Skinsfan55 wrote:So this guy got downgraded from "rapist" to "pervert"?
I don't get it, where's the victory?
Yes, I am disgusted by false rape allegations, and IMO anyone who fabricates rape charges should be prosecuted... but a senior having sex with a sophomore is still creepy. I mean, the tragedy in this story is not abuse of the legal system (none happened as far as I can tell, the abuse was the girl's who used her power in the situation to get Dixon in more trouble) the tragedy of this story is Dixon's own stupidity and lust that cost him a stellar college career.
His life is forever changed because he can't keep it in his pants.
Dayum skinsfan55, that actually made me wanna stand up and say Hallelujah . I cannt even find the words or make up the Bushism to express my agreement with you.....so I will say.....
Dayum women, Dayum that EVE and that apple....dayum them all to hell.
Wow I have got to add my two cents here. First of all, let me say as a woman I think that women cry rape too much. I think that alot of accusations come from other motivations, after consensaul relations.
That being said this isn't about actual rape. This is about statutory rape. Meaning they think a 15 year old girl is not old enough to make this decision. My beef here is that if 18 isn't old enough to drink, then obviously this guy isn't old enough to make decisions for himself either. How could he possibly be a high school student and be charged like this. A sophmore and a senior getting together is not out of the question. If the girl had been the senior in this situation would she have been charged. Absolutely not. This kid lost every possiblity he had of a career and a free college education because the legal system screwed him. I think this charge was bogus. And I think him being found guilty was horrible. Honestly at what age is it ok to have consenual sex, if you say 18 then there are a heck of alot of 15 to 17 year olds out there that are going to be charged. How many people now a days wait until they are 18 to makes this decision. I'm almost 30 and I know my generation saw nothing wrong with 15 year olds having sex. That was OMG I feel old more then 10 years ago! Times change so I assume it's only getting worse!
Whenever I start to get blue, I just breathe!
My favortie line from the Simpsons:
Flanders: "Looks like someone is having a pre-rapture party!"
Homer: "No Flanders, it's a meeting of gay witches for abortion , you wouldn't be interested!"
I have to agree NikiH. I don't see anything wrong with a senior hooking up with a sophmore. It happened to some people I knew when I was in highschool. And apparently it happens now. I also dont see anything wrong with drinking at the age of 18. I think if your old enough to go to Iraq and nearly get killed you should be able to buy a beer at a bar when you get back. Those are just my opinions.
The Law says differently. And therefore the Law is screwing some very smart kids out of a bright future. I hope they change this law now. As long as it is consensual It shouldn't ever be called rape. It did go all the way to the State Supreme Court who decided this kid has been screwed. I guess we'll have to wait and see what will happen to this law next.
This law screwed this guy out of a year of his life. Gosh, I hope she was worth it.
Redskins Rule wrote:I have to agree NikiH. I don't see anything wrong with a senior hooking up with a sophmore. It happened to some people I knew when I was in highschool. And apparently it happens now. I also dont see anything wrong with drinking at the age of 18. I think if your old enough to go to Iraq and nearly get killed you should be able to buy a beer at a bar when you get back. Those are just my opinions.
The Law says differently. And therefore the Law is screwing some very smart kids out of a bright future. I hope they change this law now. As long as it is consensual It shouldn't ever be called rape. It did go all the way to the State Supreme Court who decided this kid has been screwed. I guess we'll have to wait and see what will happen to this law next.
This law screwed this guy out of a year of his life. Gosh, I hope she was worth it.
The law may have screwed this guy, but that's not for us to decide. We all know the law, and we're aware when we're breaking it. When I was 18, I was VERY aware of the statutory rape laws. Dixon messed up, and deserved to be punished, however 10 years is a little rough. The law is the law. There shouldn't be an exception for this guy just because he had a bright future, he's black, or he's a great athlete. That would be prejudice.
I am not calling for an exception to the law. I think the law should be adapted to fit current cultural exceptance. That law was put into place so that young women would not be taken advantage of. A high school student having sex with a high school student is not statutory rape. Had the man been a teacher, a janitor, a maintence worker, ok. But in social standings he is her equal. I do not see how a jury wouldn't have seen that. I feel for this guy. And any other person, regardless or talent, future or color in this situation.
Whenever I start to get blue, I just breathe!
My favortie line from the Simpsons:
Flanders: "Looks like someone is having a pre-rapture party!"
Homer: "No Flanders, it's a meeting of gay witches for abortion , you wouldn't be interested!"
If that is the case then Justice,,,,,,,then every person male or female that violates that law thould be punished. And the D.A. should and all parents should go after offenders with the same zealous that these people showed.
Hey Gambit, please don't tell anyone on this board about this (because I'll lose any credibility I may have), but I absolutely agree with you 100% here.
As draconian as some laws might be, they must be applied equally across the board.
Fran Farren "Justice Hog"
Newark, DE
“God didn't give us a spirit that is timid but one that is powerful, loving and controlled.” 2 Timothy 1:7
curveball wrote:Under that rationale (social equals) wouldn't two elemetary students engaging in sexual relations also be deemed "acceptable"?
A line must be drawn somewhere in the "Law".
exactly ...morals are morals, they shouldn't be changed to accomadate a soceity that is clearly sliding down hill. plus, just think if you were this girls father...he sends his daughter to the one place that he should feel safe about and she ends up having sex with an adult (18+) on a desk. i mean c'mon, she's only 15! think if this was your daughter or sister...i'd want some punishment for this guy too. i definitely think 10 years is way extreme but he did deserve something.
"People that think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us who do."
curveball wrote:Under that rationale (social equals) wouldn't two elemetary students engaging in sexual relations also be deemed "acceptable"?
A line must be drawn somewhere in the "Law".
exactly ...morals are morals, they shouldn't be changed to accomadate a soceity that is clearly sliding down hill. plus, just think if you were this girls father...he sends his daughter to the one place that he should feel safe about and she ends up having sex with an adult (18+) on a desk. i mean c'mon, she's only 15! think if this was your daughter or sister...i'd want some punishment for this guy too. i definitely think 10 years is way extreme but he did deserve something.
Surfskin that was dumb........you called the young man and adult. I would be willing to bet my life that if you go to any high school in america. That is the standard. OLDER GUYS AND YOUNGER GIRLS. I as a father would be dissappointed that she gave it up to a guy in a class room on a desk. But I as a father plan on telling MY daughter to not date any guys younger then her, because we as men are kinda immature.
And yes i have 2 sisters and 1 daughter, but i am not naive to what is going on out there in the world. She knew what she was doing. Dude did not use the Jedi mind trick on her or anything. Of course any father or brother would be mad at the situation, but deep down inside that makes us hipocrits...WHY CAUSE WE DID IT TO SOMEONE ELSE DAUGHTER OR SISTER. .....LOL......Just the truth man.
sorry man, i just don't think it's cool for 15 year olds to have sex. you'll never convince me that it's ok. and when you turn 18 you are VERY aware of what is considered statutory rape. so i don't think just because it happens all the time makes it right. would you feel different if this guy was 19 year old senior and the girl was 14 year old freshmen? like curveball said, you gotta draw the line somewhere.
"People that think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us who do."
surferskin wrote:sorry man, i just don't think it's cool for 15 year olds to have sex. you'll never convince me that it's ok. and when you turn 18 you are VERY aware of what is considered statutory rape. so i don't think just because it happens all the time makes it right. would you feel different if this guy was 19 year old senior and the girl was 14 year old freshmen? like curveball said, you gotta draw the line somewhere.
And regardless of whether or not you are okay with your 15 year old daughter having sex with older guys (I'm assuming that nearly all parents would at least want their kids doing so responsibly), there is still a problem when a parent who doesn't want his 15 year old daughter making that kind of decision for herself can't get protection from the law. Despite alcohol laws, people are considered to be adults in this country precisely when they turn 18 (which is why they are then given a voice in government). I agree that the prosecution was unfairly applied, but I don't see how you can disagree with the law just because "that's just the way it is."
Whether or not he wanted it, it was his responsibility not to do this with the girl--even if it was consensual. (And again, I agree that it was unfairly applied, but there seems to be an argument against the law itself going on. . .)
surferskin wrote:sorry man, i just don't think it's cool for 15 year olds to have sex. you'll never convince me that it's ok. and when you turn 18 you are VERY aware of what is considered statutory rape. so i don't think just because it happens all the time makes it right. would you feel different if this guy was 19 year old senior and the girl was 14 year old freshmen? like curveball said, you gotta draw the line somewhere.
And regardless of whether or not you are okay with your 15 year old daughter having sex with older guys (I'm assuming that nearly all parents would at least want their kids doing so responsibly), there is still a problem when a parent who doesn't want his 15 year old daughter making that kind of decision for herself can't get protection from the law. Despite alcohol laws, people are considered to be adults in this country precisely when they turn 18 (which is why they are then given a voice in government). I agree that the prosecution was unfairly applied, but I don't see how you can disagree with the law just because "that's just the way it is."
Whether or not he wanted it, it was his responsibility not to do this with the girl--even if it was consensual. (And again, I agree that it was unfairly applied, but there seems to be an argument against the law itself going on. . .)
So since we all agree that if it is the LAW then why is it not enforced. We all know there are tons of teens out here having sex. BUT the only time it gets enforced seems to be when it is a male of color that usually has a good future ahead of him and a white female. ITS DA MAN I SAY DA MAN....LOL
But seriously just to give you an example my wife writes song lyrics for a set of 16 year old twins.....and they have been to spring break the last two year in Daytona Beach FL, they are both on the pill and openly talk to people about having sex and about there friends that have sex.......I dont see people running around to prosecute the guys they slept with or sleep with.
We're not talking about 19 year olds and 14 year olds. We are talking about a senior and a sophmore. We're not talking about a college kid coming to highschool to get lucky. We're talking about a senior getting lucky with a sophmore. We're not talking about elemtary students doint this act. That is disgusting. We are talking about highschool students doing this act. A senior and a sophmore liked each other and went to a private place to have sex. What is wrong in morals of a senior and a sophmore having sex?
that's because neither of them have cried rape...it was shoved in a judge's face and he was forced to act...the article also said that georgia was especially strict on statuatory rape charges.
"People that think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us who do."
Redskins Rule wrote:We're not talking about 19 year olds and 14 year olds. We are talking about a senior and a sophmore. We're not talking about a college kid coming to highschool to get lucky. We're talking about a senior getting lucky with a sophmore. We're not talking about elemtary students doint this act. That is disgusting. We are talking about highschool students doing this act. A senior and a sophmore liked each other and went to a private place to have sex. What is wrong in morals of a senior and a sophmore having sex?
because there has to be a line drawn SOMEWHERE...there is always going to be somebody saying that it's ok, even when it's not. where would you draw the line on what is acceptable?
"People that think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us who do."
surferskin wrote:that's because neither of them have cried rape...it was shoved in a judge's face and he was forced to act...the article also said that georgia was especially strict on statuatory rape charges.
Well the girl screamed rape, but later recanted, what is happening to her... I have not heard a thing about that.
surferskin wrote:that's because neither of them have cried rape...it was shoved in a judge's face and he was forced to act...the article also said that georgia was especially strict on statuatory rape charges.
Well the girl screamed rape, but later recanted, what is happening to her... I have not heard a thing about that.
actually, i never even heard about either of them until you posted this article...so i've got no clue what's happening to her. but if i had to guess i would say not much...remember we are talking about a little girl here...she's not even old enough to drive.
"People that think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us who do."
surferskin wrote:that's because neither of them have cried rape...it was shoved in a judge's face and he was forced to act...the article also said that georgia was especially strict on statuatory rape charges.
Well the girl screamed rape, but later recanted, what is happening to her... I have not heard a thing about that.
actually, i never even heard about either of them until you posted this article...so i've got no clue what's happening to her. but if i had to guess i would say not much...remember we are talking about a little girl here...she's not even old enough to drive.
Ummmm so you consider 15 year with 3 months before her 16 birthday little in the year of 2003. I dont know where you have been , but just to give you another exampler my sister just turned 16 she stands 6'1" and 160lbs . I guess you have not taken alook around and look at how big these teenagers have become, or how fast in the pants our youth has come.....Every kid in my brother and sisters high school have there own phones and most of them have either there own computers at home or there own laptops......So dont give me that little girl crap....
...when i said little girl of course i didn't mean how big she was...little girl as in young or completely dependent on her parents...c'mon, you had to be joking...and DANG, you sister is bigger than you??
"People that think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us who do."
surferskin wrote:ROTFALMAO ...when i said little girl of course i didn't mean how big she was...little girl as in young or completely dependent on her parents...c'mon, you had to be joking...and DANG, you sister is bigger than you??
No i was serious.....thats just the way the world is going today. Its all the hormones in the milk and chicken and junk
Hey Surferskin, My question is what is wrong with a senior and a sophmore having sex? And I don't believe I got an answer to it other then draw the line somewhere. But I'll go ahead and answer your question as to where I would draw the line.
I would draw the line that highschool students have sex. Its obvious. How can you not see it? Don't you remember highschool? It happens all the time. Therefore I don't think it is against morals. If everyone approves it how can it be against morals? My question to you and to everyone else again is:
What is wrong in morals of a senior and a sophmore having sex?
Redskins Rule wrote:Hey Surferskin, My question is what is wrong with a senior and a sophmore having sex? And I don't believe I got an answer to it other then draw the line somewhere. But I'll go ahead and answer your question as to where I would draw the line.
I would draw the line that highschool students have sex. Its obvious. How can you not see it? Don't you remember highschool? It happens all the time. Therefore I don't think it is against morals. If everyone approves it how can it be against morals? My question to you and to everyone else again is:
What is wrong in morals of a senior and a sophmore having sex?
the reason it's wrong is because the guy was legally an adult and the girl was only 15. i don't think grade has anything to do with. and as i said before...what if it was 19 year old senior and 14 year old freshmen...or heck 13 year old freshmen. i was 13 my first month of highschool. would that be accepable just because they were in the same highshool??? and just because it happens a lot doesn't me people agree with it...a TON of highshools drink and do drugs but i don't think anyone is ready to say it's ok or to make it legal.
"People that think they know it all are especially annoying to those of us who do."
I think your right that the line needs to be drawn some where but it needs to be a little more than a black and white line (this is not refering to the color of there skin for those of us who are racially sensative )....
I mean, back when i was in high-school, I turned 18, 5 months before I graduated... and to say after my 18th birthday that I was a responsible enough adult to decide that I was an adult and 15 year olds where children, well that was just absurd.... I was still, as most 18 year olds still going to high school are... a kid myself... how can you call an 18 year old going to high school an adult when he's till being treated as a kid... and also has never truely experienced life as an adult in the "real world"??
I think the line needs to be drawn something to the effect of if your 18 and out of high-school then your an adult or over the age of 18 (ex. 19), you can't turn on a switch in a childs head that says....oh, now your an adult... it doesn't work like that.....you can only become an adult through experiences.... those "adult experiences" you can't get in high-school....
Tough line to call. . .so let's use BringthePain's system. I'm a high school senior who has sex with a 13-year old freshman, and a week later I turn 19. Basically, we're talking a 6 year difference but I can still get away with it apparently.
Furthermore, let's say the girl consented and stands behind that but her parents are furious--does our legal system just tell the parents "sorry"?
...morals are morals, they shouldn't be changed to accomadate a soceity that is clearly sliding down hill. plus, just think if you were this girls father...he sends his daughter to the one place that he should feel safe about and she ends up having sex with an adult (18+) on a desk. i mean c'mon, she's only 15! think if this was your daughter or sister...i'd want some punishment for this guy too. i definitely think 10 years is way extreme but he did deserve something.
...when i said little girl of course i didn't mean how big she was...little girl as in young or completely dependent on her parents...c'mon, you had to be joking...and DANG, you sister is bigger than you??
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