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Chris Luva Luva wrote:

hanburgerheel wrote:Griffin is not a franchise QB, but he teases enough to appear that way. I see maybe a 4-12, 5-11 season, maybe. Sub-par and salary-capped...

Yes. Amazing insight into a second year player who didn't have any offseason. /sarcasm

P()rter wrote:Careful you will be called a Troll for speaking of RG3 like that. He is our savior!

Good recognition. You're diagnosing plays quicker than our QB!!!

Yea you know being able to read a defense does kinda matter in the NFL!

I hate to say it, but yesterday I Googled my first 2014 NFL Draft websites.

TimSkin wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I'd like to thank my constituents for ignoring the troll during the course of this thread. His post count dropped significantly.

Yep you know they are trolls when their post count is high during our rough periods but once we start playing well they disappear and come back the second something bad happens so they can act like they know everything

LOL I'm glad you recognized that. I was going to point it out, but I had like 6 posts in a row without anyone else speaking.

Mr Flit wrote:Biggest question I have for the fans now is does Mike get his last year or does he go at the end of the season. He's righted the ship alot since he came here. But can he make this team go the extra yard on a consistent basis?

Wasn't Mike up and down in Denver? One good year followed by a bad year?

Mr Flit wrote:Biggest question I have for the fans now is does Mike get his last year or does he go at the end of the season. He's righted the ship alot since he came here. But can he make this team go the extra yard on a consistent basis?

IMO...I think they should put Kirk in with out changing anything. We cannot know how many times our receivers are getting open because RG3 cannot read defense and does not go through his reads. If Kirk comes in w/o any changes to the offense we can better assess where the holes are. I saw plenty of open receivers today, but RG-VICK is unable to hit them. Sad thing is even if Kirk does tear it up no one will want RG3 after this mess. IMO

Mr Flit wrote:Biggest question I have for the fans now is does Mike get his last year or does he go at the end of the season. He's righted the ship alot since he came here. But can he make this team go the extra yard on a consistent basis?

Mike is far from perfect. But you have to keep some consistency. Let Haz go if a statement needs to be made. I think the defense will see a lot of turnover. Fans need to look at where we were and even though it feels the same, it's not. We still have a ways to go.

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:

Mr Flit wrote:Biggest question I have for the fans now is does Mike get his last year or does he go at the end of the season. He's righted the ship alot since he came here. But can he make this team go the extra yard on a consistent basis?

Wasn't Mike up and down in Denver? One good year followed by a bad year?

Its been all bad years...last year was a huge fluke.

Well guys, it's been fan. Family duty calls.

Remember, don't feed the trolls. Ignoring them is so much more satisfying. Just read their posts and chuckle as they say more outlandish things to tempt you. LOL Speaking around them gets under their skin. Reason and logic doesn't works against you when speaking to them.

P()rter wrote:Yea you know being able to read a defense does kinda matter in the NFL!

Yup and for a guy that never did it in college and hardly at all last year I would say he's progressing pretty good. I know you have your own opinions about him but he's doing some things lately in the pocket that he wasn't that the beginning of the year. You can see his footwork improving and he's getting better at going thru his progressions when he has time.

TimSkin wrote:

P()rter wrote:Yea you know being able to read a defense does kinda matter in the NFL!

Yup and for a guy that never did it in college and hardly at all last year I would say he's progressing pretty good. I know you have your own opinions about him but he's doing some things lately in the pocket that he wasn't that the beginning of the year. You can see his footwork improving and he's getting better at going thru his progressions when he has time.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Mr Flit wrote:Biggest question I have for the fans now is does Mike get his last year or does he go at the end of the season. He's righted the ship alot since he came here. But can he make this team go the extra yard on a consistent basis?

Mike is far from perfect. But you have to keep some consistency. Let Haz go if a statement needs to be made. I think the defense will see a lot of turnover. Fans need to look at where we were and even though it feels the same, it's not. We still have a ways to go.

This is good sense, given we'll have $36 Million back would you move back to a 4-3 given though that's where a lot of the good defensive players will be available via free agency?

Did Mike have his best years in a 4-3?

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TimSkin wrote:

P()rter wrote:Yea you know being able to read a defense does kinda matter in the NFL!

Yup and for a guy that never did it in college and hardly at all last year I would say he's progressing pretty good. I know you have your own opinions about him but he's doing some things lately in the pocket that he wasn't that the beginning of the year. You can see his footwork improving and he's getting better at going thru his progressions when he has time.

LOL I forget that logic just doesn't work at times

TimSkin wrote:

P()rter wrote:Yea you know being able to read a defense does kinda matter in the NFL!

Yup and for a guy that never did it in college and hardly at all last year I would say he's progressing pretty good. I know you have your own opinions about him but he's doing some things lately in the pocket that he wasn't that the beginning of the year. You can see his footwork improving and he's getting better at going thru his progressions when he has time.

Really? What games have you been watching?

Mr Flit wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Mr Flit wrote:Biggest question I have for the fans now is does Mike get his last year or does he go at the end of the season. He's righted the ship alot since he came here. But can he make this team go the extra yard on a consistent basis?

Mike is far from perfect. But you have to keep some consistency. Let Haz go if a statement needs to be made. I think the defense will see a lot of turnover. Fans need to look at where we were and even though it feels the same, it's not. We still have a ways to go.

This is good sense, given we'll have $36 Million back would you move back to a 4-3 given though that's where a lot of the good defensive players will be available via free agency?

Did Mike have his best years in a 4-3?

4-3/ 3-4 I don't care as long as we can collapse the pocket more than what we were doing

Well Chris when you're right you're right... Whatever happened to that big pic of the troll somebody used to put on here for that Browns fan that said scroll the troll?? I loved that lol

So, a troll is anyone who disagrees with the status quo? Got it. I'm a troll then.

You can defend, rationalize, justify, and generally adhere to the "old way" all you want. You can bash me, or anyone else who disagrees, as a troll. But, the records speak louder. Shanny has a dismal record here. DISMAL! The defense is atrocious now and the offense is sporadic. So, when you can pull away from calling me a troll and realize what is happening, it will serve you better.

Shanahan definitely gets to finish out his contract, since next year we get our salary cap back. Lets see what he does on the same playing field as everyone else.


I don't follow college ball... Does it look like a good MLB will be available when we pick high in the 2nd round?

hanburgerheel wrote:So, a troll is anyone who disagrees with the status quo? Got it. I'm a troll then.

You can defend, rationalize, justify, and generally adhere to the "old way" all you want. You can bash me, or anyone else who disagrees, as a troll. But, the records speak louder. Shanny has a dismal record here. DISMAL! The defense is atrocious now and the offense is sporadic. So, when you can pull away from calling me a troll and realize what is happening, it will serve you better.

Wasting your breath..I have tried all day. I don't believe in RG3 and he proves it week in and week out. Yet I am a troll. #confused

TimSkin wrote:

P()rter wrote:Yea you know being able to read a defense does kinda matter in the NFL!

Yup and for a guy that never did it in college and hardly at all last year I would say he's progressing pretty good. I know you have your own opinions about him but he's doing some things lately in the pocket that he wasn't that the beginning of the year. You can see his footwork improving and he's getting better at going thru his progressions when he has time.

Didn't Breezy get released from SD before becoming.one of the best in the game?
The win now mentality of this fan base has no patience. Imo Haz has to go... And we MUST sign a true number one wide out (tall and fast preferably) and a hog or three for the interior line. Replacing Fletcher is a priority and hopefully some of the young dbs can pan out. Rgiii is the least of our worries, he will continue to improve and connect the dots; shame his rookie blues are outlined with poor supporting cast on D, poor oline play forcing even quicker decisions, and wide outs who can't get a lot of separation. Staying hopeful this can lead to developing his skills even better in the end. OR Hell just be scared and gun shy...

Watching presser right now. Every question about RG3 has been ignored, and skipped over. A reporter asked him a question about RG3's performance and it was skipped over? WTF

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:

TimSkin wrote:

P()rter wrote:Yea you know being able to read a defense does kinda matter in the NFL!

Yup and for a guy that never did it in college and hardly at all last year I would say he's progressing pretty good. I know you have your own opinions about him but he's doing some things lately in the pocket that he wasn't that the beginning of the year. You can see his footwork improving and he's getting better at going thru his progressions when he has time.

Didn't Breezy get released from SD before becoming.one of the best in the game?
The win now mentality of this fan base has no patience. Imo Haz has to go... And we MUST sign a true number one wide out (tall and fast preferably) and a hog or three for the interior line. Replacing Fletcher is a priority and hopefully some of the young dbs can pan out. Rgiii is the least of our worries, he will continue to improve and connect the dots; shame his rookie blues are outlined with poor supporting cast on D, poor oline play forcing even quicker decisions, and wide outs who can't get a lot of separation. Staying hopeful this can lead to developing his skills even better in the end. OR Hell just be scared and gun shy...

+1 Couldn't have said it better myself Great post man

P()rter wrote:Watching presser right now. Every question about RG3 has been ignored, and skipped over. A reporter asked him a question about RG3's performance and it was skipped over? WTF

OMFG are you really comparing RG3 to Drew Breeze? LMFAO...now we have entered retarded mode!

TimSkin wrote:Well Chris when you're right you're right... Whatever happened to that big pic of the troll somebody used to put on here for that Browns fan that said scroll the troll?? I loved that lol

Honestly, I hated that and think it's counter-productive. Ignoring a troll is easy: you scroll past their name and read the next post. However, turning that single turd into what equates to a double-troll-post with a big graphic kinda defeats the purpose of not giving the troll recognition.

hanburgerheel wrote:So, a troll is anyone who disagrees with the status quo? Got it. I'm a troll then.

You can defend, rationalize, justify, and generally adhere to the "old way" all you want. You can bash me, or anyone else who disagrees, as a troll. But, the records speak louder. Shanny has a dismal record here. DISMAL! The defense is atrocious now and the offense is sporadic. So, when you can pull away from calling me a troll and realize what is happening, it will serve you better.

I don't think you're a troll since your comments are actually ones that have points and why you feel that way.... You're not saying the same stupid thing over and over

btw here's Drew's career stats and as you can see he didn't start playing lights out till his 4th season....Isn't RG3 in his 2nd? http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/i ... drew-brees