Is Bush a national embarrassment?

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:00 am

Countertrey wrote:
How about discussing your vote, unless you are one of the "won't admit it" complement?

I did not, and will not vote, for two reasons.

1. There is no selection that matches my opinion.
2. The premise of your poll is deliberately flawed, and designed to obtain a narrow and pre-ordained result which is fully negative from the perspective of Bush's supporters.

It's kind of like asking a person "So, did you stop beating your wife yet?" and allowing them to answer only yes or no. No matter how you respond, you are scum.

Not quite that bad, but I get your point. I started the thread as a response to the "Is Howard Dean an idiot" thread, and some of the comments that were made there. I wanted Bush supporters here to have to defend some really idiotic behavior. So I simply used the past week's G8 summit to showcase a few examples of why I feel embarrassed that Bush is the face of this great nation. I could have easily found numerous other illustrations, but he provided ample examples at the G8.

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:52 pm

Cappster wrote:

I don't think he meant anything sexual coming up behind the German Chancellor and grabbing her shoulders.

The fact that this sentence has even been seen in a conversation about the US president is a little disturbing, isn't it? :shock:

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:04 pm

And does it have to have been sexual for it to be embarrassing?

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:47 pm

Is Bush a national embarrassment?

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Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:15 pm

JSPB22 wrote:And does it have to have been sexual for it to be embarrassing?

Not as embarrassing as having the presidents "DNA" on a ladies dress other than his WIFE. :oops:

Cappster · Post by **Cappster** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:16 pm

UK Skins Fan wrote:Cappster wrote:
I don't think he meant anything sexual coming up behind the German Chancellor and grabbing her shoulders.

The fact that this sentence has even been seen in a conversation about the US president is a little disturbing, isn't it?

No. Ever heard of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky?

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:17 pm

Cappster wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:Cappster wrote:
I don't think he meant anything sexual coming up behind the German Chancellor and grabbing her shoulders.

The fact that this sentence has even been seen in a conversation about the US president is a little disturbing, isn't it?

No. Ever heard of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky?

Absolutely, but at least I knew that Monica was a woman. Have you seen the German chancellor? :puke:

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:48 pm

Cappster wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:And does it have to have been sexual for it to be embarrassing?

Not as embarrassing as having the presidents "DNA" on a ladies dress other than his WIFE.

UK Skins Fan wrote:
Cappster wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:Cappster wrote:
I don't think he meant anything sexual coming up behind the German Chancellor and grabbing her shoulders.

The fact that this sentence has even been seen in a conversation about the US president is a little disturbing, isn't it?

No. Ever heard of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky?
Absolutely, but at least I knew that Monica was a woman. Have you seen the German chancellor?

I said it wasn't sexual. It would have been even worse with that interpretation. The difference is that Monica Lewinsky was not the Head of State of another country, Billy-boy didn't perform his antics in front of the cameras on the world stage, and he didn't have to sneak up behind her to cop a feel. :lol:

skins#1fan · Post by **skins#1fan** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:57 pm

I am so damn proud to be a REPUBLICAN!!! All of you liberal loonies out there are destroying this country with your bogus media coverage and finally America is starting to realize how you people are. This is why we won the past 2 elections and will win it in 08! The media is so bad that it actually harms our troops! I was talking to a friend that just got back from Iraq and the news actually leaked where they were going a day prior to. The liberals are to scared to stand up for anything because it might cost you a damn vote. Bush stands up for what he believes in weather you like it or not and we still voted him in!

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:32 pm

skins#1fan wrote:I am so damn proud to be a REPUBLICAN!!! All of you liberal loonies out there are destroying this country with your bogus media coverage and finally America is starting to realize how you people are. This is why we won the past 2 elections and will win it in 08! The media is so bad that it actually harms our troops! I was talking to a friend that just got back from Iraq and the news actually leaked where they were going a day prior to. The liberals are to scared to stand up for anything because it might cost you a damn vote. Bush stands up for what he believes in weather you like it or not and we still voted him in!

So can I put you down for a "yes" then? :roll:

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:25 pm

Am I the only 1 who remembers Carter kissing the British Queen Mother on the lips?

Clinton's list is too long for mr to type. Better get out of your glass houses.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:18 pm

yupchagee wrote:Am I the only 1 who remembers Carter kissing the British Queen Mother on the lips?

Clinton's list is too long for mr to type. Better get out of your glass houses.

So, to sum up your argument:
Bush is not a national embarrassment because, Clinton had an extramarital affair while in office, and Carter once kissed the Queen Mum on the lips when greeting her?

Was Clinton a national embarrassment? Had you bothered to create that thread, you might have known my answer to that question. Too late now. I will not attempt to ignore you any longer. And since attempting to discuss issues with you, is as productive as ](*,)

, I will simply agree with everything you post.*

Your right! Why didn't I see it before? It's all so clear now.

*This only pertains to the lounge, and smack forums. With you, I will discuss football issues only in the future.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:08 am

Cappster wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:And does it have to have been sexual for it to be embarrassing?

Not as embarrassing as having the presidents "DNA" on a ladies dress other than his WIFE.

Wrong! Half the not was delighted to nail him for something; the other half could have cared less.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:35 am

crazyhorse1 wrote:
Cappster wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:And does it have to have been sexual for it to be embarrassing?

Not as embarrassing as having the presidents "DNA" on a ladies dress other than his WIFE.

Wrong! Half the not was delighted to nail him for something; the other half could have cared less.

What is "the not?"

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:59 am

What is "the not?"

Sounds wrought of medieval mysticism, doesn't it? I'm sure it's quite deep. Prob'ly sumpin' us lil' folk don' need to worry ourselves 'bout, none.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:05 am

Countertrey wrote:
What is "the not?"

Sounds wrought of medieval mysticism, doesn't it? I'm sure it's quite deep. Prob'ly sumpin' us lil' folk don' need to worry ourselves 'bout, none.

Maybe he meant "the Knot," which would be the tie that binds. :lol:

UK Skins Fan · Post by **UK Skins Fan** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:52 pm

skins#1fan wrote:I am so damn proud to be a REPUBLICAN!!! All of you liberal loonies out there are destroying this country with your bogus media coverage and finally America is starting to realize how you people are. This is why we won the past 2 elections and will win it in 08! The media is so bad that it actually harms our troops! I was talking to a friend that just got back from Iraq and the news actually leaked where they were going a day prior to. The liberals are to scared to stand up for anything because it might cost you a damn vote. Bush stands up for what he believes in weather you like it or not and we still voted him in!

A cogent and coherent argument indeed. Well done.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:19 am

crazyhorse1 wrote:
Cappster wrote:
JSPB22 wrote:And does it have to have been sexual for it to be embarrassing?

Not as embarrassing as having the presidents "DNA" on a ladies dress other than his WIFE.

Wrong! Half the not was delighted to nail him for something; the other half could have cared less.

I have no idea what word I meant to type when I typed the word "not."

JansenFan · Post by **JansenFan** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:07 am

They had a few good albums, so England shouldn't be too embarrassed. It's not like they came up with the doodlebops or something.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:38 pm

JansenFan wrote:They had a few good albums, so England shouldn't be too embarrassed. It's not like they came up with the doodlebops or something.

Funny, JF.

As for me, I voted no.

Sure, he's done some embarassing things, as JSPB22 points out re: the G8 summit, but, to a majority of the people around the country and those troops on the frontlines, he is certanily someone that makes them proud to be citizens of the U.S.A.

Admittedly, a lot of the heat he catches makes you wonder how he got into office, etc., but make no mistake. The man is brilliant. If not, how could else could he have gotten into ofice. No matter how complicated the "scheme", he has to be smart enough to follow along.

My 2 cents

yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:54 pm

There has been only 1 time in my life when I was embarrassed to be an American. That was when we targeted an apartment bldg in Serbia to shut down a broadcast studio (I forget if it was radio or TV). There were a large # of casualities among people who were non combatants by any definition, Classifying the studio as a legit military target was highly questionable & we didn't belong there in the 1st place.

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:18 pm

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote: but make no mistake. The man is brilliant. If not, how could else could he have gotten into ofice. No matter how complicated the "scheme", he has to be smart enough to follow along.

... now that's funny. Put that on a tee shirt... 'Bush is Brilliant'... oh wait, but spell it wrong...

Bush is Briliant.

:wink:

How did he get into office?

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yupchagee · Post by **yupchagee** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:07 am

BossHog wrote:
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote: but make no mistake. The man is brilliant. If not, how could else could he have gotten into ofice. No matter how complicated the "scheme", he has to be smart enough to follow along.

... now that's funny. Put that on a tee shirt... 'Bush is Brilliant'... oh wait, but spell it wrong...

Bush is Briliant.

How did he get into office?

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Money wasn't the deciding factor. Both parties spent like drunken sailors (my apologies to any sailors on the board, & any drunks for that matter).

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:49 am

You keep telling yourself that. :wink:

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:59 am

Bush is the reason I registered to vote. :twisted: