Redskins All-Time team

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:50 am

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

RGIII may have something to say about that. :lol:

I guess we need to give him a year or two. :shock:

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:13 am

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

If SSIII doesn't chime in I'm going to start it over and lobby for Sonny as QB and for Sammy as punter. That way we have our best passer ever, the best punter ever AND a great backup at QB and safety.

DarthMonk

GoSkins · Post by **GoSkins** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:29 am

DarthMonk wrote:
SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

If SSIII doesn't chime in I'm going to start it over and lobby for Sonny as QB and for Sammy as punter. That way we have our best passer ever, the best punter ever AND a great backup at QB and safety.

DarthMonk

Great idea! I'm with you on this.

DarthMonk · Post by **DarthMonk** » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:07 pm

DarthMonk wrote:I don't think this ever concluded. Maybe we could make it a little easier with a poll at each postion after a little discussion.

DarthMonk
Steve Spurrier III wrote:Since we’ve entered the dreaded offseason, I though it would be fun to name our 75th anniversary team. The way it works is simple: each week, everyone votes on a position until we have our full roster. I’ll suggest as many nominees as I can think of, but write-ins are more than welcome – I’m bound to miss a few. We will tally up results each week (let’s say by Sunday at midnight ET each week), and then start the next position.
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Roster:

Quarterback – Sammy Baugh, 64.7% (backup: Sonny Jurgensen 29.4%)
Halfback –
Fullback – 
Wide Reciever – 
Wide Reciever – 
Tight End – 
Tackle – 
Guard – 
Center –
Guard – 
Tackle

Defensive End – 
Defensive End – 
Defensive Tackle – 
Defensive Tackle – 
Outside Linebacker – 
Outside Linebacker - 
Middle Linebacker – 
Cornerback – 
Cornerback – 
Safety – 
Safety – 

Placekicker –
Punter – 

Kick returner –
Punt returner – 

Head Coach –
Owner – 
City - 

I hereby open the discussion at QB. I nominate, as the only serilus contenders, Sammy Baugh and Sonny Jurgenson.

DarthMonk wrote:
SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

If SSIII doesn't chime in I'm going to start it over and lobby for Sonny as QB and for Sammy as punter. That way we have our best passer ever, the best punter ever AND a great backup at QB and safety.

DarthMonk

Any other serious nominatons for QB before I make a poll?

DarthMonk

rskin72 · Post by **rskin72** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:12 pm

About the only other one I could think of.....since I have been following the Redskins....would be Theismann. I looked up his stats last night and was going to compare with Jurgey......but while some stats compared favorably, others did not. Even though he was drafted by the Dolphins, he never played for any NFL team besides the Redskins. And, he did lead the team to two SB's, one of which they won.

So....I would also nominate #7 to the all time conversation.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:02 pm

Skins2daGrave wrote:definitely "Slingin" Sammy, Theisman puts up a solid fight though

So much for being serious...

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:08 pm

Jurgensen. He was the best pure quarterback ever to grace the Eastern Division of the NFL/Capital Conference of the NFL/Eastern Division of the NFC.

Baugh was a great quarterback, but not the incredible technician that Jurgensen was. Baugh's real strength was his overall play, and tireless tenacity. As pointed out by DM, Baugh was arguably the best punter, and among the best Safety's ever to play the game, as well...

Theisman does not belong on this list. He is not in the HOF, and never will be.

ATX_Skins · Post by **ATX_Skins** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:56 pm

Countertrey wrote:Jurgensen. He was the best pure quarterback ever to grace the Eastern Division of the NFL/Capital Conference of the NFL/Eastern Division of the NFC.

Baugh was a great quarterback, but not the incredible technician that Jurgensen was. Baugh's real strength was his overall play, and tireless tenacity. As pointed out by DM, Baugh was arguably the best punter, and among the best Safety's ever to play the game, as well...

Theisman does not belong on this list. He is not in the HOF, and never will be.

Do you really think Baugh was one of the best safeties ever to play the game?

SouthLondonRedskin · Post by **SouthLondonRedskin** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:54 am

Countertrey wrote:Theisman does not belong on this list. He is not in the HOF, and never will be.

I take your point but I don't think the HOF thing shold come into it. Theisman was arguably our best QB of the modern era and represents the Gibbs era in this QB debate and therefore should be included in any poll for greatest QB.

He'd make a lot of people's top 3, for sure. Are we picking 53 here for a roster or just a starting XI for each unit...?

Looking at the roster list posted before we seemingly only have room for one QB and one middle linebacker....

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:25 am

Deadskins wrote:
SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

RGIII may have something to say about that.

I guess we need to give him a year or two.

Unless you're thinking RG3 will win 2 NFL titles during those two years he still will have a long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as Sammy Baugh! While I will admit Sonny might have ben the better passer, Sammy was the better QB.

Sonny had the benefit of throwing the ball to the best WR duo in NFL history. Think about it, he had two legit HoF WRs to chuck the ball to. How many QB can say that? Don't say Bradshaw, because, in my mind, Stallworth and Swann being in the HoF is a JOKE!!!

Sammy is the best QB in Skins history and quite possibly the best overall player in NFL history!

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:26 am

Deadskins wrote:
SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

RGIII may have something to say about that.

I guess we need to give him a year or two.

Unless you're thinking RG3 will win 2 NFL titles during those two years he still will have a long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as Sammy Baugh! While I will admit Sonny might have ben the better passer, Sammy was the better QB.

Sonny had the benefit of throwing the ball to the best WR duo in NFL history. Think about it, he had two legit HoF WRs to chuck the ball to. How many QB can say that? Don't say Bradshaw, because, in my mind, Stallworth and Swann being in the HoF is a JOKE!!!

Sammy is the best QB in Skins history and quite possibly the best overall player in NFL history!

ATX_Skins · Post by **ATX_Skins** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:45 am

skinsfan#33 wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

RGIII may have something to say about that.

I guess we need to give him a year or two.

Unless you're thinking RG3 will win 2 NFL titles during those two years he still will have a long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as Sammy Baugh! While I will admit Sonny might have ben the better passer, Sammy was the better QB.

Sonny had the benefit of throwing the ball to the best WR duo in NFL history. Think about it, he had two legit HoF WRs to chuck the ball to. How many QB can say that? Don't say Bradshaw, because, in my mind, Stallworth and Swann being in the HoF is a JOKE!!!

Sammy is the best QB in Skins history and quite possibly the best overall player in NFL history!

These guys were great if you collect buffalo pennies and have a model train set in your basement. You are making very large claims for guys that played in the 40's. All of the real athletes during that time were in Europe or the Pacific.

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:27 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
Deadskins wrote:
SouthLondonRedskin wrote:So does that mean QB is settled and we're now on RBs..?

RGIII may have something to say about that.

I guess we need to give him a year or two.

Unless you're thinking RG3 will win 2 NFL titles during those two years he still will have a long way to go to even be mentioned in the same breath as Sammy Baugh! While I will admit Sonny might have ben the better passer, Sammy was the better QB.

Sonny had the benefit of throwing the ball to the best WR duo in NFL history. Think about it, he had two legit HoF WRs to chuck the ball to. How many QB can say that? Don't say Bradshaw, because, in my mind, Stallworth and Swann being in the HoF is a JOKE!!!

Sammy is the best QB in Skins history and quite possibly the best overall player in NFL history!

& a TE who SHOULD be in the HOF.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:24 pm

Steve Spurrier III wrote:
HEROHAMO wrote:The old guys I cant give a vote to because I am 28 years old and never seen them play.

Hey, I never saw Sammy Baugh play but I know he is the best of the bunch. Using your age as a crutch seems kind of weak. But it's your vote, you can do with it whatever you like.

hah. I'm still kind of laughing over this comment. Personally, I'm not going to use my age as a crutch, but I'm also not going to say Sammy or Sonny are the greatest Redskins QBs of all time just because its what I've heard from the old timers.

Anyway, kind of sad that those of us who grew up with the Redskins from the 80s on have so few choices for greatest QB. I'd have to go with Thiesman myself. Two super bowls, a couple franchise records and our last real franchise QB. No offense to Sammy Baugh or Sonny!

Have 4th ---

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:55 pm

Being 26 how can I not agree 100%? Clips of the past is a big difference from actually watching.. even though I wasn't very old then Theismann is etched in my memory where the other two I have to make it a point to learn about but because of my age, call it a crutch I call it youthfull strong legs lmao, I just don't KNOW Sonny and Sammy. Sorry oldskewlers, small price to pay for young guns lol

skinsfan#33 · Post by **skinsfan#33** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:31 pm

ATX_Skins wrote:These guys were great if you collect buffalo pennies and have a model train set in your basement. You are making very large claims for guys that played in the 40's.

Yes, I am and I'm confident I'm right, but hey that is just my opinion (even if itis right)!

ATX_Skins wrote:All of the real athletes during that time were in Europe or the Pacific.

What?

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:13 pm

skinsfan#33 wrote:
ATX_Skins wrote:These guys were great if you collect buffalo pennies and have a model train set in your basement. You are making very large claims for guys that played in the 40's.

Yes, I am and I'm confident I'm right, but hey that is just my opinion (even if itis right)!

ATX_Skins wrote:All of the real athletes during that time were in Europe or the Pacific.

What?

(he means WWII; Europe and the Pacific Theatre. Not sure that he's right, but that's what he's getting at. At least, that's what I think he means.)

welch · Post by **welch** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:19 pm

Baugh was won the NFL Championship in 1937, his rookie year.

See Wikipedia: "Two of his records as quarterback still stand: most seasons leading the league in passing (six; tied with Steve Young) and most seasons leading the league with the lowest interception percentage (five).[9] He is also third in highest single-season completion percentage (70.33), most seasons leading the league in yards gained (four) and most seasons leading the league in completion percentage (seven)."

For those who never saw Sonny play, Here is a 14 minute NFL Films product called "Did Your Ever See Sonny Play?"

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-pre ... Sonny-play

Shows why Sonny is the finest passer in modern football.

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