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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:37 am
by gay4pacman
I'm going to talk especially when it involves our prized 1st round pick. We need him to dominate next year!
I really hope that quote is true but you can never trust a random message board completely. Of course seans FREIND is going to say that all of this stuff is going seans way! Is he going to say that sean failed the lie detector test....prob not. either way the source is questionable.
I do love hearing such positive things though!
Sean better learn his lesson!
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:10 am
by WshSkins22
Now that we can almost say Sean Taylor is free, keyword almosy, now we have even more to talk about, how will the league deal with him, how will the skins deal with him, I do remember Gibbs saying they haven't discussed any punishment for Taylor, and I dont see them taking action publicy because Taylor hasn't been convicted, so doesn't that mean he will be playing for us without a suspension, unless he is fined for missing offseason workouts
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:22 am
by WshSkins22
^^^ I can kiss that goodbye...
Redskins' Taylor Charged With Assault and Battery
By Nunyo Demasio
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 24, 2005; 10:17 AM
MIAMI, June 24 -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor was formally charged this morning with one felony count of aggravated assault with a firearm and one misdemeanor count of simple battery for his role in a June 1 confrontation in a Miami neighborhood.
The charges were announced by the Miami-Dade state attorney's office at Taylor's arraignment.
The decision by prosecutor Mike Grieco to file the charges at the Richard E. Gerstein Building brings Taylor's case to trial with a tentative date of September 12.
Taylor pleaded not guilty through a written document filed in advance by defense lawyer Edward Carhart.
Neither the 6-foot-2, 232-pound safety nor Carhart appeared at the arraignment. Carhart made arrangements to be informed of any charges by telephone so he could relay the information to Taylor.
The charges stem from an incident in which Taylor reportedly was seeking the return of two stolen all-terrain vehicles he said were stolen from him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5062400535.html
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:57 am
by gay4pacman
shoot so what does that mean.....He has to go to trial but will he be available for training camp? sept 12 is not a good date considering it is during the regular season!
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:23 pm
by WshSkins22
Heres another source saying hes been charged...
Redskins safety Taylor faces 3-year minimum on assault charge
By CURT ANDERSON Associated Press Writer
June 23, 2005
MIAMI- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor would face a minimum prison sentence of three years if he is convicted on charges filed Friday by state prosecutors for allegedly pointing a gun during a dispute over an all-terrain vehicle.
Taylor, a 22-year-old former University of Miami standout, faces a single count of aggravated assault with a firearm, said Michael Greico, assistant state attorney. Taylor was allegedly among a group of people who got into a June 1 armed confrontation over an ATV that Taylor and his associates believed had been stolen.
Another man in the group, 19-year-old Charles Caughman, also faces aggravated assault charges for allegedly threatening and chasing someone with a baseball bat.
After a brief hearing to announce the charges, Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Mary Barzee set a Sept. 12 trial date for Taylor. That would be the day after the Redskins open their season.
The former collegiate all-America and No. 5 overall pick by the Redskins in the 2004 NFL draft did not appear in court and has filed a written plea of not guilty.
Taylor's attorney, Edward Carhart, said his client had hoped to avoid the charges after meeting with prosecutors voluntarily to give his side of the case and to present polygraph test results the lawyer said clear Taylor of any wrongdoing. Polygraph results are usually not admissible in court.
"I'm disappointed," Carhart said. "The polygraph examiner said in his opinion that Sean was telling the truth when he said he never threatened anyone with a firearm or a baseball bat, and that there was no such weapon in his car."
Greico, however, said the investigation produced enough evidence and that prosecutors "have a good-faith basis to go forward" with the charges, which he said involve three victims. He would not comment on the substance of the case but said Taylor faces a maximum prison term of 16 years.
Taylor has had a string of off-the-field troubles since signing a seven-year, $18 million deal with the Redskins after the 2004 draft. The Redskins have excused Taylor from further offseason practices and meetings so he can "focus on his personal and legal issues," the team said in a recent statement.
Taylor was charged with drunken driving in October after attending a birthday party for receiver Rod Gardner. Those charges were dismissed, but Taylor was convicted for refusing to take a blood-alcohol test.
Taylor has also fired two agents, was fined for skipping one day of the NFL's mandatory rookie symposium and was accused of spitting on a player during a game at Cincinnati.
He started 13 games last year and recorded 89 tackles, four interceptions, one sack and two forced fumbles.
http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/home/article/0,1651,TCP_996_3880262,00.html
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:25 pm
by Manchester_Redskin
Like I said earlier, if they didnt believe him when he said there was no bat, they wernt going to believe him about the gun either
Taylor
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:58 pm
by THE RAM
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:19 pm
by SkinsJock
We'll miss him, no question. But for how long we won't know for a while. But we will still be very good without him because we are not depending on a single player with this defensive scheme and we saw how well we did without Lavar who has a lot more NFL experience (and is more talented right now) and will most likely be there on 9/11.
Just amazing how the "tude" and the "rep" affect the actions and decisions of so many of the so called "stars" of our sports!
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:28 pm
by 1niksder
Greico, however, said the investigation produced enough evidence and that prosecutors "have a good-faith basis to go forward" with the charges, which he said involve three victims.
What's a good-faith basis 
.... You have enough evidence to proceed, and/or You believe other statements over Sean's.
Who is the DA puting this faith in?
When did the 3rd victim pop up .... We know one guy was chased by a guy with a bat (that wasn't in the car) and the guy that Taylor hit, who's this new victim and how were they vitimized (what happen)?
Is Sean a victim also considering his 2 ATVs were stolen and his car was hit by gunfire?
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:34 pm
by Deadskins
He will probably file for a continuance until after the season.
Sean faces 3 years minumum on ESPN.com
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:48 pm
by EA7649
MIAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor faces a minimum three-year prison sentence for allegedly pointing a gun at someone under criminal charges filed Friday by Florida prosecutors.
Taylor
The former University of Miami standout faces a single count of aggravated assault with a firearm. An assistant state attorney said Taylor was allegedly among a group of people who got into an armed confrontation over an ATV that Taylor and his associates believed had been stolen.
Charles Caughman also faces aggravated assault charges for allegedly threatening and chasing someone with a baseball bat.
Taylor, a former collegiate All-America and No. 5 overall pick by the Redskins in the 2004 NFL draft has filed a written plea of not guilty.
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:54 pm
by 1niksder
EA7649 you double posted this as new threads when there is already a ST thread ...... merging..
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:08 pm
by oafusp
Not looking good. Kind of ironic, he was holding out for MORE money and he may very well LOSE money.
I've got a feeling that the courts and the NFL will make an example out of him.
Associated Press
MIAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor would face a minimum prison sentence of three years if convicted on charges of pointing a gun during a dispute about an all-terrain vehicle.
A trial date was set for Sept. 12, the day after the Redskins open their season.
Taylor
State prosecutors filed charges Friday against the 22-year-old former University of Miami star. He faces a single count of aggravated assault with a firearm, said Michael Greico, assistant state attorney.
Taylor allegedly was among a group of people who got into a June 1 armed confrontation over a vehicle the player and his associates believed had been stolen. Another man in the group, 19-year-old Charles Caughman, also faces aggravated assault charges. He is accused of threatening and chasing someone with a baseball bat.
Taylor, the No. 5 overall draft pick by the Redskins in 2004, did not appear in court and has filed a written plea of not guilty.
His attorney, Edward Carhart, said his client hoped to avoid charges after meeting with prosecutors voluntarily and presenting polygraph test results the lawyer said clear Taylor of wrongdoing. Polygraph results usually are not admissible in court.
Greico said the charges involve three victims. He would not comment on the substance of the case but said Taylor faces a maximum prison term of 16 years.
Taylor signed a seven-year, $18 million deal with the Redskins after he was drafted. The team has excused him from further offseason practices and meetings so he can concentrate on his case.
Taylor was charged with drunken driving in October after attending a birthday party for receiver Rod Gardner. Those charges were dismissed, but Taylor was convicted for refusing to take a blood-alcohol test.
Taylor also has fired two agents, was fined for skipping one day of the NFL's mandatory rookie symposium and was accused of spitting on a player during a game at Cincinnati.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2093853
DA Offered Sean Taylor 3yrs
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:11 pm
by maatopdogg
I heard Sean Taylor was offered a 3 year prison sentence by the DA. OUCH! Heard it on 630 WMAL
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:13 pm
by oafusp
maatopdogg, welcome to the site.
I moved your post to this Sean Taylor thread.
http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13469
Cheers
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:37 pm
by 1niksder
OK let's say this actually goes to trail at some point (I doubt it will happen before Feb 2006). He is now being charged with
single count of aggravated assault with a firearm. The witness says
1. Sean pointed a gun at them either from inside a vehicle or after exiting a vehicle....Then
2. He left for about 10 mins. only to....
3. Return and assault the witness while his buddy chase someone with a baseball bat.
My question is now this ... When he pointed the gun, what was his demeamor? Here me out here....
Sean Taylor is a world class athlete and he may have been offering to trade the gun (that he says he didn't have) for his ATVs (with his contract he no longer had a need for a pistol and the thug could halways use a extra burner).
OK that won't fly
Why is it
single count of aggravated assault with a firearm
If the DA was confident in the evidence wouldn't we see charges like.... simple assault, carrying a firearm, conspiring to commit a felony?
He admits he hit the guy.... that's assault
If he committed assault with a firearm, why not include the lesser offense?
He left the scene and came back before any physical took place ....
These lesser offenses seem easier to prove by the DA but weren't included in the charges. I wonder why
Re: DA Offered Sean Taylor 3yrs
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:37 pm
by Manchester_Redskin
maatopdogg wrote:I heard Sean Taylor was offered a 3 year prison sentence by the DA. OUCH! Heard it on 630 WMAL
Yeah I read that to, what happened to the concept that you are "innocent until proven guilty"?
So far Taylor has been found guilty of nothing yet the prosecutor wants to lock him up for 3 years.
Re: DA Offered Sean Taylor 3yrs
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:43 pm
by oafusp
Manchester_Redskin wrote:maatopdogg wrote:I heard Sean Taylor was offered a 3 year prison sentence by the DA. OUCH! Heard it on 630 WMAL
Yeah I read that to, what happened to the concept that you are "innocent until proven guilty"?
So far Taylor has been found guilty of nothing yet the prosecutor wants to lock him up for 3 years.
He is innocent until proven guilty.
He has only been charged.
3 years is the sentence for the type of crime he has been charged with.
Whats the sentence for this in Britland?
Strict gun laws over there right?
Re: DA Offered Sean Taylor 3yrs
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:02 pm
by Manchester_Redskin
oafusp wrote:Manchester_Redskin wrote:maatopdogg wrote:I heard Sean Taylor was offered a 3 year prison sentence by the DA. OUCH! Heard it on 630 WMAL
Yeah I read that to, what happened to the concept that you are "innocent until proven guilty"?
So far Taylor has been found guilty of nothing yet the prosecutor wants to lock him up for 3 years.
He is innocent until proven guilty.
He has only been charged.
3 years is the sentence for the type of crime he has been charged with.
Whats the sentence for this in Britland?
Strict gun laws over there right?
The impression I get from the article is that the prosecutor is effectively saying "look, you are facing 16 years in jail, why not plea-bargain and we'll only lock u up for 3 years" seems like the guy has already made up his mind about Sean, guess he aint a 'skins fan
yep, we have strict gun laws over here, but TBH our sportsmen dont usually own handguns
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:07 pm
by air_hog
IAMI (June 24, 2005) -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor would face a minimum prison sentence of three years if convicted on charges of pointing a gun during a dispute about an all-terrain vehicle.
A trial date was set for Sept. 12, the day after the Redskins open their season.
State prosecutors filed charges June 24 against the 22-year-old former University of Miami star. He faces a single count of aggravated assault with a firearm, said Michael Greico, assistant state attorney.
Hmmm. He is in court Sept. 12, one day after we open the season.
I don't think he'll be suiting up for Week 1.
There's just no way Gibbs will let him play when he is going to court the next day. This is not looking good...
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:16 pm
by oafusp
air_hog wrote:IAMI (June 24, 2005) -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor would face a minimum prison sentence of three years if convicted on charges of pointing a gun during a dispute about an all-terrain vehicle.
A trial date was set for Sept. 12, the day after the Redskins open their season.
State prosecutors filed charges June 24 against the 22-year-old former University of Miami star. He faces a single count of aggravated assault with a firearm, said Michael Greico, assistant state attorney.
Hmmm. He is in court Sept. 12, one day after we open the season.
I don't think he'll be suiting up for Week 1.
There's just no way Gibbs will let him play when he is going to court the next day. This is not looking good...
One word: CONTINUANCE
Almost everyone is granted at least 1 continuance. It's standard. Sometimes there are multiple continuances.
This will likely be pushed to the off season, if not plea bargained to a misdimeanor/suspended sentence/probation/fine.
But, who knows. Sean Taylor could fire his lawyer (again) today, then rehire him next week, retire from football, and smoke blunts with Ricky Williams in a Miami ghetto.
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:20 pm
by DEHog
As I've already said, the Redskins seem to be preparing for the upcoming season as if ST we not be there. I think this is the best approach, if there's one thing they've been able to count on with ST... it's that you can't count on him. If Joe Gibbs can't get to him at this time in his life no HC in the NFL can. I really hate to say this, I still think ST is going to be a great player in this league it just may take a few birthdays and a few teams.
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:48 pm
by El Mexican
"Innocent until proven quilty".
Thats a nice idea.
Can you imagine that here in Mexico it works exactly in the opposite way?
You're guilty until proven innocent.
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:01 pm
by SkinsLaVar
U fools are lame to still be talking about this.
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:33 pm
by Deadskins
SkinsLaVar wrote:U fools are lame to still be talking about this.
How many times are you going to post this same message in this thread? If you want it to go away, you are not helping your cause by moving it back to the top of the board every time.