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Way to keep fighting by Cousins. It was about as ugly a game as you can watch

I think that was a positive loss, if there is such a thing

EA7649 wrote:I think that was a positive loss, if there is such a thing

Yeah, like the Philly game. If you gotta lose, that's not a bad way to lose.

With the all the mishaps of the Hawks and come out with a nice win, they are a championship team. Kuddos to the Hawks.

hanburgerheel wrote:

EA7649 wrote:I think that was a positive loss, if there is such a thing

Yeah, like the Philly game. If you gotta lose, that's not a bad way to lose.

I was impressed. I expected worse.

44diesel wrote:No holding penalty called on the guy blocking orakpo.

Nope, but orakpo sucks, apparently.

I think this was a good night for the Redskins. The defense rallied and had some moments against the champs while the offense played decently. Special teams are awful and the onside kick put the Skins in poor field position, but the played hard against the champs.

Kirk Cousins played very well tonight. He played from behind and under pressure but he played composed and smart. I was very impressed with his job against the Seahawks defense. He had a couple of nice long throws too. A comeback night for Kirk. Maybe they can beat the Cardinals, after watching this game I think they have a shot.

NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:Wilson displays exacly what Griffin lacks and will always lack

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Robert isn't even in the game. Give him a break[/quote]

And Wilson is in the game. That is the issue. Paid a lot for a QB who is at home.[/quote]

He's on the sideline. actually. He's hurt, it's football, hitch up your skirt and get over it. Jesus h Christ.[/quote]

That's not the point fella[/quote]
So what is the point, bub?

EA7649 wrote:I think that was a positive loss, if there is such a thing

If those three TD's weren't called back, I think your tune would be different. I'm not saying the Skins didn't fight hard, but there is not much positive about the loss. This team is outmatched by the majority of NFL teams.

Is it just me or does R. Wilson belong on a classier team than Seattle?

emoses14 wrote:

NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:Wilson displays exacly what Griffin lacks and will always lack

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Robert isn't even in the game. Give him a break

And Wilson is in the game. That is the issue. Paid a lot for a QB who is at home.[/quote]


That's not the point fella[/quote]
So what is the point, bub?[/quote]

I'm going to bed. Help us Lord

NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:

EA7649 wrote:I think that was a positive loss, if there is such a thing

If those three TD's weren't called back, I think your tune would be different. I'm not saying the Skins didn't fight hard, but there is not much positive about the loss. This team is outmatched by the majority of NFL teams.

Caught some big breaks. Good confidence booster, hopefully not too much confidence like the eagles game and giants game

emoses14 wrote:

NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:Wilson displays exacly what Griffin lacks and will always lack

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So what is the point, bub?

The point is Griffin is a bust. Get used to him on the sidelines now or later.

hanburgerheel wrote:

emoses14 wrote:

NYFINESTSKINSFAN wrote:Wilson displays exacly what Griffin lacks and will always lack

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So what is the point, bub?

The point is Griffin is a bust. Get used to him on the sidelines now or later.

Way too early to start throwing the B word around

emoses14 wrote:

44diesel wrote:No holding penalty called on the guy blocking orakpo.

Nope, but orakpo sucks, apparently.

lol... I wouldn't say he sucks but he doesn't need 11 million either. Money could be spent better.

OldSchool wrote:I think this was a good night for the Redskins. The defense rallied and had some moments against the champs while the offense played decently. Special teams are awful and the onside kick put the Skins in poor field position, but the played hard against the champs.

Kirk Cousins played very well tonight. He played from behind and under pressure but he played composed and smart. I was very impressed with his job against the Seahawks defense. He had a couple of nice long throws too. A comeback night for Kirk. Maybe they can beat the Cardinals, after watching this game I think they have a shot.

This might be the first time I would agree with you. Yes Cousins looked ok. He was under pressure the same pressure that any QB would be under. Defense looked ok at the end of the first half and looked even better in most of the second half. Wasn't good enough though. I still blame the ST call (that kick) Penalties weren't bad either and we caught breaks. First time in a long time. Too bad we lost.

Kilmer72 wrote:

OldSchool wrote:I think this was a good night for the Redskins. The defense rallied and had some moments against the champs while the offense played decently. Special teams are awful and the onside kick put the Skins in poor field position, but the played hard against the champs.

Kirk Cousins played very well tonight. He played from behind and under pressure but he played composed and smart. I was very impressed with his job against the Seahawks defense. He had a couple of nice long throws too. A comeback night for Kirk. Maybe they can beat the Cardinals, after watching this game I think they have a shot.

This might be the first time I would agree with you. Yes Cousins looked ok. He was under pressure the same pressure that any QB would be under. Defense looked ok at the end of the first half and looked even better in most of the second half. Wasn't good enough though. I still blame the ST call (that kick) Penalties weren't bad either and we caught breaks. First time in a long time. Too bad we lost.

In my opinion Kirk has played very well in 3 games and awful in 1. Judging by tonight's performance he learned from his nightmare against the Giants. Kirk stuck to his game and force things when they got behind. Three good performances out of 4 thus far this season, I think he can play smart regularly and help his team start winning. Washington finally has a QB.

Kirk has won 1 game dude. 1 game and not more than 1 that he has started. W and L is a good stat to go by right?

First post here! I liked some things about tonights game. Kirk played well. D played good 1/2 the game. Onside kick really was a bad call in my mind after a score and it really cost us in field position the whole second half. I’m not sure about our kickers but we seem to be the only team that can’t kick the ball out of the end zone. Other than that, we played much better than the giants game.

How I long for the old days, back when the Redskins had no excitement on draft day because Bobby Beathard had already traded the top three draft picks to other teams in exchange for proven players. Despite having those three Super Bowl rings during the Gibbs years, most of those teams were not dominant teams. They were "very good" teams that typically won it in years when the other powerhouses had an off year. I remember one broadcast where John Madden quoted Joe Gibbs as saying "We want to be one of the 'lookout teams' as in 'Lookout for the Redskins.'" As good as we were, we were not feared as much as New York and San Francisco. We never needed a savior. We just needed some guys on the team to step up their games.

Part of what has changed in the Snyder era is that we now need a superstar to carry us. Griffin or Cousins or Orakpo needs to be the savior. And every year the problem is the same: The Redskins have no depth. Hmm. Maybe there is a connection there?

Stop overpaying. Get a team of all above-average guys and see if a few of them can step up their games. Shun the superstar saviors who just give us one heartbreak season after another.

Kilmer72 wrote:Kirk has won 1 game dude. 1 game and not more than 1 that he has started. W and L is a good stat to go by right?

Okay let's talk wins and losses After his 2012 injury Griffin is 3-11 and looks utterly pathetic. His hapless play cost the Skins the Texan's game, Cousins would have won it.

Had he played tonight Griffin would've been sacked 6-7 times and gotten battered drifting out of the pocket to the right like he does when he tries to remember what they told him to do in practice. Mercifully, his more able teammate played and made a game of it.

There are 11 more games, I think Couisins will put together a nice string of wins and give the new staff something to build on going into the draft.

OldSchool wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:Kirk has won 1 game dude. 1 game and not more than 1 that he has started. W and L is a good stat to go by right?

Okay let's talk wins and losses After his 2012 injury Griffin is 3-11 and looks utterly pathetic. His hapless play cost the Skins the Texan's game, Cousins would have won it.

Had he played tonight Griffin would've been sacked 6-7 times and gotten battered drifting out of the pocket to the right like he does when he tries to remember what they told him to do in practice. Mercifully, his more able teammate played and made a game of it.

There are 11 more games, I think Couisins will put together a nice string of wins and give the new staff something to build on going into the draft.

I admire your optimistic posts these days.. from doomsday filled garbage to churching up your boy no matter what. I find it ironic that you bash any rgiii supporters and then wear your Kirk goggles inspite of poor performance after poor performance.

I think everyone can agree that the TEAM is the problem not the qb.. you can sit there and say that rgiii wouldve completed less then cousins ~58% and presume hed be sacked all night just as I can say he wouldve made the easy throws captain Kirk MISSED.. AND would've put his legs to use like Wilson did prologngin drives giving our D some rest and winning the game. Its fun to guess... I KNOW rgiii wouldn't have layed the egg Kirk did last Thursday. . And I also know that he wouldve hit a wide open Garcon vs Philadelphia to keep us in the game at the end..

Kirk didnt play well.. our D stomped the seahawks in the third and we couldnt getnout of our side of the field. Cousins did ok in the fourth- garbage time? Vs a lax/ worn out D? Three tds were called back for Harvin- lets not pretend this game was "close"- ok?

Now I have the luxury of being a supporter of BOTH qbs.. and I see things differently. I see a game where had it been Robert w the exact same performance, youd be frothing at the mouth in his bashing! Youd call him a bust and say Cousins this Cousins that.. FACT is Cousins is a good BACKUP. Robert is still the man who got us back to the playoffs IN SPITE of the poor team around him.

I understand your optimism as I share it.. I just cant stand the give Cousins a chance but Robert is a bum talk. Now that Robert is getting what Cousins had in ncaa (pro style pocket qb guidance) its not fair to either qb to write them off.

I predict a grossman roller coaster ride until Robert is healthy. We play dullass and he wins. Cousins suites up we probably lose.
this team isnt sb material, yet.

Open comp for qb next off-season?so be it. But the Wilson that the announcers were gushing over is exactly what Rgiii can do. Kirk can fire off target missiles all day- but thats only good enough to beat bottom of the league teams.

I hate to rant and jump all over- but come on man, give it a rest. Lets look at Cousins objectively until Robert is back and see what happens. The Rgiii wouldve lost worse is plum dumb stupid and childish as can be. Honestly the O was slow to start and made some nosie when it was too little too late EXACTLY like the woes of last year.
/rant off

I was actually pleasantly surprised that the Skins were able to keep from getting blown out in this game...I guess rooting for a team that's had a losing record for as many years as the Skins have had conditions a person to expect the loss, but be happy when the loss isn't a blowout...

If we had played with as much effort against the giants and eagles we would have won both games ...

the defense has got to learn how to play as a unit and the tackling has got to get better - that being said, the seahawks with Wilson are a very difficult offense to play against

cannot wait to see Gruden and our offense with Griffin .... Cousins is good but he lacks that added dimension ...

in a word ... encouraging

SkinsJock wrote:If we had played with as much effort against the giants and eagles we would have won both games ...

the defense has got to learn how to play as a unit and the tackling has got to get better - that being said, the seahawks with Wilson are a very difficult offense to play against

cannot wait to see Gruden and our offense with Griffin .... Cousins is good but he lacks that added dimension ...

in a word ... encouraging

I agree. Think the 11 days off really helped the team. Plus not wanting to get killed in the locker room again, hence Giants.