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Countertrey wrote:On that note, I'm out fellas... maybe they'll be better after the bye... next year.

More like when they say bye-bye to a bunch a people. Some coaches included.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:His oline last year was HORRIBLE and he still put up good numbers.

As horrible as this one?

They were bad all year. He got sacked 13 times in the first four games. I think they had a lot of line injuries and by the end of the year it completely fell apart. At least that's why my Eagles fans friends tell me.

I agree with what you're saying. I remember they had a lot of injuries. If I remember right they lost a key free agent or two to start the year. I'm not disputing they were bad though, I'm just disputing they were as bad as our OL all year as ours has been all year.

To add to this, McNabb was in an offensive scheme last year he's run for a decade and this year he's running for his life while learning a new one.

Not to mention he's out of shape...

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:His oline last year was HORRIBLE and he still put up good numbers.

As horrible as this one?

They were bad all year. He got sacked 13 times in the first four games. I think they had a lot of line injuries and by the end of the year it completely fell apart. At least that's why my Eagles fans friends tell me.

I agree with what you're saying. I remember they had a lot of injuries. If I remember right they lost a key free agent or two to start the year. I'm not disputing they were bad though, I'm just disputing they were as bad as our OL all year as ours has been all year.

Yea, it's hard to tell who they were compared to what we have this year. I didn't seem them play much outside of the games against us.

I would pay real cash money for Gruden to be stricken dumb (family board version) right about now...

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:His oline last year was HORRIBLE and he still put up good numbers.

As horrible as this one?

They were bad all year. He got sacked 13 times in the first four games. I think they had a lot of line injuries and by the end of the year it completely fell apart. At least that's why my Eagles fans friends tell me.

I agree with what you're saying. I remember they had a lot of injuries. If I remember right they lost a key free agent or two to start the year. I'm not disputing they were bad though, I'm just disputing they were as bad as our OL all year as ours has been all year.

To add to this, McNabb was in an offensive scheme last year he's run for a decade and this year he's running for his life while learning a new one.

Not to mention he's out of shape...

Countertrey wrote:On that note, I'm out fellas... maybe they'll be better after the bye... next year.

More like when they say bye-bye to a bunch a people. Some coaches included.

Absolutely inexcusable by Haynesworth. He layed on the ground while Vick saw no pressure.

SAP_Pete wrote:Haynesworth taking a nap.

No kidding. WTF was THAT?

And becaus e we got cheated out of the last BS challenge, we can't challenge that his foot was out of bounds. I hate this GD game.

E-Gals - over 500 yards = over 50 points.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Absolutely inexcusable by Haynesworth. He layed on the ground while Vick saw no pressure.

That was pathetic. Just another example of why we have a roster full of overpaid losers.

Champsturf wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:His oline last year was HORRIBLE and he still put up good numbers.

As horrible as this one?

Actually, yes. Especially at the end of the year. The Eagles couldn't block anyone last year. His last 3 games last year McNabb was sacked 12 times. McNabb played in 16 games last year and was sacked two or more times in 13 of those games. In 8 of the 16 he was sacked 3 or more times. There were 4 games with 4 sacks and in one game he was sacked 6 times.

That's all I see when you post.

He's mostly negative but also mostly accurate

Holy Crap

How did they have 90 people on the field on that play???

Thanks McNabb. You just lost me my fantasy matchup.

O
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I'm out.

That was all on McNabb

Okay, that's it. I can't take it anymore! I'll see you next week. Or next season. Whatever!

I'm glad they caught fat slob lying on the field as Vick keeps a play alive - now Vick is playing well BUT the fat slob is lying there and Gruden rightly calls him on it

I love when guys try to defend this guy as a defensive player

100% - Gameplan and blocking hasn't helped but I knew the blocking would've sucked all year long.

SkinsJock wrote:I'm glad they caught fat slob lying on the field as Vick keeps a play alive - now Vick is playing well BUT the fat slob is lying there and Gruden rightly calls him on it

I love when guys try to defend this guy as a defensive player

No excuse for that lack of effort. But he has been dominant the last few weeks. You cant deny what he did against the Lions and Bears.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

dlc wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

dlc wrote:I think Shanny did lose the locker room with the McNabb decision. Just because you say that it is just over-hype and water under the bridge, doesn't make it so

Just because you say it was the McNabb decision doesn't make it so either. It also makes no sense. QB's get benched all the time and teams actually don't fall apart over it, it's part of life as a football player

Alright. You got me. This whole McNabb benching fiasco has had no effect on the team thus far. It's all a media hype.

How could I have read so much into it? It's just another one of those 45 point half let downs that we see after a QB gets benched that everyone in the whole sports world imagined was a problem.

Being "overblown" actually doesn't mean "made up." That you can't argue my actual position isn't showing you have confidence in yours. Overblown means made more of an issue than it is. It doesn't mean made up. I'd say nice try, but it really wasn't. I just didn't say ever it had no effect

All week you've said everyone has moved on. Is that your argument still? I'm very confident in my position.

The Shanahans screwed up and lost the locker room with the benching. I've also argued they were getting out-coached, not playing the best players and not putting them in the best position to win. I also said that they have to change things up or things are going to get worse.

After tonight, do you think I'm backing off those statements?

Sadly, I hope I'm wrong, but I also predicted things are going to get a lot worse for the rest of the season if we lost this game.

I don't see the point in watching this anymore

BTW - My Wife is picking up Jersey Mikes Philly Sub for me in honor of our ass kicking. It's my 32nd bday tomorrow and my Skins just put life in perspective. Invest 90% in my NC STATE WOLFPACK!!!

JK

CanesSkins26 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I'm glad they caught fat slob lying on the field as Vick keeps a play alive - now Vick is playing well BUT the fat slob is lying there and Gruden rightly calls him on it

I love when guys try to defend this guy as a defensive player

No excuse for that lack of effort. But he has been dominant the last few weeks. You cant deny what he did against the Lions and Bears.

He is great when he plays hard. The only problem is he doesn't always play hard.

1niksder wrote:

Champsturf wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:His oline last year was HORRIBLE and he still put up good numbers.

As horrible as this one?

Actually, yes. Especially at the end of the year. The Eagles couldn't block anyone last year. His last 3 games last year McNabb was sacked 12 times. McNabb played in 16 games last year and was sacked two or more times in 13 of those games. In 8 of the 16 he was sacked 3 or more times. There were 4 games with 4 sacks and in one game he was sacked 6 times.

That's all I see when you post.

He's mostly negative but also mostly accurate

I don't mind accuracy, but MOSTLY negative? Really? I'm not going to look for it, but find me the last positive post he's made.