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PHILADELPHIA—Is Kirk Cousins the franchise quarterback the Redskins have been searching for?

In the last nine games Cousins sure has been acting like one in his first year as the designated starter. He has 20 touchdown passes and just three interceptions. In those nine games he has had a passer rating of under 100 just twice. The Redskins have gone 6-3 since Cousins heated up including a three-game winning streak that pushed them to the NFC East title.

What makes this interesting beyond the effects on the field is that Cousins is slated to be a free agent after the season. In other words, Cousins is making himself some money.

The Redskins are going to do everything they need to do to hang on to Cousins, up to and including locking him up for 2016 with the franchise tag. That would keep him in Washington for a one-year guaranteed salary of about $19 million.

Even though they will have the cap space to do it, they would rather not go down that road. The $19 million hits the salary cap all at once and that’s a pretty good chunk even out of a cap that is currently estimated to be over $150 million. And if a contract impasse still exists after the season, the tag for a second year is at 120 percent of the previous year’s salary. So then Cousins would be a $23 million quarterback in 2017.

The Redskins probably would like to have more of a track record to go on before deciding on just how big a payday to offer Cousins. They have seen this before. After the rookie season of Robert Griffin III the organization would have offered him the sun, moon, and stars if he was a pending free agent. But injuries and other issues reduced him to a shadow of his old self. If they give a big deal to a quarterback who doesn’t pan out they would have had a massive hole in the salary cap with not much production to show for it.

However, they don’t have more time to make a decision. He will play one more regular season game then one or maybe a few in the playoffs and then the organization will have all of the evidence it will have to figure it out.

It is hard to say what will happen right now. A playoff win or two would greatly enhance his value. The one prediction that can be made with confidence is that Cousins will not hit the open market. He will either be signed or tagged by the franchise designation deadline, which comes eight days prior to the start of free agency.

Countertrey wrote:Why would this even be a question?

EA7649 wrote:Think its interesting. Very true Redskins would have given RG3 a huge contract after his rookie season if he was going to become a free agent. Obviously a nicely structured longer deal is more idea. But franchise him if you can't, let him show the team he is legit a second year. I just hope the front office doesn't structure a deal that really hurts the team's options, for instance the Flacco deal who got way overpaid.

tribeofjudah wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Why would this even be a question?

More like a discussion than a question......thus 22 pages of responses.

SkinsJock wrote:there's a lot of BS speculation going on here

SkinsJock wrote::lol: OK - there's a lot of 'speculating' going on that really does not make sense when you consider who is involved here Cousins is not at all like Flacco - my 'speculation' is that the Redskins will most likely get Cousins signed and Cousins will most likely sign a very lucrative contract

I don't see the Redskins or Cousins having an issue with this as both will not want a contract that either is unhappy with - unless you think that the Redskins or Cousins want to put together a deal that is not good for both sides I don't see that happening here, knowing who is involved

Flacco and his agents were greedy, Cousins is not - PLUS Cousins is going to want to be the QB here - SIMPLE REALLY

Kirk Cousins wants to play QB here and he wants the Redskins to be financially able to add the players he and they both need

I like this speculating stuff

SkinsJock wrote:there's a lot of BS speculation going on here

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:there's a lot of BS speculation going on here

This coming from someone who has yet to substantiate any single opinion with facts.

mastdark81 wrote:First 8 games I would have told you something different but Cousins have improved drastically and they have finally taken the hand cuffs off of him.

He's earned the right to be re-signed. The question is how much to re-sign him for. Do you franchise him knowing he's only had 1 good season (we've seen that story a few times before). Or do you give him a 3-4 year deal and lock him up?

SkinsJock wrote:It's a fact that my main objective here is to mess with those that hate RG3 - screw em

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:It's a fact that my main objective here is to mess with those that hate RG3 - screw em

So, next year when RGIII is playing in Dallas and they hate him will you be on their forums?

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:

mastdark81 wrote:First 8 games I would have told you something different but Cousins has improved drastically and he's earned the right to be re-signed. The question is how much to re-sign him for. Do you franchise him knowing he's only had 1 good season (we've seen that story a few times before). Or do you give him a 3-4 year deal and lock him up?

As much as it takes brotha!!!

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Something I don't understand is... Wasn't the option available to pick up next year for the 2012 draft picks like RGiii? Does it only partain to the first couple rounds?

Can't see us opting out of it, even back then. It'd definitely make more sense for him to negotiate a longer term deal like Wilson has anyhow.. just curious about what happened there.

Skins Fan in Indy wrote:Isnt Alf a free agent as well?

Deadskins wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Something I don't understand is... Wasn't the option available to pick up next year for the 2012 draft picks like RGiii? Does it only partain to the first couple rounds?

Can't see us opting out of it, even back then. It'd definitely make more sense for him to negotiate a longer term deal like Wilson has anyhow.. just curious about what happened there.

It's only first rounders.

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Something I don't understand is... Wasn't the option available to pick up next year for the 2012 draft picks like RGiii? Does it only partain to the first couple rounds?

Can't see us opting out of it, even back then. It'd definitely make more sense for him to negotiate a longer term deal like Wilson has anyhow.. just curious about what happened there.

It's only first rounders.

Really?? Why am I thinking that can't be true... I coulda swore we locked up another player BEFORE deciding to lock up RGiii???

Kerrigan is who Im thinking.. not sure how accurate that is.

Very likely I'm mistaken and you are correct... Just seem to remember Reed or someone else from that class getting the 4th year option picked up?

DEHog wrote:Two questions...
When do contract talks begin?
Does RG get cut before or after (or not get cutat all) before talks begin?