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I'll add a couple of Redskin coaching blunders. You decide if they are boneheaded:

- 1966, Otto Graham calls time to have Charlie Gogolak kick as last second field gold, to "edge" the Giants 72 - 41. Why the extra three points? I don't know...I was in college...but I remember that jaws dropped, heads wagged, and the Giants were mighty angry.

- 1972, also Giants. The Redskins were running out the clock sending Larry Brown bolting between the guards. With a few seconds left and the ball on the Giants 1, Allen called time out. Billy Kilmer looked up, shook his head, waddled / trotted over to consult with "Wiley George", and then walked slowly back to the huddle. Still shaking his head. They ran Larry Brown over the middle again, for a useless TD. Again, nobody could explain why the Skins would risk their great runner on a needless play. Allen said he was thinking about the new tie-breaking rules, under which, as the (roughly) 20th tie-breaker you counted points scored. The Giants were angry again.

- Allen, a few seasons later, trading a future draft choice that he didn't have -- he had already traded it, but he was always trading so many future picks that he lost count. The league penalized the Redskins another future pick.

Oh, George Allen!

Then there was the generally-accepted biggest bone-head trade of them all: Allen traded about two future (first round?) picks to the Cardinals for Dave Butz, "the phlegmatic mastodon", as a Post writer called him. "Dave Bust", as other called him. "Like a fat kid who can't resist another piece of candy, George can't resist another defensive tackle", the Post wrote. Time changes opinions!

Same for Allen's signing of a talented weirdo fullback from the Jets, a guy who weighed about 225 or 230 but had been state high school sprint champ, and who sometimes showed up in training camp wearing a mowhawk haircut. "All that money for a blocking back?" people asked. Bone-headed. The Allen left, and Pardee's OC changed from the I-formation to the pro-twin set, and the weirdo ran wild, just like when he was with the Jets. Time and opinions, again!

welch wrote:- 1966, Otto Graham calls time to have Charlie Gogolak kick as last second field gold, to "edge" the Giants 72 - 41. Why the extra three points? I don't know...I was in college...but I remember that jaws dropped, heads wagged, and the Giants were mighty angry.

I read that Sam Huff, who the Giants threw on the "scrap heap" by trading him to the Skins, wanted to really stick it to the Giants and he basically demanded that Gogolak be sent in a kick a field goal on the last play of the game - his wish was granted...

I read that Sam Huff, who the Giants threw on the "scrap heap" by trading him to the Skins, wanted to really stick it to the Giants and he basically demanded that Gogolak be sent in a kick a field goal on the last play of the game - his wish was granted...

That would make sense. I remember that Sam hated being dumped by the Giants. He said someplace (an autobiography?) that, when he came to the Redskins, the defense was so poorly coached that they were told where to line up, and nothing more. No defensive plays, no schemes...just stand and get hit.

welch wrote:

I read that Sam Huff, who the Giants threw on the "scrap heap" by trading him to the Skins, wanted to really stick it to the Giants and he basically demanded that Gogolak be sent in a kick a field goal on the last play of the game - his wish was granted...

That would make sense. I remember that Sam hated being dumped by the Giants. He said someplace (an autobiography?) that, when he came to the Redskins, the defense was so poorly coached that they were told where to line up, and nothing more. No defensive plays, no schemes...just stand and get hit.

It was definitely Huff. He called the TO, and sent Gogolak out there with 3 seconds left in the game. But that ranks as an all-time great play in my book.

welch wrote:That would make sense. I remember that Sam hated being dumped by the Giants. He said someplace (an autobiography?) that, when he came to the Redskins, the defense was so poorly coached that they were told where to line up, and nothing more. No defensive plays, no schemes...just stand and get hit.

Kinda like how Spurrier coached the offense. "You and you go long. Fat kid, you block."

The Giants game, as I hear on NFL Total "Marcus Washington, MLB" Access said they wanted to make it the al time highest scoring game or something like that.

One that typifies a horrable season.

The winless pathetic JETS vs. the equally pathetic and winless Skins 1993 or 94.

We are lining up for a field goal after an agonizing scoreless game. The holder looks at the center and then back at the kicker and the THUMP! He gets hit in the back of the helmet with the football.

I almost lost my hot wings that instant second.

ANyone remember some of the kickers we had?? Zendehas is his name I think- this guy was awful, he had so many screwed up PAT/FG's that I had to block them out to maintain a little sanity and keep from going into the fetal position sucking my kids pacifier.

Zendejas. Please. Never bring up that name again.

welch wrote::lol:

1. Gus head-buts the wall

2. Westbrook (trying to forget that name, too) imitates Andre Reed by slamming his helmet on the turf.

3. Nothing that I remember comes close to those...

<pausing to think back to 1959...no, a lot of memorably bad plays, but these two are different.>

What does it say that those were the only two games I ever attended at JKC Stadium... er FedEx Field?

What does it say that those were the only two games I ever attended at JKC Stadium... er FedEx Field?

Or, I was watching the game with a die-hard Giants fan. What could I say? "The least disciplined Redskin team in the last 20 years". But that was before Spurrier, of course.

genuswine hoglover wrote:Kinda like how Spurrier coached the offense. "You and you go long. Fat kid, you block."

Oh, crap. My whole coaching philosophy is out there for the world to see.

There's no way Spurrier coached like that, because that particular plan would work anywhere !