Gotta Start Cousins 16 Times This Year...

[SkinsJock]

OK - BIG thanks for confirming what I've thought ...

hypothetically ... Scot decides the Redskins need a new HC and the information he's getting is that Griffin has benefitted from his time away - we now have 2 QBs in Cousins and Griffin and a new HC - the FO makes Griffin a FA so he can test the market and Griffin realizes he has an owner (Dan Snyder) that will support the FO in giving Griffin a decent contract that he obviously is not getting elsewhere

now this only works if Griffin has shown that he can play QB, so don't come up with any BS that he can't - that's not a part of this scenario

[SkinsJock]

Wow, you questioning whether Griffin is going to be worth anything to anyone? I'm not commenting to rub your nose in diminished confidence in him I am just surprised that you one of the most loyal Griffin supporters questions his value.
For the record I expect Gruden to retained and Cousins to be at least offered a competitive extension.

For the record - I expect Gruden to not be here next season ... so now we're left with super back-up QB Kirk Cousins and a new HC and Robert Griffin III who is the owner's pet - I think you know where that is headed

9 games to go and this next one is a really good test for both Gruden and Cousins

I'm actually looking forward to this all playing out and seeing who wants it badly enough - the way I see it, the franchise is getting better no matter what happens

[OldSchool]

SJ has quit on our coach and our QB all in the hope of seeing Griffin rise from the discard pile.

I am on record also SJ and I say the Skins will win 3 or 4 more this year, Gruden will be back, Griffin released and the Skins will attempt to extend Cousins. We shall see.

[SkinsJock]

I have not quit on anyone here - unlike you, I am a Redskins fan and I support whoever is playing or coaching here

I am looking forward to seeing this franchise get better and I believe that Scot will have the coaches and players in place shortly

I do not think that Jay Gruden is the long term solution here although there's a very good chance that Kirk Cousins could be here in 2016 either as the starter or as a good back-up which is what he is - I also believe that Griffin might be a part of this squad in 2016

it's all good and hopefully these guys can both do their jobs well enough to be a part of things here for the next 9 games

[OldSchool]

I have not quit on anyone here - unlike you, I am a Redskins fan and I support whoever is playing or coaching here

I am looking forward to seeing this franchise get better and I believe that Scot will have the coaches and players in place shortly

I do not think that Jay Gruden is the long term solution here although there's a very good chance that Kirk Cousins could be here in 2016 either as the starter or as a good back-up which is what he is - I also believe that Griffin might be a part of this squad in 2016

it's all good and hopefully these guys can both do their jobs well enough to be a part of things here for the next 9 games

Gruden isn't going to be here and if Cousins is here he'll be a backup, but you're not quitting on them…. Okay whatever....

[OldSchool]

I thought Cousins played a smart game today and did well to keep his composure and kept firing strikes even when his receivers made so many drops, I believe the announcers said 7. Kirk continued to play within himself and made good decisions. He made so many good decisions and throws today it would have been interesting how close it would've been if his receivers had played well also.

He keep his poised today after his teammates made numerous mistakes. This game is another positive for Cousins.

[SkinsJock]

me too OS - Loved the game by Cousins but the dropped passes are not good and his mentor Gruden (who you seem to think is a good HC) looked lost today - this was not a good showing for a team coming off the bye - good players find a way to make plays and Cousins had too many incompletions and the first pass was intercepted, not a good start - the Redskins had 1 play on offense and the next time they snapped the ball they were behind 14-0 - that is an atrocious way to start a game after a bye

8 more games to go for these 2 and IMO 1 of them will not be here next season

[SkinsJock]

So if Cousins receivers catch all the balls it's because Cousins is playing well but if they drop the balls it's because the receivers are not playing well - give me a break - not saying that Cousins did not play well but ... just saying

we're at 3-5, anyway you look at it

[hitmandm]

The Redskins cannot run because teams cheat up the noodle armed Cousins. He has weak arm and cant throw deep with accuracy. Garbage time TDs are worthless. The Redskins again looked incompetent and poorly coached.

Gruden is fired. He is not a HC in this league and his double crossing of Snyder will cause him not to be hired by anyone else ether. The guy is fat, dumb and clueless. Not only ruined RG3 but what the hell is he doing with our three time 1000+ yard rushing pro bowl RB? His fat ass needs to be on the buffet line on Sunday and not in the NFL. I think with all the firings in the league, firing Gruden mid season wont be a big problem. I don't think it will happen unfortunately but the sooner we get rid of him the better.

Cousins is a great backup QB. He is not a starter and will never be a starter. We should extend Cousins as our backup QB.

RG3 needs a chance.

[PulpExposure]

RG3 needs a chance.

No.

[EA7649]

I say the Skins will win 3 or 4 more this year, Gruden will be back, Griffin released and the Skins will attempt to extend Cousins. We shall see.

If the skins win 3 or 4 more games and Cousins plays consistently you are going to be correct. I think the games we really can win are Chicago and a division game. But, for two years in a row it was supposed to be an easy win against Tampa. We shall see. After the season it will be clear what the decision will be. I personally think if there are 2 wins or less, Gruden should be gone, Kirk should be resigned as a backup and if a suitable starter isn't on the team, then he can start.

By the way I agree with what you for the most part, about what you wrote about the Pats game. I was impressed with his composure and felt his throwing was okay to good.

[StorminMormon86]

If the 7 dropped passes were caught, Kirk's stats would look something like 29/40 with 300+ yards, and who knows how the game would have turned out. We would have lost, but his numbers would have been better.

[OldSchool]

Cousins played another good game, I agree with Storming Mormon that Kirk would've have 29-30 catches if his receivers hadn't dropped 7-9 balls. He's putting together quite a few good games and yesterday Kirk was one of the few Redskins that looked like he belonged in the game against the Pats.

Kirk is going be starting the 3-5 years somewhere next fall because he is going to get a multi-year starters contract here but it might be surpassed by another franchises offer. SJ, that is your hope Kirk signs with another franchise.

[SkinsJock]

I want Cousins to take the next step - this is his season to clearly prove that he's not just a good backup QB who has a problem with turning the ball over - I don't know if he can do that, it would be great for him and for this franchise if he could - we have an owner that will pay big bucks for a good starting QB and Kirk may well be that QB even without a whole lot of improvement, but he has to show it and he's not - if his receivers don't help him out it's on him to make them better - the QB for the Redskins is a huge amount of pressure and I don't know that Kirk has that mental toughness - he might be good enough to be our starter next season but at this time that's not saying much

Kirk looking "composed", as you said, is a long way from what we need in a starting QB - BG&F says that Kirk reminds him of Favre and Elway - where the hell is that comparison coming from - Kirk's a composer, we need a QB that's a leader

[Deadskins]

If the 7 dropped passes were caught, Kirk's stats would look something like 29/40 with 300+ yards, and who knows how the game would have turned out. We would have lost, but his numbers would have been better.

Seems like you know.
And, weren't you one of those who criticized other posters for using hypotheticals to defend the QB of their choice? Not that I disagree, just sayin'.

[SkinsJock]

It's just pissing me off - the receivers aren't catching the ball, the RBs are not getting a lot of yards on the ground, the defense is giving up too many yards and points and not creating turnovers - if we could correct all those little things, Kirk Cousins could have helped the offense a lot more than he already did and while we might still have lost, it would have been a whole lot closer ...

oh well, I'm sure the bye week contributed to some of the issues - let's move on to the Saints - they have been looking very vulnerable

[StorminMormon86]

If the 7 dropped passes were caught, Kirk's stats would look something like 29/40 with 300+ yards, and who knows how the game would have turned out. We would have lost, but his numbers would have been better.

Seems like you know.
And, weren't you one of those who criticized other posters for using hypotheticals to defend the QB of their choice? Not that I disagree, just sayin'.

Would have been a closer game, and Kirk wouldn't have gotten the unjust criticism he's getting.

And what hypotheticals are you speaking of? Those 7 dropped balls were catchable. There's nothing hypothetical about that at all. Now if I were to continually blame the offensive line for Kirk's struggles, despite piss poor numbers being put up, that might be a hypothetical. Like if I said, "IF ONLY WE HAD A GOOD OFFENSIVE LINE", or made excuses for Kirk changing the protection which resulted in him getting a concussion, then yes, that would be hypothetical.

[Deadskins]

If the 7 dropped passes were caught, Kirk's stats would look something like 29/40 with 300+ yards, and who knows how the game would have turned out. We would have lost, but his numbers would have been better.

Seems like you know.
And, weren't you one of those who criticized other posters for using hypotheticals to defend the QB of their choice? Not that I disagree, just sayin'.

Would have been a closer game, and Kirk wouldn't have gotten the unjust criticism he's getting.

And what hypotheticals are you speaking of? Those 7 dropped balls were catchable. There's nothing hypothetical about that at all.

If the 7 dropped passes were caught

That is just as hypothetical as saying "if he had a better O-line."
And, FTR, I don't disagree that the receivers should have caught those balls, and that Kirk played a good game. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[SkinsJock]

Many of us knew what the result would be - no big deal and we're still 3-5 but the fire was not there - we had 1 offensive play and by the time we got the ball again on offense we were down 14-0 - THAT is totally unacceptable - that is just a horrible indictment against the coaches

Kirk Cousins played very well - hooray - that's not the thing here - we need Kirk Cousins to show that he can be the leader of this team - that doesn't mean he just needs "to play well" - he's just like Jay Gruden - he needs to do a much better job in order to be back here next season

If Kirk's main focus is just to be a starting QB and get a big paycheck well, hooray for him - I hope he gets his wish and I hope he's not here - Scot wants winners here, not just guys that want to start and get a big paycheck - we need Kirk Cousins to be the Brett Favre QB that BG&F says he can be not the wimp that has a good game every now and then and says "well, I did my job, I can't help it if those other guys don't ..."

Kirk Cousins is the starting QB here and he deserves to be but if he doesn't take the next step soon, then he maybe should be replaced - he's letting himself down - if he can do better then he better pick it up soon & clearly show it - if not, he will be sorry

[OldSchool]

SJ and the Cousins bashers have nothing intelligent to say today. Kirk did everything a coach or a reasonable fan could ask of him yesterday, add another good game by Kirk to his impressive first year starter record. He gets an A+ for his good decisions, composure and accurate throws.

I remember 1 bad throw, he underthrew someone while under pressure. Throughout he stayed composed and tall in the pocket, maneuvering to buy time and make the correct throw. Any reasonable and knowledgeable observer who saw 7-9 well timed and well thrown balls get dropped yesterday understands Cousins did a great job without adequate support yesterday. Cousins topped off his good performance on the field by showing leadership when refused to throw his receivers under the bus or complain about the fumbles and lack of a running game. RGBust would have told us all about the great job he done and criticized his teammates. We know that because he routinely threw his line under the bus.

[riggofan]

Kirk Cousins played very well - hooray - that's not the thing here - we need Kirk Cousins to show that he can be the leader of this team - that doesn't mean he just needs "to play well" - he's just like Jay Gruden - he needs to do a much better job in order to be back here next season

You heard it here, Kirk. You don't just need to play well. You need to also "do better".

[StorminMormon86]

And, FTR, I don't disagree that the receivers should have caught those balls, and that Kirk played a good game. Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Nevermind. You're right.

[SkinsJock]

I'm just enjoying that the QB had a good day and the offense did not but it's not even partly the QB's fault ... oh no! couldn't be ....

Kirk's the one who screamed "YOU LIKE THAT" as if it was all on him - well, he gets to 'enjoy it' when it doesn't go so well either

just be nice to see this kid show that he's got "it" - I'm still not sure that he can

seems like Kirk's just trying to get that big contract and he's not doing whatever it takes to show that he's a really good NFL QB & leader

Don't get me wrong here, I don't want to see Griffin on the field this season but when we do you will not see him playing like he doesn't want to make a mistake - you also will not feel pleased that he's so composed out there

When Robert Griffin III plays QB, he is having fun and trying to help his team win - there's a big difference

[StorminMormon86]

seems like Kirk's just trying to get that big contract and he's not doing whatever it takes to show that he's a really good NFL QB & leader

[Deadskins]

seems like Kirk's just trying to get that big contract and he's not doing whatever it takes to show that he's a really good NFL QB & leader