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Red_One43 wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:The more I see of this guy the more I like. I prefer his style of running. Punishing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZEXw3G ... ure=relmfu

I am with you here.

Morris is an average speed back with reportedly above average ZBS running ability, but he's got the POWER! With Ryan Torain gone, We need a power back.

And He Take Pride In His Pass Protection

1niksder wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:The more I see of this guy the more I like. I prefer his style of running. Punishing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZEXw3G ... ure=relmfu

I am with you here.

Morris is an average speed back with reportedly above average ZBS running ability, but he's got the POWER! With Ryan Torain gone, We need a power back.

And He Take Pride In His Pass Protection

With Helu's speed, Royster's consistency and Morris' power and potential as a blitz pick up specialist, is there any reason that Hightower makes this team if he signs here?

I asked earlier for someone to help me understand this pick - help has arrived - I understand this pick.

Well, while we got our franchise QB.....I am a little less enthusiastic about some of the other choices. Of course, I will fess up that I do not follow many college players, and am not the draft stat type that others on the board are.

We drafted offensive lineman....and will have to trust that our scouting and coaching staff made the correct calls there as some linemen taken were ranked lower than where we chose them. I had a 6 hour drive yesterday, and was listening to the draft on NFL radio. Pat Kirwan and Gil Brandt did love our pick for LeRibeus as they said he was a OL with a nasty attitude.....

I had a problem with dropping back several spots in the 4th, then taking Cousins. While I can see the point that we need a backup to develop....just do not concur that our talent level as a whole allowed Shanahan to take Cousins vice others that may have benefitted our team immediately....such as the NT taken by Pitt in the space we gave up, or the OT taken by Arizona in the 112 slot (higher rated on NFL.com than our 71st pick.). Only thing that came out good here is that Beck is gone. I agree with several of the comments that are made by Don Banks in below article WRT Cousins pick:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... index.html

As to the RB....certainly will defer to Shanahan on this as he has a proven track history for spotting talent at that position. However, if you look at his runs last season, he gained less than 20 yds against FLA and MSU....and 85 against Auburn. His big games came against lesser teams with lesser talent. Also looks like he could stand to hit the weight room some more. Did like his attitude/demeanor, but can't really compare competition he played against with Helu (Neb) and Royster (Penn State).

People who respOnd to trolls are just as bad, if not worse than the troll. If you want to get under its skin, ignore it. It's the most hurtful thing u can do.

rskin72 wrote:Well, while we got our franchise QB.....I am a little less enthusiastic about some of the other choices. Of course, I will fess up that I do not follow many college players, and am not the draft stat type that others on the board are.

We drafted offensive lineman....and will have to trust that our scouting and coaching staff made the correct calls there as some linemen taken were ranked lower than where we chose them. I had a 6 hour drive yesterday, and was listening to the draft on NFL radio. Pat Kirwan and Gil Brandt did love our pick for LeRibeus as they said he was a OL with a nasty attitude.....

I had a problem with dropping back several spots in the 4th, then taking Cousins. While I can see the point that we need a backup to develop....just do not concur that our talent level as a whole allowed Shanahan to take Cousins vice others that may have benefitted our team immediately....such as the NT taken by Pitt in the space we gave up, or the OT taken by Arizona in the 112 slot (higher rated on NFL.com than our 71st pick.). Only thing that came out good here is that Beck is gone. I agree with several of the comments that are made by Don Banks in below article WRT Cousins pick:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... index.html

As to the RB....certainly will defer to Shanahan on this as he has a proven track history for spotting talent at that position. However, if you look at his runs last season, he gained less than 20 yds against FLA and MSU....and 85 against Auburn. His big games came against lesser teams with lesser talent. Also looks like he could stand to hit the weight room some more. Did like his attitude/demeanor, but can't really compare competition he played against with Helu (Neb) and Royster (Penn State).

Chris Neild my friend. He is our future at NT wait and see.

Red_One43 wrote:

1niksder wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:The more I see of this guy the more I like. I prefer his style of running. Punishing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZEXw3G ... ure=relmfu

I am with you here.

Morris is an average speed back with reportedly above average ZBS running ability, but he's got the POWER! With Ryan Torain gone, We need a power back.

And He Take Pride In His Pass Protection

With Helu's speed, Royster's consistency and Morris' power and potential as a blitz pick up specialist, is there any reason that Hightower makes this team if he signs here?

I asked earlier for someone to help me understand this pick - help has arrived - I understand this pick.

If Morris is as good as I hope, Hightower is gone. He was good at blocking but his running in the first 3rd of the season was suspect.

Morris reminds me of a slower Ray Rice. He's a short ball of power and balance.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Morris reminds me of a slower Ray Rice. He's a short ball of power and balance.

I know this is before your time Chris but please watch. http://www.schultesports.com/larry-brown

This is what we need and with lots of luck we may have got him.

It's truly sad, that so few have been able to see the work of Larry Brown... Those who were impressed by Portis as a blocker... would have been awed by Brown. As a running back it's rare to see the incredible body control and balance he had. He was NEVER brought down by first contact. If we should be so privilidged to have another such talent, it would be cause for real celebration.

Kilmer72 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Morris reminds me of a slower Ray Rice. He's a short ball of power and balance.

I know this is before your time Chris but please watch. http://www.schultesports.com/larry-brown

This is what we need and with lots of luck we may have got him.

+1

Countertrey wrote:It's truly sad, that so few have been able to see the work of Larry Brown... Those who were impressed by Portis as a blocker... would have been awed by Brown. As a running back it's rare to see the incredible body control and balance he had. He was NEVER brought down by first contact. If we should be so privilidged to have another such talent, it would be cause for real celebration.

+ 1

Final listing:

UK Skins Fan wrote:When somebody posts that the Redskins have a mediocre defensive line and that nose tackle is a need, I stop reading.

how is a guy who never played NT and is undersized and two Rotational - former backups NOt mediocre?

I don't care what Jim haslett tells you. I care how the running backs, particularly at the endof the ear, ran ALL OVER THEM

Anyway, for what it's worth, I give this draft an A++, in respect of the positions that were drafted.

a + + huh? gee, ok redskins fan. a++ is like you dating Angelina Jolie. be realistic. the redskins have never had an "a" draft under Snyder..why would it be this time? because they traded away a bunch of high draft picks to select a former wr now playing qb who had a LOsING record until his senior season in his shotgun, 1 read bubble screen offense against weak competion?

owned.

If you'd told me before the draft that we would draft OL, QB, RB, LB and DB, I'd have been delighted. And now I know that's what we DID draft, I AM delighted.

I'll agree they drafted the right positions, which is to say many positions, because they holes all over the place. they have one of the weakest rosters in the NFL. but they made a mistake drafting the 2nd qb, they got too smart for their own good, and the 3rd round pick had a 7th round grade on him and the other guard will struggle to make the team.

I could paint a picture of total failure at this point, or of potential greatness. But the fact is that I don't know, and neither will anybody for two or three years.

thanks for being the typical wishy washy redskin fan incapable of making a solid prediction.

gee, I dunno, it might b great and might be horrible, we'll just have to wait and see 3 years from now. but I'll give it an A++ grade anyways.

you are a massive failure. owned.

But one thing I do know is that we have POTENTIALLY solidified the quarterback position for a long time. We have two players of great potential but with absolutely no quarterback controversy, unless RGIII sucks until 2014.

and it only took 5 draft picks! (and now comes the fun part....the part every redskin fan HATES......the actual football games.....hang on to the summer....it's your favorite season every year, offseason champs)

Shanahan has drafted more o linemen in his time in DC than Vinny could ever imagine. They haven't all worked out, and I doubt that all three that were drafted this year will work out either. But if one of them does, I call that success.

I gotta put a translator on you because I now realize you happen to be Britains's exporter of crapola.

translating the above: shanahan has drafted a couple of late round lineman, none of whom start, some of barely hanging on to the roster, and is one high pick is one joint away from being kicked out the league for a while and he also let a player go (Reinhart) who graded out as one of the top 10 guards in the NFL last year, drafted by cerrato.

owned. again.

Alfred Morris Is A Classic Shanahan Back

More good stuff on Morris and these draft choices below:

Gettis
Cousins
Robinson
LeRibeus




http://blog.redskins.com/

"Poster": this was for you:

When somebody posts that the Redskins have a mediocre defensive line and that nose tackle is a need, I stop reading.

And this:

I'm still puzzled why somebody who refers to the Redskins as "you" is posting on this site.

To everybody else, sorry. I fed it, and it only came back for more. I won't be responding to it anywhere outside Smack again.

's all good!

Doesn't mean that I won't respond in Smack though. After all, the young fella has his own thread there, and it's already full of garbage.......

That's what smack is for... but, therein lies the rub... no?

Countertrey wrote:That's what smack is for... but, therein lies the rub... no?

Indeed, it's a conundrum, and no mistake Mary Poppins.

Sorry, I'm feeling giddy.

Countertrey wrote:'s all good!

btw - trey thanks for 2 things

the whiff for griff campaign

and

the DFTT campaign

the former was a resounding success .. the latter has been difficult




looking forward to the new guys showing up and trying to make the roster

it's all good guys - this franchise now has RG3

The more I read about Morris, the more I like. Looks like another Shanahan late round gem. Quick cuts, power running, able to break tackles and/or carry guys on his back.
I also like the fact that he can line up as either a tailback or fullback and he takes pride in his blocking abilities.

I think the thing I like best about this draft (aside from the RGIII pick) is that we didn't grab any WRs.

riggofan wrote:I think the thing I like best about this draft (aside from the RGIII pick) is that we didn't grab any WRs.

they've signed about 5 since the draft end though

1niksder wrote:

riggofan wrote:I think the thing I like best about this draft (aside from the RGIII pick) is that we didn't grab any WRs.

they've signed about 5 since the draft end though

They're just live practice targets for the QB's. RGIII is gonna put a lot of work in, no need to run Garcon and co. to death b4 the season.