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Omg I had goosebumps when I saw that picture. I'm soooo ready for the season, like right now! I hope the NFL lets us open up the season against the smeagels here in DC

Nope, just doesn't feel right. Ugh!

Irn-Bru wrote:Nope, just doesn't feel right. Ugh!

Hey Bru, compare it to us having Deon.. now when you think about that, doesn't McNabb look WAAAAY better my friend???

Irn-Bru wrote:Nope, just doesn't feel right. Ugh!

Winning does.

The Hogster wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Nope, just doesn't feel right. Ugh!

Winning does.

Nobody remembers what that feels like.

SKINFAN wrote:Mark "Noodle Arms" Brunnel took us to the playoffs.... Todd "Clipboard" Collins won enough to sneak into the playoffs. Both are backups, arguably they had the same thing Soup had, and now McNabb will have what they all have (players at least the ones that contribute). If those 2 can have success when soup cannot, I am excited to see what a guy like Dmac can do, specially playing his old team twice.

While I agree with your thought process and I agree that DMac will improve the team all by himself, but you have to temper what you expect out of the 2010 Skins.

Both of the playoff teams under Gibbs were MUCH better than what we currently have on the team. Better HC (that is my opinion so don't argue with me), drammatically better DC (we took a step back from even Blache at DC), better D-players, better at RB (CP and Betts at that time are much better than the Goldengirls we have now) and a OL that was LIGHTYEARS better than what we will field this year!

skinsfan#33 wrote:

SKINFAN wrote:Mark "Noodle Arms" Brunnel took us to the playoffs.... Todd "Clipboard" Collins won enough to sneak into the playoffs. Both are backups, arguably they had the same thing Soup had, and now McNabb will have what they all have (players at least the ones that contribute). If those 2 can have success when soup cannot, I am excited to see what a guy like Dmac can do, specially playing his old team twice.

While I agree with your thought process and I agree that DMac will improve the team all by himself, but you have to temper what you expect out of the 2010 Skins.

Both of the playoff teams under Gibbs were MUCH better than what we currently have on the team. Better HC (that is my opinion so don't argue with me), drammatically better DC (we took a step back from even Blache at DC), better D-players, better at RB (CP and Betts at that time are much better than the Goldengirls we have now) and a OL that was LIGHTYEARS better than what we will field this year!

Yeah, I agree too. This is a transition year on both sides of the ball. Shanahan needs a year at least to get most of the starters to fit his system. Some of those starters will be mid-level guys who simply fit the system better. It will also take at least a year for everyone to learn the system and allow the coaches to make adjustments that work with this personnel. Then it all has to marinate and gel together. Then you add rookies to the mix each year and they have to learn everything from scratch. 8-8 will be an accomplishment this year.

I really am not expecting much progress offensively because we have so much to do to get the line to be a unit again - that will take time

the thing is we now have a leader at QB and that will help the transition in my opinion

Campbell is not hated here (well not by many anyway) he's just a huge disapointment as a QB AND I don't think he will ever provide the leadership traits that the QB should be to a fanchise

hopefully we can find some offensive linemen over the next 2 years

CanesSkins26 wrote:Seeing McNabb in the burgundy and gold is so weird.

I concur.

Irn-Bru wrote:Nope, just doesn't feel right. Ugh!

I feel you

Both of the playoff teams under Gibbs were MUCH better than what we currently have on the team. Better HC (that is my opinion so don't argue with me), drammatically better DC (we took a step back from even Blache at DC)

Haslett is an upgrade over Blache, no doubt about it. Haslett is going to run an aggressive D here, which is going to be a nice change from the Blache bend but dont break defense. It might take a season for the players to get used to a knew system, but in the long run I think that we'll be better with regards to getting after the qb and causing turnovers. Blache was mediocre at best.

langleyparkjoe wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Nope, just doesn't feel right. Ugh!

Hey Bru, compare it to us having Deon.. now when you think about that, doesn't McNabb look WAAAAY better my friend???

Why did you have to remind me?!?! I had just about wiped that clean from my memory.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

The Hogster wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Nope, just doesn't feel right. Ugh!

Winning does.

Nobody remembers what that feels like.

LOL. Touche.

I like having a roster full of talented players with something to prove. Sure it looks weird. Just like seeing Ray Lewis wearing a Steelers jersey. But, if the team starts rolling through the NFC East...no one will give a darn.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Both of the playoff teams under Gibbs were MUCH better than what we currently have on the team. Better HC (that is my opinion so don't argue with me), drammatically better DC (we took a step back from even Blache at DC)

Haslett is an upgrade over Blache, no doubt about it. Haslett is going to run an aggressive D here, which is going to be a nice change from the Blache bend but dont break defense. It might take a season for the players to get used to a knew system, but in the long run I think that we'll be better with regards to getting after the qb and causing turnovers. Blache was mediocre at best.

No way. Go back and look at Jim Haslett's coaching career. He has been responsible for WAY more bottom ten Ds than top ten Ds!

We might not have hired the worst available DC, but I bet it is close. And he is a definite step or five down from Blache and a "fall off a cliff" down from Greggggg Williams!

Haslett will be an albatross around Shanahan's neck!

LMAO #33 "Step or Five down" hahaha


I really have no clue how our D will look. I know that we have a monster @ DE (fat Al) we have decent corners, well one good one and one questionable. We have a stud tackling machine of a LB, and a terminator like safety. We should be ok what ever the scheme is. The problem is how fast will they grasp the system and how much time do they need to be a monster once again.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Both of the playoff teams under Gibbs were MUCH better than what we currently have on the team. Better HC (that is my opinion so don't argue with me), drammatically better DC (we took a step back from even Blache at DC)

Haslett is an upgrade over Blache, no doubt about it. Haslett is going to run an aggressive D here, which is going to be a nice change from the Blache bend but dont break defense. It might take a season for the players to get used to a knew system, but in the long run I think that we'll be better with regards to getting after the qb and causing turnovers. Blache was mediocre at best.

No way. Go back and look at Jim Haslett's coaching career. He has been responsible for WAY more bottom ten Ds than top ten Ds!

We might not have hired the worst available DC, but I bet it is close. And he is a definite step or five down from Blache and a "fall off a cliff" down from Greggggg Williams!

Haslett will be an albatross around Shanahan's neck!

The interesting thing with Haslett is, he was a top tier DC in Pittsburgh years ago. From that he got his two chances to be a HC. Both times he ran a 4-3. Now, as far as I know, he is adding the 3-4 to his scheme for the first time since Pittsburgh.

fleetus wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Both of the playoff teams under Gibbs were MUCH better than what we currently have on the team. Better HC (that is my opinion so don't argue with me), drammatically better DC (we took a step back from even Blache at DC)

Haslett is an upgrade over Blache, no doubt about it. Haslett is going to run an aggressive D here, which is going to be a nice change from the Blache bend but dont break defense. It might take a season for the players to get used to a knew system, but in the long run I think that we'll be better with regards to getting after the qb and causing turnovers. Blache was mediocre at best.

No way. Go back and look at Jim Haslett's coaching career. He has been responsible for WAY more bottom ten Ds than top ten Ds!

We might not have hired the worst available DC, but I bet it is close. And he is a definite step or five down from Blache and a "fall off a cliff" down from Greggggg Williams!

Haslett will be an albatross around Shanahan's neck!

The interesting thing with Haslett is, he was a top tier DC in Pittsburgh years ago. From that he got his two chances to be a HC. Both times he ran a 4-3. Now, as far as I know, he is adding the 3-4 to his scheme for the first time since Pittsburgh.

I don't know if you would call him a top tier DC in Pittsburgh.

In the first ten years under Cowher the Steeler's D ranked in the top ten in points allowed 8 out of the 10 years (those two years (97 & 99) were with Haslett as the DC). In yards allowed Cohwers D finished ouside of the top ten in 92, 98, & 99. In other words, Bill's first year with the Steelers where he improved them from 22 in yards and points to 2nd in points and 13th in yards; and two of the three years Haslett was the DC.

Year Pts Yds
2001 3 1
2000 6 7
1999 12 11
1998 7 12
1997 11 6
1996 4 2
1995 9 3
1994 2 2
1993 8 3
1992 2 13

Haslett's years in bold. And this was BY FAR his most sucsessful stint as a DC. He was the DC of the Steelers during their worst defensive stretch in the first ten years under Cohwer.

True the shift wasn't dramatically worse, but it was worse and certainly the Steelers' didn't didn't improve under him.

1niksder wrote:The inside story on the McNabb trade

LMAO

That was some seriously funny stuff!

Did you see the empty trophy case behind Andy?