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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:11 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Yes Ramsey did move us down field, but what good does that do when you just throw a pick to end the drive anyway. Thats not Joe Gibbs football. We just need a decent Quarterback that will not throw picks and we don't have that right now.
Did Brunell NOT do the same thing last Sunday? Brunell IS NOT playing Gibbs football either UNLESS Gibbs football entails overthrowing WR's, wasting timeouts, delaying the game, throwing INT's, and standing on the sidelines alone. If thats the case then he's our man.
People, we CANNOT hold that Giants game against Ramsey. He was in a 100% passing situation. The odds are against him. Put him in at the beggining of the game and I doubt he'd throw that many INT's because we'd have a good mix of run and pass.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:18 pm
by redskincity
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Yes Ramsey did move us down field, but what good does that do when you just throw a pick to end the drive anyway. Thats not Joe Gibbs football. We just need a decent Quarterback that will not throw picks and we don't have that right now.
Did Brunell NOT do the same thing last Sunday? Brunell IS NOT playing Gibbs football either UNLESS Gibbs football entails overthrowing WR's, wasting timeouts, delaying the game, throwing INT's, and standing on the sidelines alone. If thats the case then he's our man.
People, we CANNOT hold that Giants game against Ramsey. He was in a 100% passing situation. The odds are against him. Put him in at the beggining of the game and I doubt he'd throw that many INT's because we'd have a good mix of run and pass.
They would have 8 in the box against that arm either.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:24 pm
by 1niksder
Chris Luva Luva wrote:People, we CANNOT hold that Giants game against Ramsey. He was in a 100% passing situation. The odds are against him. Put him in at the beggining of the game and I doubt he'd throw that many INT's because we'd have a good mix of run and pass.
He did move the team up and down the field with the defense
knowing he would be throwing on every down.

How would he do if the defense had to also worry about running plays. What would thet do for the ground game
Said I'm not gonna bash Brunell

didn't say I was gonna stop hopeing for a change
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:29 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
1niksder wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:People, we CANNOT hold that Giants game against Ramsey. He was in a 100% passing situation. The odds are against him. Put him in at the beggining of the game and I doubt he'd throw that many INT's because we'd have a good mix of run and pass.
He did move the team up and down the field with the defense
knowing he would be throwing on every down.

How would he do if the defense had to also worry about running plays. What would thet do for the ground game
Said I'm not gonna bash Brunell

didn't say I was gonna stop hopeing for a change
Umm...thats exactly what I said.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:34 pm
by 1niksder
Chris Luva Luva wrote:Umm...thats exactly what I said.

Brilliant

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:35 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
My job is frying my brain, I feel super slow tonight.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:37 pm
by 1niksder
Champsturf wrote:I agree that Ramsey is the better QB. I will admit that Brunell WAS a very good QB, but his better years have gone and went. We need a change and I don't think Gibbs is going to make it.
How does 2-14 sound to all of you out there?
Gibbs NEVER said Brunell was the better QB he has always said Mark gives us the best chance to win.
Meaning until he can get the O-line up to par then he needs someone in ther that will rely on their feet and mental skills when the pocket breaksdown or the preasure comes and not someone who will rely only on arm strength. Mark was and IS a good QB just not for what we need done right now or when we fall behind. Ramsey is fully supporting Gibbs and his decision to continue to play Brunell because
1. He knows he'd get killed if he were the starter right now
2. He knows there are some things that he still needs to learn
Don't be fooled he aon't happy on the bench but he sees a benifit to being there.. Brunell has been rolling out and the pocket has been moving alot lately this maybe for Patrick's benifit. He has to learn to move in the pocket and seeing it happening during the game and how the recievers react can only help.
I think I'm more ready for Ramsey to take over this team than anyone here ...OK CLL & RC want it pretty bad too (we all felt he should have been the starter coming off the bye...I lost money on it

)but I think Gibbs has this move as part as is big piture but the O-line has to improve for him to make this move. I be ready to see it when JG is ready to show us
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:41 pm
by redskincity
Perhaps Gibbs want put Ramsey in because the line sucks.
Brunell is mobile.
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:59 pm
by 1niksder
redskincity wrote:Perhaps Gibbs want put Ramsey in because the line sucks.
Brunell is mobile.
It's the only thing that makes sense