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Ok I'm not arguing any more. That's a fumble right?

He caught the ball and then it came out then we touched him???

I honestly think its our ball. I can see where it could go either way.

NikiH wrote:Ok I'm not arguing any more. That's a fumble right?

He caught the ball and then it came out then we touched him???

Know u r correct.

NikiH wrote:I'm saying he's capable.

No he's not. He's NOT a leader, and that is what this teams needs at that position.

HOSS wrote:i think joe may lose this challenge

Except I don't think that he's challenging the catch but challenging that fact that they didn't call it a fumble. The ball came out before there was any contact. Should be a fumble, recovered by the Skins.

NikiH wrote:I'm not saying he is great. He's obviously not. I'm saying he's capable. He needs the line to block consistantly and then perhaps he can complete those passes.

I disagree. He needs to complete easy passes whenever he has time. He's missed 2-3 easy passes today. Earlier break downs should not effect his play on a future play. If he's scared of getting hit then he needs to take a breather.

I can understand that he's getting rushed a bit but some of his passes today are inexcusable.

I think this game is going to be sloppy with this rain but this is a huge break for us. Even the horrible announcers are agreeing.

NikiH wrote:I think this game is going to be sloppy with this rain but this is a huge break for us. Even the horrible announcers are agreeing.

Sadly we need the refs to agree also. Sean body isn't fully visible so I can see where they can say they dont have enough evidence.

But Chris do you honestly believe Collins can do better? He's our only option once the game starts. And I don't see him doing anything better.

NikiH wrote:

HOSS wrote:i think joe may lose this challenge

Except I don't think that he's challenging the catch but challenging that fact that they didn't call it a fumble. The ball came out before there was any contact. Should be a fumble, recovered by the Skins.

you are correct, i looked at the catching part only

BULL

Just out luck.DAM!

WTF

Another botched call by the refs. How do we make these refs accountable for their screw ups??

NikiH wrote:But Chris do you honestly believe Collins can do better? He's our only option once the game starts. And I don't see him doing anything better.

I could do better.....seriously

NikiH wrote:Another botched call by the refs. How do we make these refs accountable for their screw ups??

WE don't. It's up to the league and, if you're inclined to believe such things, they're in the same boat as the officials.

Siragusa is like a wild bear or some other animal.....shoot him

NikiH wrote:But Chris do you honestly believe Collins can do better? He's our only option once the game starts. And I don't see him doing anything better.

Do I? Possibly yes. We wont ever know will we. All I know is that MB has NOT been able to complete routine passes when given time. The season is on the line and I think we need to try our other option before we hang up the towel. Id hate to see us lose the season with MB04.

He's had has chances today. He's had some adversity. I expect a leader, a veteran to make easy passes when given time. He HAS NOT DONE THAT today. Has not! That CANNOT be argued.

FiveWidez wrote:

NikiH wrote:But Chris do you honestly believe Collins can do better? He's our only option once the game starts. And I don't see him doing anything better.

I could do better.....seriously

I don't see how collins could do any worse. i'd like to see someonr new to see if they can create a spark

LOOK AT OUR DEFENSE STEPPIGN UP!!

IMAGINE IF WE COULD SCORE A TD! WE'd be wiining this game.

Quick question Niki.

Why not try to light a spark with the team before the season is lost? What do we have to lose?

Siragusa is like a wild bear or some other animal.....shoot him

I can't stand him "calling" our games, I wish the internet audio was in sync with the game so I could turn him off

Imaine that.....hose job. They need to hire some younger officials who can actually see...!!!!!!! Good stand D.....now lets enjoy the #8 show...

Chris Luva Luva wrote:LOOK AT OUR DEFENSE STEPPIGN UP!!

IMAGINE IF WE COULD SCORE A TD! WE'd be wiining this game.

I think the D is going to have to score for us.

That was awesome on the defense's part. Let's hope it sparks something.

I saw Collins at the scrimmage and in preseason and I just don't think it's there. I honestly believe that he'll do worse then Brunnell if he were in this situation. I'll support Brunnell until Campbell starts.