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kwm2354 wrote:3 INT's a game what are you basing your logic on...one game? If you knew anything at all you would refer back to last year and see that Ramsey threw 9 INTs in 11 games...somehow I dont think that averages out to 3 INTs a game.

I'm basing the 3 INTs on the two quarters he played this year. He didn't throw many INT last year because he was too busy taking sacks and getting delay of game penalties with his poor audible calling, not to mention him looking completely uncomfortable during the games he played in.

What logic are you guys using in saying Ramsey is a pro-bowl caliber QB? IMHO he is a Kyle Boller.

Brandon777 wrote:What logic are you guys using in saying Ramsey is a pro-bowl caliber QB? IMHO he is a Kyle Boller.

Wow. A Kyle Boller???? Most will definitely take offense at that. IMO, Hasselbeck can play better football than Boller.

Brandon777 wrote:

kwm2354 wrote:3 INT's a game what are you basing your logic on...one game? If you knew anything at all you would refer back to last year and see that Ramsey threw 9 INTs in 11 games...somehow I dont think that averages out to 3 INTs a game.

I'm basing the 3 INTs on the two quarters he played this year. He didn't throw many INT last year because he was too busy taking sacks and getting delay of game penalties with his poor audible calling, not to mention him looking completely uncomfortable during the games he played in.

What logic are you guys using in saying Ramsey is a pro-bowl caliber QB? IMHO he is a Kyle Boller.

Who said he was a pro-bowl caliber QB?

I think you need to step back and objectively look at the facts. Brunell isn't gettint it done. Naturally fans are going to use whatever info they have at their disposal to postulate how that can be fixed. Get over it.

cvillehog wrote:Who said he was a pro-bowl caliber QB?

Several people since I've been a member on this board have said Ramsey is pro-bowl material. A poster on this thread said he was going to be a top-five QB next year.

I think you need to step back and objectively look at the facts.

Ah, cvillehogs debates with the only comeback line he knows. It doesn't matter if your talking politics or football. Whatever one says, he'll simply type "look at the facts" or "you don't know the facts"

Brunell isn't gettint it done.

That is true. I won't argue with that. However, when a coach changes QBs during the season, it sends a message to the players that the season is done. In fact, I saw Parcells today saying the same thing when someone asked him if he would bench Testiverde.

Naturally fans are going to use whatever info they have at their disposal to postulate how that can be fixed. Get over it.

Me get over it? What do I need to get over? I'm sorry that I'm not a complete homer. I look at the Ramsey situation objectively. I'm sorry you don't like what I see. I could be wrong. I'm just typing my opinion.

You need to get over your boy Kerry losing.

I'm tired of all the people on here who object to any discussion of the QB situation. It's far more annoying than the discussion of the QB's themselves. Not one person on here has anything good to say about Brunell. So, why is it such heresy to discuss what we think Ramsey would do if he got the chance?

What's the reasoning behing objecting to talk about Ramsey? "Because Gibbs said so." Well, if we took that approach there would be nothing to talk about ever. Might as well take the site offline now, because we are just going to pledge blind faith in the diety that is Gibbs.

Give me a freaking break with that political BS, Brandon.

Tell me, oh master of objectivity, what exactly do you "see" when you look at the "facts" of the Ramsey situation?

Gibbs pulled jay shroder after he won the 3 out 4 games before putting in Doug Williams. He has switched qbs before why not now? its mind boggeling.

cvillehog wrote:I'm tired of all the people on here who object to any discussion of the QB situation. It's far more annoying than the discussion of the QB's themselves. Not one person on here has anything good to say about Brunell. So, why is it such heresy to discuss what we think Ramsey would do if he got the chance?

What's the reasoning behing objecting to talk about Ramsey? "Because Gibbs said so." Well, if we took that approach there would be nothing to talk about ever. Might as well take the site offline now, because we are just going to pledge blind faith in the diety that is Gibbs.

Give me a freaking break with that political BS, Brandon.

Tell me, oh master of objectivity, what exactly do you "see" when you look at the "facts" of the Ramsey situation?

I never said anyone shouldn't discuss their support for Ramsey or their disapointment at our QB position. This board is for expressing a variety of opinions and then discussing them. It looks to me that you are trying to twist my words. This thread is about wanting Ramsey start. I gave my opinion on Ramsey and why I don't think he'll start. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just stating my opinion. I didn't forge my opinion on Ramsey because of Gibbs. My very first thread on this board was in regards to Ramsey not being that great. If you want to know exactly what I "see", then go back a page and read my first post on this thread.

[/quote]I'm basing the 3 INTs on the two quarters he played this year. He didn't throw many INT last year because he was too busy taking sacks and getting delay of game penalties with his poor audible calling, not to mention him looking completely uncomfortable during the games he played in.

He was too busy getting sacked yet he still managed to throw for 2200 yards..no matter what you say he cant do any worse than Brunell has. If you do the math thats about 200 yards per game which is double what Brunell has.