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Is this guy a FS or SS? The youtube clip he looked like he was playing FS.

It will be interesting to see how his contract is structured. Is he being brought in to compete for a job, like they did with Larry Johnson and Willie Parker, or is he expected to be a starter.

Skeletor wrote:From Wikipedia:

Shooting incident
On July 21, 2006 Meriweather was involved in a shooting incident when teammate Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks. In self defense, Meriweather returned fire and shot at the unidentified shooters three times. Meriweather was not charged with a crime because his gun was owned legally.

Miami-FIU Brawl
During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident. It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip.

I think, however, stomping on players during a brawl is much different than stomping on a player during a play... Still not excusable, but different...

Completely different, not excusable, but definitely not indicative of a Haynesworth type attitude.

Hang on, he was BEING SHOT AT! AND returned fire, in self defense, with a legally owned weapon. . . AND YA'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? (must say I'm surprised, had some of you pegged for 2nd amendment champions). Would you have preferred he paint a bullseye on his behind and allow himself to get shot to show his "character"?

skinsfan#33 wrote:Is this guy a FS or SS? The youtube clip he looked like he was playing FS.

It will be interesting to see how his contract is structured. Is he being brought in to compete for a job, like they did with Larry Johnson and Willie Parker, or is he expected to be a starter.

For three million a year? Starter. If there is no guaranteed though maybe they want to test out his attitude. But I don't think it's a Larry situation where it's just beating out others on the field.

I keep hearing Royal is signed..........what up? News?

emoses14 wrote:

Skeletor wrote:From Wikipedia:

Shooting incident
On July 21, 2006 Meriweather was involved in a shooting incident when teammate Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks. In self defense, Meriweather returned fire and shot at the unidentified shooters three times. Meriweather was not charged with a crime because his gun was owned legally.

Miami-FIU Brawl
During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident. It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip.

I think, however, stomping on players during a brawl is much different than stomping on a player during a play... Still not excusable, but different...

Completely different, not excusable, but definitely not indicative of a Haynesworth type attitude.

Hang on, he was BEING SHOT AT! AND returned fire, in self defense, with a legally owned weapon. . . AND YA'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? (must say I'm surprised, had some of you pegged for 2nd amendment champions). Would you have preferred he paint a bullseye on his behind and allow himself to get shot to show his "character"?

I have no problem with someone returning fire to defend themselves. I do have a problem with putting yourself in a situation where you think that you need to carry a gun.

I'm not taking about standing an armed watch, because I have done that countless times. I'm talking about going out looking for trouble.

Merriweather is a quality safety, he's just out of control. If we can harness that, he's going to make plays and lay serious wood in this defense.

I'd expect him to start. $3M per year is not expensive in the grand scheme, but he instantly becomes the highest paid safety on this roster. Reed Doughty simply isn't starter material.

As my avatar suggests, I have no problem with a hard sitting safety from The U, who packs heat. Especially legally.

You can't have a defense full of Deacons & Choir Boys. You need that one guy whose a shot of whiskey away from a felony. It's just the way it is. That's why you have guys like Fletcher, Kerrigan & Orakpo on your defense to balance out savageness with discipline.

Let's all remember that the late Sean Taylor had similar transgressions...

Sounds like he's kept his nose clean off the field and needs to be more disciplined on it. Hopefully Haslett will make sure of that.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:Is this guy a FS or SS? The youtube clip he looked like he was playing FS.

It will be interesting to see how his contract is structured. Is he being brought in to compete for a job, like they did with Larry Johnson and Willie Parker, or is he expected to be a starter.

For three million a year? Starter. If there is no guaranteed though maybe they want to test out his attitude. But I don't think it's a Larry situation where it's just beating out others on the field.

Monty got $12M for 4 years. That is $3M / year, but none of it is guaranteed until opening day. Anytime between now and the final 53 he can be cut and gets zippy.

Same could be for BM.

The Hogster wrote:As my avatar suggests, I have no problem with a hard sitting safety from The U, who packs heat. Especially legally.

You can't have a defense full of Deacons & Choir Boys. You need that one guy whose a shot of whiskey away from a felony. It's just the way it is. That's why you have guys like Fletcher, Kerrigan & Orakpo on your defense to balance out savageness with discipline.

Great minds think alike...

Good points in this story. Raheem Morris should be able to get this guy on track. Also, says the cover 2 scheme in Chicago didn't really fit him...

Redskins sign Brandon Meriwether
By Dan Graziano
New Washington Redskins defensive backs coach Raheem Morris has his first project. According to Adam Schefter, the Redskins have agreed to terms with free-agent safety Brandon Meriwether, who was cut last year by both the Patriots and the Bears and is likely in line for a starting job in Washington.

The Redskins' starting safeties in 2011 were LaRon Landry and O.J. Atogwe, but the perpetually injured Landry is on his way out as a free agent, and the team cut Atogwe earlier this week in a salary cap move. Meriwether is the replacement for Landry, and much will be expected of him. He's a former first-round pick whose best year came in 2009 but who didn't fit with the Bears' Cover 2 defense last year in Chicago. The Redskins likely believe that Morris, whom they hired as defensive backs coach this offseason after he was fired as head coach of the Buccaneers, is the coach to get Meriwether focused and motivated and draw the talent out of him.

Washington will continue to look to upgrade its secondary, and is scheduled to bring in former Giants cornerback Aaron Ross for a visit this week. They like young safety DeJon Gomes, whom they drafted last year, but it's unclear whether they think he's ready to be a full-time starter, whether Reed Doughty can handle that job or if they might look to add another safety via free agency.

The Washington Post reports that the deal is for $6 million over two years. Denver Broncos also had interest in Meriwether.

The Hogster wrote: Reed Doughty simply isn't starter material.

Three HC and DC would disagree with you. Reed has started games under Gibbs, Zorn, and MS for GW, GB, and JH as the DC. He may not be flashy, but he started more games last year than Landry and he started more games than Meriweather. If fact he has started more game or the past two seasons than LL or BM.

Face it he is starting material. He is starting material you would rather have on your bench, but facts are facts, his is NFL starting material.

I think he has been on the defense longer than any other player.

Would I rather have a better player? You bet! However, I feel better about him than all of our OL, except Tokey.

Countertrey wrote:You think he knows Redskins_Fanatic???

In fairness, I think Merriweather's lightening bolt is a bit more potent than R_F's)

hahaha! "Lightning bolt... Lightning bolt... Lightning Bolt!"

Skeletor wrote:From Wikipedia:

Shooting incident
On July 21, 2006 Meriweather was involved in a shooting incident when teammate Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks. In self defense, Meriweather returned fire and shot at the unidentified shooters three times. Meriweather was not charged with a crime because his gun was owned legally.

Miami-FIU Brawl
During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident. It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip.

I think, however, stomping on players during a brawl is much different than stomping on a player during a play... Still not excusable, but different...

1.. good for him for shooting back, I'm 99% sure everyone here in that same exact situation would've done the same thing. Don't be hypocrites about that.

2.. if you guys haven't played college football in Florida, you shouldn't even comment on it.

In Florida there are so many colleges and most of the players are from different rival neighborhoods. (If you don't know what I mean by rival neighborhoods than you shouldn't even read this) They take that stuff very seriously and genuinely hate each other. I only know this because my cousin was a Gator and he grew up down there. I'm not even gonna say I have a problem with a guy who in COLLEGE did this.. he didn't do that on the NFL field did he?

Stop ya'll crying.. if ya'll don't want him here, use football facts like he gets burned or something.. stop bringing up other stuff that doesn't matter.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

emoses14 wrote:

Skeletor wrote:From Wikipedia:

Shooting incident
On July 21, 2006 Meriweather was involved in a shooting incident when teammate Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks. In self defense, Meriweather returned fire and shot at the unidentified shooters three times. Meriweather was not charged with a crime because his gun was owned legally.

Miami-FIU Brawl
During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident. It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip.

I think, however, stomping on players during a brawl is much different than stomping on a player during a play... Still not excusable, but different...

Completely different, not excusable, but definitely not indicative of a Haynesworth type attitude.

Hang on, he was BEING SHOT AT! AND returned fire, in self defense, with a legally owned weapon. . . AND YA'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? (must say I'm surprised, had some of you pegged for 2nd amendment champions). Would you have preferred he paint a bullseye on his behind and allow himself to get shot to show his "character"?

I have no problem with someone returning fire to defend themselves. I do have a problem with putting yourself in a situation where you think that you need to carry a gun.

I'm not taking about standing an armed watch, because I have done that countless times. I'm talking about going out looking for trouble.

The shooting happened at his house. Willie Cooper, Merriweather's teammate and roommate, was shot in front of their house. Merriweather returned fire with a legally licensed hand gun.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

The Hogster wrote: Reed Doughty simply isn't starter material.

Three HC and DC would disagree with you. Reed has started games under Gibbs, Zorn, and MS for GW, GB, and JH as the DC. He may not be flashy, but he started more games last year than Landry and he started more games than Meriweather. If fact he has started more game or the past two seasons than LL or BM.

Face it he is starting material. He is starting material you would rather have on your bench, but facts are facts, his is NFL starting material.

I think he has been on the defense longer than any other player.

Would I rather have a better player? You bet! However, I feel better about him than all of our OL, except Tokey.

Sorry bro, I agree with Hogster.. Reed starts because there's no one else to start. LOL!!

langleyparkjoe wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:

The Hogster wrote: Reed Doughty simply isn't starter material.

Three HC and DC would disagree with you. Reed has started games under Gibbs, Zorn, and MS for GW, GB, and JH as the DC. He may not be flashy, but he started more games last year than Landry and he started more games than Meriweather. If fact he has started more game or the past two seasons than LL or BM.

Face it he is starting material. He is starting material you would rather have on your bench, but facts are facts, his is NFL starting material.

I think he has been on the defense longer than any other player.

Would I rather have a better player? You bet! However, I feel better about him than all of our OL, except Tokey.

Sorry bro, I agree with Hogster.. Reed starts because there's no one else to start. LOL!!

That may be true, but it still doesn't change the fact that THREE HC and DC have felt comfortable starting him!

langleyparkjoe wrote:

2.. if you guys haven't played college football in Florida, you shouldn't even comment on it.

. I only know this because my cousin was a Gator and he grew up down there.

If you didn't play college football in Florida, why are you commenting?

CanesSkins26 wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:

emoses14 wrote:

Skeletor wrote:From Wikipedia:

Shooting incident
On July 21, 2006 Meriweather was involved in a shooting incident when teammate Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks. In self defense, Meriweather returned fire and shot at the unidentified shooters three times. Meriweather was not charged with a crime because his gun was owned legally.

Miami-FIU Brawl
During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident. It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip.

I think, however, stomping on players during a brawl is much different than stomping on a player during a play... Still not excusable, but different...

Completely different, not excusable, but definitely not indicative of a Haynesworth type attitude.

Hang on, he was BEING SHOT AT! AND returned fire, in self defense, with a legally owned weapon. . . AND YA'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? (must say I'm surprised, had some of you pegged for 2nd amendment champions). Would you have preferred he paint a bullseye on his behind and allow himself to get shot to show his "character"?

I have no problem with someone returning fire to defend themselves. I do have a problem with putting yourself in a situation where you think that you need to carry a gun.

I'm not taking about standing an armed watch, because I have done that countless times. I'm talking about going out looking for trouble.

The shooting happened at his house. Willie Cooper, Merriweather's teammate and roommate, was shot in front of their house. Merriweather returned fire with a legally licensed hand gun.

That is what I get for assuming. I'm completely OK with that!

langleyparkjoe wrote:

Skeletor wrote:From Wikipedia:

Shooting incident
On July 21, 2006 Meriweather was involved in a shooting incident when teammate Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks. In self defense, Meriweather returned fire and shot at the unidentified shooters three times. Meriweather was not charged with a crime because his gun was owned legally.

Miami-FIU Brawl
During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident. It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip.

I think, however, stomping on players during a brawl is much different than stomping on a player during a play... Still not excusable, but different...

1.. good for him for shooting back, I'm 99% sure everyone here in that same exact situation would've done the same thing. Don't be hypocrites about that.

2.. if you guys haven't played college football in Florida, you shouldn't even comment on it.

In Florida there are so many colleges and most of the players are from different rival neighborhoods. (If you don't know what I mean by rival neighborhoods than you shouldn't even read this) They take that stuff very seriously and genuinely hate each other. I only know this because my cousin was a Gator and he grew up down there. I'm not even gonna say I have a problem with a guy who in COLLEGE did this.. he didn't do that on the NFL field did he?

Stop ya'll crying.. if ya'll don't want him here, use football facts like he gets burned or something.. stop bringing up other stuff that doesn't matter.

+1

Not to mention that most of the kids playing college ball in Florida played each other in high school, and there is always tension when schools like Miami, UF, and FSU play the second tier schools like FIU, FAU, etc. The brawl was started by FIU when one of there players post-play basically body slammed Miami's holder after an extra point.

With that said, Merriweather's isn't that great. Bottom line is he free lances too much. Even in college he got benched a few times for being out of position and he was even moved to nickel corner at one point. Hopefully our new secondary coach can work on him some.

oh well - here we go again It really does not matter who these guys were

OR what their past history is



Brandon's going to get a chance to come in here and be given a chance to start at safety - Like a LOT of other players here

they are all in a fight to make this roster because if you don't put out in practice and make an effort to really impress this staff you will not be in B&G for very long

we have seen the last of the type of players that rely on their reps to make the roster

IF you want to play and stay here you better show it - the only thing guranteed here is that this is NOT 'the same old Redskins'

welcome to all the new guys - get ready to fight to make it - we are heading to the playoffs

hope you can handle it

The Hogster wrote:Merriweather is a quality safety, he's just out of control. If we can harness that, he's going to make plays and lay serious wood in this defense.

The worst Bears safety I have seen since Adam Archuleta. Terrible player - but the Bears get some modicum of revenge for that Archuleta deal AT LAST!

Well since Merriweather is a SS replacing Landry maybe we can still go after Nelson however we need to make an oline move and resign London every second that goes by and he doesn't sign drives me nuts even though my fellow hogs have told me to relax

CanesSkins26 wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:

Skeletor wrote:From Wikipedia:

Shooting incident
On July 21, 2006 Meriweather was involved in a shooting incident when teammate Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks. In self defense, Meriweather returned fire and shot at the unidentified shooters three times. Meriweather was not charged with a crime because his gun was owned legally.

Miami-FIU Brawl
During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident. It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip.

I think, however, stomping on players during a brawl is much different than stomping on a player during a play... Still not excusable, but different...

1.. good for him for shooting back, I'm 99% sure everyone here in that same exact situation would've done the same thing. Don't be hypocrites about that.

2.. if you guys haven't played college football in Florida, you shouldn't even comment on it.

In Florida there are so many colleges and most of the players are from different rival neighborhoods. (If you don't know what I mean by rival neighborhoods than you shouldn't even read this) They take that stuff very seriously and genuinely hate each other. I only know this because my cousin was a Gator and he grew up down there. I'm not even gonna say I have a problem with a guy who in COLLEGE did this.. he didn't do that on the NFL field did he?

Stop ya'll crying.. if ya'll don't want him here, use football facts like he gets burned or something.. stop bringing up other stuff that doesn't matter.

+1

Not to mention that most of the kids playing college ball in Florida played each other in high school, and there is always tension when schools like Miami, UF, and FSU play the second tier schools like FIU, FAU, etc. The brawl was started by FIU when one of there players post-play basically body slammed Miami's holder after an extra point.

With that said, Merriweather's isn't that great. Bottom line is he free lances too much. Even in college he got benched a few times for being out of position and he was even moved to nickel corner at one point. Hopefully our new secondary coach can work on him some.

I'm tryna tell you CS.. they don't know what it's like down there bro.. LOL. its very very serious

Skeletor wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:

2.. if you guys haven't played college football in Florida, you shouldn't even comment on it.

. I only know this because my cousin was a Gator and he grew up down there.

If you didn't play college football in Florida, why are you commenting?

You don't know what I played or where now do you?