guy is the real deal. I hate to throw the Ronnie Lott name out there, but he's like a cross between Ed Reed and Brian Dawkins in my opinion...but he's a tad bigger than both....its really scary what this guy can do.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:47 pm
by ICEMAN
Hogster...what do you mean???
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:51 pm
by Countertrey
My bad. Researching Landry, I looked at a site that apparently is wrong about Landry's stats and playing time for the last two years. I should have checked further.
Man, I was beginning to think that you were pulling your college football stats from MoveOn.org!
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:51 pm
by ICEMAN
By the way...Landry started 48 games out of 52 for his entire 4 years at LSU...starting as a true Freshman.
He is a BEAST...
Hail Redskins!!!
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:53 pm
by thaiphoon
Man, I was beginning to think that you were pulling your college football stats from MoveOn.org!
ROFLMAO !!!
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:30 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Countertrey wrote:I think the pick is the result of not being satisfied with the offers on the table to trade down... in other words, they refused to give the pick away for less than it was worth. The result was selecting the best player availible...
Countertrey hit the nail in the head today, one day before it appears in the Newspapers and Blogs tomorrow.
We all were on the same page, even the Front Office.
EVERYBODY would have preferred if we could have TRADED DOWN. However, in the absence of an attractive offer, we had to make this pick. Laron Landry was probably the best defensive player available at that spot. It was the SAFEST pick. Only time will tell whether Okoye would have been better for us BUT to be fair, we know that he was in our radar screen at THIS pick and it was a tough choice between both of them in the War Room.
There is no more second guessing. Welcome Laron Landry to the Washington Redskins. We are here to support you.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:39 pm
by JPM36
I will just go on record as saying that Landry himself was a great college player and he should definitely be a great addition to our secondary.
The reason I don't like us picking him is because I felt we had more pressing needs than safety.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:01 pm
by Countertrey
The reason I don't like us picking him is because I felt we had more pressing needs than safety.
I think we all agree. D line is more urgent. The problem is, the team did not feel that the availible defensive linemen were worth the number 6 pick... so, they took the best defensive player on the board.
However, when the middle of the field on the defensive side of the ball becomes a no-man's land for opposing receivers, I think that may take some of the sting away. Have you seen Landry on a blitz? Scarey!
I also heard JG say a few days ago that he feels the D-line problem will be fixed. His interview 2 days ago basically told us that they were likely to take Landry, and that the D-line will be fixed. While this raises my eyebrow in some doubt, I think I will wait a bit to get frustrated...
The FO is showing a new discipline... I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:12 pm
by Mursilis
Countertrey wrote: I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now.
Good advice for all of us. Sure, some of us wanted D-line, but the selection of Landry also addresses a need, and the d-line might still be fine this season, with some of the veterans healed up and younger guys like Golston and Montgomery coming on. Plus, Carter seemed to really pick up at the end of last season, so he may turn into the pass-rushing end we expected him to be when we signed him. Finally, we still have 4 more picks, so who knows - maybe we'll actually get some good luck for a change and find a stud in the late rounds. Chicago found a guy in the 5th round last year (Mark Anderson out of Alabama) who got 12 sacks his rookie year, so maybe we'll come up with a guy like that as well. You never know . . .
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:16 pm
by Gibbs4Life
In gibbs we trust. Landry could be just what are defense needs a spark with dependability.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:36 pm
by HailSkins2007
Finally, most of us see it the same way. Hail Skins !
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:11 pm
by air_hog
This is awesome, I know we really needed a pass rush, but the idea of Landry and Taylor roaming the field for the next 7 or so years is just awesome.
Welcome LaRon, I'm glad to have you aboard.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:14 pm
by PulpExposure
Redskin in Canada wrote:[Welcome Laron Landry to the Washington Redskins. We are here to support you.
Absolutely.
Also, a safety really can impact how a whole defense plays. Remember the difference last year in the Colts defense when Bob Sanders was injured, and when he was playing in the playoffs?
Transformed that whole defense.
I was on record with Okoye 1st, Landry 2nd, but I'm happy with the pick.
I wonder if there's ever been a franchise lining up 4 top 10 draft picks in the secondary?
Springs (3rd pick in 1997)
Rogers (9th pick in 2005)
Taylor (5th pick in 2004)
Landry (6th pick in 2007)
I'm guessing no?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:23 pm
by HardDawg
From NFL.com
Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Brian Dawkins -- three of the best playmakers in the NFL who all happen to be safeties. Based on his career with the Tigers, Landry is primed to etch his name along with those elite athletes in 2007.
Since being named Freshman All-American in 2003, the four-time All-Southeastern Conference selection has not only garnered quite a few postseason honors during his college career, but has also given opposing offensive coordinators nightmares. Landry did not allow a single touchdown reception during his career while producing 15 turnovers.
I've watched a lot of LSU games over the last few years and this guy is a complete stud! The DC faithful will be proud when he takes the field.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:32 pm
by Justice Hog
Okay, now my question is this.
How much is Landry gonna pay Nehemiah Broughton to take the #30 jersey from him?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:35 pm
by Justice Hog
Chris Luva Luva wrote:I say we draft Walter Thomas.
I'm keeping my eye out for this kid tomorrow. I would LOVE to draft this kid if he is available!
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:00 pm
by Warmother
I am thrilled with the Landry pick. Taking the best player available is always the smartest move. My first choice would have been to trade down, but if you can't get a trading partner or equal value you take the best player.
I think their will be a lot of WR's afraid to cross the middle of the skin's defense this year.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:06 pm
by Countertrey
I think their will be a lot of WR's afraid to cross the middle of the skin's defense this year.
That may go for TE's too. Hee, hee!
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:27 pm
by frankcal20
Can you see the train wreck that Shockey's goign to experience? I think he'll be SHOCKED>
Re: Welcome LaRon Landry
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:28 pm
by HEROHAMO
brad7686 wrote:Smithian wrote:It is now official Redskins news.
Sean Taylor and LaRon Landry shall be known as Fire and Brimstone.
Psalm 11:6 "Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest, this shall be the portion of their cup."
I would argue that the receivers on the other team will be known as fire and brimstone, because the safeties are gonna get BURNED. No Defensive Ends and two safeties that can't cover. Qb's dream. Congratulations current Washington FO on once again showing why you are the worst front office in the history of the NFL.
BLa BLa Bla. Welcome home Laron.
Just imagine a healthy Griff and Golston,Salavea. That will shore up the hole that was our Defensive line last year.
With two defensive Ball Hawks roaming the defensive secondary this will bring a confidence to this defense. Trust.
All though I was hoping for trade down and I am Sure Gibbs explored the possibilitie overall I am happy with this pick. Laron is a stud in coverage and against the run. What more can you ask for?
We still have time to pick up some more defensive line help. All is well you will see.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:39 pm
by jazzskins
crazyhorse1 wrote:I can't help but feeling disaster coming.
Yeah, but don't you always feel that way!
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:46 pm
by skinsfan#33
Hey, I like most think we needed DL help (and still do - I don't care what JG says), but Landry appears to be a stud and Safety was the next biggest area of need for this D.
It looks like our back 7 is pretty stout! Springs healthy, Smoot an Mcklin as backups are a lot better than Kenny Wright and that other guy.
A stud MLB (a little old, but still a stud), Marshall or Rockey are deffinate upgrades over Holdman.
Now for the Sean Taylor can't cover non-sense. No one on this boars would have said that before last year. I think the D got into a funk with all the injuries early on and everyone started trying to do too much (ST most of all) and some times when you try to do too much you don't do anything.
The best Defensive player in the draft can't cover? Where the heck did that come from? I heard one of the idiots during draft coverage on that 4 letter network say that and I could find that in any scotting report, so where did it come from?
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:47 pm
by JPM36
The optimistic way to look at it is we have on paper one of, if not the most, talented secondary in the NFL and that we added a stud MLB to our front 7 that should be considerably improved this year assuming everyone is healthy.
The pessimistic way to look at is that we still don't have any substantial pass rush, we are thin at DT, Rogers struggled all season, Springs is coming off an injury, and our safeties are a rookie and a guy who struggled to cover last season.
Only time will tell which viewpoint is correct, but I sure hope it's the former.