StorminMormon86 wrote:People need to stop with the Obama crap...he was asked a question by a reporter and simply said if he was the owner he'd "think about changing the name"...not that he would, or that Snyder should, just that if he were the OWNER he would consider it. He didn't "weigh in" at all, he simply answered a question.
Thank you. Your best post EVER.
He said far more than that... of course, it would not have helped make your point... but... let's just pretend he didn't.
That's nonsense. StorminMormom is exactly right that Obama didn't just jump in on the issue. He was ASKED by a reporter.
I just re-watched the entire 70 second comment that Obama made, and I would LOVE to know what you think qualifies as "far more" in his comments. Please enlighten us.
A proper response to the question would've been "no comment"...
A proper response from any grown man to any question is whatever that grown man chooses to say. No matter whether we disagree with it or not. Didn't we (collective, not just you and I) already cover this ground with Griffin's press conferences over the summer?
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
grampi wrote:79% of native Americans polled said they DON'T find the team name "Redskins" offensive, so even the majority of the people claimed to be offended by the team name are not offended by it...to me this sounds like a classic example of yet another attempt by a few fringe lefties trying to use PC to force a vast majority to make concessions to please a few whiners...
Agree that it is highly annoying when fringe morons throw temper tantrums and whine and try to force their way or world view onto the majority without regard for the consequences simply because they can.
Its like dealing with children, I swear.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
StorminMormon86 wrote:People need to stop with the Obama crap...he was asked a question by a reporter and simply said if he was the owner he'd "think about changing the name"...not that he would, or that Snyder should, just that if he were the OWNER he would consider it. He didn't "weigh in" at all, he simply answered a question.
Thank you. Your best post EVER.
He said far more than that... of course, it would not have helped make your point... but... let's just pretend he didn't.
That's nonsense. StorminMormom is exactly right that Obama didn't just jump in on the issue. He was ASKED by a reporter.
I just re-watched the entire 70 second comment that Obama made, and I would LOVE to know what you think qualifies as "far more" in his comments. Please enlighten us.
A proper response to the question would've been "no comment"...
A proper response from any grown man to any question is whatever that grown man chooses to say. No matter whether we disagree with it or not. Didn't we (collective, not just you and I) already cover this ground with Griffin's press conferences over the summer?
For real. Grampi is just mad because the black President is getting all uppity. Tea Party don't like that.
riggofan wrote:For real. Grampi is just mad because the black President is getting all uppity. Tea Party don't like that.
Folks, this topic is politically charged, but let's not make this a thread on politics. Feel free to start one in the Lounge if you want to continue the Obama talk.
riggofan wrote:For real. Grampi is just mad because the black President is getting all uppity. Tea Party don't like that.
Folks, this topic is politically charged, but let's not make this a thread on politics. Feel free to start one in the Lounge if you want to continue the Obama talk.
Thanks.
And of course. Nobody ever posts this warning until somebody defends the president.
I would LOVE to not interject politics in here. So how about the rest of these guys stop making the nasty comments about the commander in chief from the get-go? You can do that all day on foxnews.com.
I certainly didn't see you jump in here to moderate two dozen posts ago when posters start throwing around the term "libtard" and complaining about the war on christmas.
I think there's a degree of (i) "see if they can stay on the right side of politics vs. sports/redskins", (ii) "see if they can stay the course and not get overly politicized about the politics involved in a given topic (hell, this is a thread about changing the name, which is inherently a quasi political issue anyway)", (iii) "the moderators have jobs, too" and (iv) "give them a chance to at least have a back and forth before an admonishment" at play.
In other words, I'd give the mods, particularly Irn-Bru, but all of them, really, a bit more benefit of the doubt in this case. Before you can warn, you have to actually have pattern of devolution into political back and forth established.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
riggofan wrote:For real. Grampi is just mad because the black President is getting all uppity. Tea Party don't like that.
Folks, this topic is politically charged, but let's not make this a thread on politics. Feel free to start one in the Lounge if you want to continue the Obama talk.
Thanks.
And of course. Nobody ever posts this warning until somebody defends the president.
Naw not Bru.. he keeps the threads very level my friend. He's always the one guy that will direct us to another section for us to continue our ramblings and he doesn't show any prejudice.
Now me on the other hand.. I'll messup a good post anyday.
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emoses14 wrote:In other words, I'd give the mods, particularly Irn-Bru, but all of them, really, a bit more benefit of the doubt in this case. Before you can warn, you have to actually have pattern of devolution into political back and forth established.
I get that. And its unfair of me to complain about the mod.
I still think though that the warnings seem to come out a little late. Its always the retaliation that draws the flag.
emoses14 wrote:In other words, I'd give the mods, particularly Irn-Bru, but all of them, really, a bit more benefit of the doubt in this case. Before you can warn, you have to actually have pattern of devolution into political back and forth established.
I get that. And its unfair of me to complain about the mod.
I still think though that the warnings seem to come out a little late. Its always the retaliation that draws the flag.
As SkinsJock might say, no worries, mate.
I did quote your post (and removed previous quotes to keep the post from being too long), but the reminder was general and meant for everyone in the thread who was veering off into politics. Yes, equally for those dragging out criticisms of Obama as well as those defending him. One or two comments are OK, but once we get back-and-forths with extended elements . . . nothing wrong with doing that, as long as it's continued in the Lounge and not Hogwash.
StorminMormon86 wrote:People need to stop with the Obama crap...he was asked a question by a reporter and simply said if he was the owner he'd "think about changing the name"...not that he would, or that Snyder should, just that if he were the OWNER he would consider it. He didn't "weigh in" at all, he simply answered a question.
Thank you. Your best post EVER.
He said far more than that... of course, it would not have helped make your point... but... let's just pretend he didn't.
That's nonsense. StorminMormom is exactly right that Obama didn't just jump in on the issue. He was ASKED by a reporter.
I just re-watched the entire 70 second comment that Obama made, and I would LOVE to know what you think qualifies as "far more" in his comments. Please enlighten us.
StorminMormon86 wrote:People need to stop with the Obama crap...he was asked a question by a reporter and simply said if he was the owner he'd "think about changing the name"...not that he would, or that Snyder should, just that if he were the OWNER he would consider it. He didn't "weigh in" at all, he simply answered a question.
Thank you. Your best post EVER.
He said far more than that... of course, it would not have helped make your point... but... let's just pretend he didn't.
That's nonsense. StorminMormom is exactly right that Obama didn't just jump in on the issue. He was ASKED by a reporter.
I just re-watched the entire 70 second comment that Obama made, and I would LOVE to know what you think qualifies as "far more" in his comments. Please enlighten us.
A proper response to the question would've been "no comment"...
A proper response from any grown man to any question is whatever that grown man chooses to say. No matter whether we disagree with it or not.
Then don't whine about other people's responses to his response...
I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I suggest you check the thread first. I never said squat about other people's responses. Which misses the point, predictably, still. My comment was that a man's response to a QUESTION isn't improper just because you think it is. More pointedly, my comment was that a man can respond to a QUESTION with something more than "no comment" if he chooses and your desire for him not to is irrelevant.
No one asked you a damn thing.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
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StorminMormon86 wrote:People need to stop with the Obama crap...he was asked a question by a reporter and simply said if he was the owner he'd "think about changing the name"...not that he would, or that Snyder should, just that if he were the OWNER he would consider it. He didn't "weigh in" at all, he simply answered a question.
Thank you. Your best post EVER.
He said far more than that... of course, it would not have helped make your point... but... let's just pretend he didn't.
That's nonsense. StorminMormom is exactly right that Obama didn't just jump in on the issue. He was ASKED by a reporter.
I just re-watched the entire 70 second comment that Obama made, and I would LOVE to know what you think qualifies as "far more" in his comments. Please enlighten us.
A proper response to the question would've been "no comment"...
A proper response from any grown man to any question is whatever that grown man chooses to say. No matter whether we disagree with it or not.
Then don't whine about other people's responses to his response...
I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I suggest you check the thread first. I never said squat about other people's responses. Which misses the point, predictably, still. My comment was that a man's response to a QUESTION isn't improper just because you think it is. More pointedly, my comment was that a man can respond to a QUESTION with something more than "no comment" if he chooses and your desire for him not to is irrelevant.
No one asked you a damn thing.
And I'm saying if the man chooses to make a public statement on the subject, then the public has every right to comment on his comment, and if other people don't like it, tough crap! Whatever you think of that is irrelevant...
StorminMormon86 wrote:People need to stop with the Obama crap...he was asked a question by a reporter and simply said if he was the owner he'd "think about changing the name"...not that he would, or that Snyder should, just that if he were the OWNER he would consider it. He didn't "weigh in" at all, he simply answered a question.
Thank you. Your best post EVER.
He said far more than that... of course, it would not have helped make your point... but... let's just pretend he didn't.
That's nonsense. StorminMormom is exactly right that Obama didn't just jump in on the issue. He was ASKED by a reporter.
I just re-watched the entire 70 second comment that Obama made, and I would LOVE to know what you think qualifies as "far more" in his comments. Please enlighten us.
A proper response to the question would've been "no comment"...
A proper response from any grown man to any question is whatever that grown man chooses to say. No matter whether we disagree with it or not.
Then don't whine about other people's responses to his response...
I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I suggest you check the thread first. I never said squat about other people's responses. Which misses the point, predictably, still. My comment was that a man's response to a QUESTION isn't improper just because you think it is. More pointedly, my comment was that a man can respond to a QUESTION with something more than "no comment" if he chooses and your desire for him not to is irrelevant.
No one asked you a damn thing.
And I'm saying if the man chooses to make a public statement on the subject, then the public has every right to comment on his comment, and if other people don't like it, tough crap! Whatever you think of that is irrelevant...
Sure, intelligent commentary on the substance of his comment from adults is always welcome and helpful. Paternalistic commentary about what he should have said, not so much.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
I believe that Irn-Bru has provided some guidance on how this discussion should proceed. If anyone wants to continue in an off-topic direction... please take it to the lounge or, perhaps better... to Smack.
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