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Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:40 am
by markshark84
DEHog wrote:So we are to believe that the drinking has gone on during his entire tenure here? Not once did we hear about it, so the Skins enabled his drinking? I’m quite sure Scot had a moral clause in his contract about drinking; you’re not going to give millions to a guy with a known drinking problem without protecting your business. If that’s the case what changed this time….sorry but I struggle to believe this, the Skins are doing everything possible to resign Cousins, hard for me to not believe Scot is a casualty of that!
No I’m the type of person that believes when someone needs help you help them! You don’t use them and then wait until it’s convenient to use it as an excuse. At the first sign his drinking was a problem they should have put him in rehab, the second time you let him go. Easy to talk about it now, but where was the talk while it was happening, the Skins PR machine is average at best, but they kept this under wraps the whole time...when was this public knowledge?
DaSkinz Baby wrote:
Pretty much yes. It was public knowledge that Scott never stopped drinking and he admitted to that in The ESPN Magazine article. With respect to to offering help, people have to want help to get help, Scott feels as though he has a handle on it. Now did the public know he was at the games drunk? I doubt it but I know I pretty much am drunk at the game(s) All I know is that alcohol seems to flow rampant at Redskins Park and even a player has come out and said that Scott and Bruce are drunk there all the time, they are functioning alcoholics. The Redskins PR department sucks and let's be honest the handwriting was on the wall, Scott wasn't allowed to speak to the media, then wasn't at the combine. Meanwhile because the reporters are seeing things to do the old bait and switch what does Bruce Allen do, he speaks to the media (something he doesn't do nor does his like to do) speaking about how Kirk Cousins will sign a long term deal, but yet Kirk has bypassed Allen and went to Snyder asking for a trade. Then Bruce extends Jay Gruden and puts out a rumor about the Redskins signing Tony Romo. Sorry this is nothing but dysfunction. Bruce Allen is living off his fathers' merits and Snyder is dumb enough to fall for it hook line and sinker. We are again a laughing stock and Scott isn't the problem. Heckle and Jeckle are.
Had to take out DSB's first response due to restrictions on quoting.
But I am in 100% agreement with DSB.
Don't be naïve here DEHog --- you weren't going to hear about the drinking problem. Snyder is diabolical. Therefore the only way you will hear about it is if he can use it to his advantage..... and now is the time he can. It has become clear that SM wanted Cousins signed LAST YEAR --- to a deal that would have been considered VERY VERY good for the skins. And the skins are NOT doing everything they can to resign Cousins. Not even close.
There are TONS of people that are functioning alcoholics that work in high stress jobs. It's business. The only way a boss will care is if it isn't good for business. Please. Do you think Dan Snyder ---- one of the most egotistical, maniacal, unethical dudes out there ---- actually cares about Scot or anyone else for that matter????? Come on now. We all know better than that. You're talking about a dude that
literally STOLE minority owners from other redskins bidders in a move similar to extortion in order to submit the successful bid to acquire the team.
But DSB ---- totally agree. Everything said and done by dumb and dumber 2.0 is just one big PR move. Snyder (the butthurt RGIII fanboy) and his b!tch boy sidekick never liked Cousins nor wanted to give him the deal he EARNED. Everything they said was an effort to increase his trade value. The reason they exclusive franchised him wasn't because they wanted him ---- it was to PREVENT HIM FROM DISCUSSING A ONE-YEAR WAIT WITH SF OR ANY OTHER TEAM. After contract discussions, Cousins saw this and responded by requesting a trade and reporting it to the media. If he is smart (as it is clear that he is), he will continue to use the media as a tool. Meanwhile dumb and dumber 2.0 have proven they are just that by catastrophically failing to correctly manage this circus.
Meanwhile, I am beginning to believe with confidence that Scot hasn't fully relapsed to the point he needed to be fired. If he actually had relapsed, they wouldn't have fired him at this point. That is a fact. I believe 100% that Scot and D&D 2.0 had disagreement on Cousins and FAs, which lead to his firing. And as it has been with LITERALLY EVERY OTHER DECENT FOOTBALL MIND THAT HAS BEEN FIRED BY SNYDER (Schott, Shanahan, and now Scot) --- the ousted party will be once again be proven right.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:48 am
by DEHog
markshark84 wrote:DEHog wrote:So we are to believe that the drinking has gone on during his entire tenure here? Not once did we hear about it, so the Skins enabled his drinking? I’m quite sure Scot had a moral clause in his contract about drinking; you’re not going to give millions to a guy with a known drinking problem without protecting your business. If that’s the case what changed this time….sorry but I struggle to believe this, the Skins are doing everything possible to resign Cousins, hard for me to not believe Scot is a casualty of that!
No I’m the type of person that believes when someone needs help you help them! You don’t use them and then wait until it’s convenient to use it as an excuse. At the first sign his drinking was a problem they should have put him in rehab, the second time you let him go. Easy to talk about it now, but where was the talk while it was happening, the Skins PR machine is average at best, but they kept this under wraps the whole time...when was this public knowledge?
DaSkinz Baby wrote:
Pretty much yes. It was public knowledge that Scott never stopped drinking and he admitted to that in The ESPN Magazine article. With respect to to offering help, people have to want help to get help, Scott feels as though he has a handle on it. Now did the public know he was at the games drunk? I doubt it but I know I pretty much am drunk at the game(s) All I know is that alcohol seems to flow rampant at Redskins Park and even a player has come out and said that Scott and Bruce are drunk there all the time, they are functioning alcoholics. The Redskins PR department sucks and let's be honest the handwriting was on the wall, Scott wasn't allowed to speak to the media, then wasn't at the combine. Meanwhile because the reporters are seeing things to do the old bait and switch what does Bruce Allen do, he speaks to the media (something he doesn't do nor does his like to do) speaking about how Kirk Cousins will sign a long term deal, but yet Kirk has bypassed Allen and went to Snyder asking for a trade. Then Bruce extends Jay Gruden and puts out a rumor about the Redskins signing Tony Romo. Sorry this is nothing but dysfunction. Bruce Allen is living off his fathers' merits and Snyder is dumb enough to fall for it hook line and sinker. We are again a laughing stock and Scott isn't the problem. Heckle and Jeckle are.
Had to take out DSB's first response due to restrictions on quoting.
But I am in 100% agreement with DSB.
Don't be naïve here DEHog --- you weren't going to hear about the drinking problem. Snyder is diabolical. Therefore the only way you will hear about it is if he can use it to his advantage..... and now is the time he can. It has become clear that SM wanted Cousins signed LAST YEAR --- to a deal that would have been considered VERY VERY good for the skins. And the skins are NOT doing everything they can to resign Cousins. Not even close.
There are TONS of people that are functioning alcoholics that work in high stress jobs. It's business. The only way a boss will care is if it isn't good for business. Please. Do you think Dan Snyder ---- one of the most egotistical, maniacal, unethical dudes out there ---- actually cares about Scot or anyone else for that matter????? Come on now. We all know better than that. You're talking about a dude that
literally STOLE minority owners from other redskins bidders in a move similar to extortion in order to submit the successful bid to acquire the team.
But DSB ---- totally agree. Everything said and done by dumb and dumber 2.0 is just one big PR move. Snyder (the butthurt RGIII fanboy) and his b!tch boy sidekick never liked Cousins nor wanted to give him the deal he EARNED. Everything they said was an effort to increase his trade value. The reason they exclusive franchised him wasn't because they wanted him ---- it was to PREVENT HIM FROM DISCUSSING A ONE-YEAR WAIT WITH SF OR ANY OTHER TEAM. After contract discussions, Cousins saw this and responded by requesting a trade and reporting it to the media. If he is smart (as it is clear that he is), he will continue to use the media as a tool. Meanwhile dumb and dumber 2.0 have proven they are just that by catastrophically failing to correctly manage this circus.
Meanwhile, I am beginning to believe with confidence that Scot hasn't fully relapsed to the point he needed to be fired. If he actually had relapsed, they wouldn't have fired him at this point. That is a fact. I believe 100% that Scot and D&D 2.0 had disagreement on Cousins and FAs, which lead to his firing. And as it has been with LITERALLY EVERY OTHER DECENT FOOTBALL MIND THAT HAS BEEN FIRED BY SNYDER (Schott, Shanahan, and now Scot) --- the ousted party will be once again be proven right.
I'm not naive...simply stating if that was the case the Skins are just as much to blame for enabling him...What you allow, you condone!
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:51 am
by DaSkinz Baby
Everything I am hearing is simply this, Scot held his ground with Bruce and Bruce didn't like it. Bruce drinks and now all of the leaks are supposedly now being linked to Scot sleeping with that ESPN reporter. We all know about the dysfunctional management team here and Snyders burning desire to have spineless yes men to do his bidding. Personally I would and do trust a drunk SM over Bruce and Danny any day of the week. The current Redskins Management are so stupid they could fall into a bucket of boobs and come out sucking their own thumb. This is ridiculous on so many levels. Now I truly understand why Daniel Snyder is NEVER SEEN IN PUBLIC because he knows some real fan would beat the brakes off his ass.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:00 am
by markshark84
DEHog wrote:
I'm not naive...simply stating if that was the case the Skins are just as much to blame for enabling him...What you allow, you condone!
Yeah, I'm saying it's naïve to think that's the case. I doubt Scot relapsed or that relapse was the reason he was fired ---- because if he did, they would have given him more than 16 days to get his act back together. No company would fire someone if they had a drinking problem, after stating that they would "give them the time they need", 16 days later. Nor would they have used some dumb@ss excuse about their grandmother. Total bushleague. Sorry, that just doesn't happen.
This was a football philosophy conflict and dumb and dumber 2.0 choose to take the low road and, similarly to how they always do, use the media to "leak unconfirmed stories" about his drinking. This might as well be fact. This method was taken from page 1 of the Dan Snyder guide to firing non-yes men handbook. Just ask Turner, Schott, Zorn, Shanahan, and now Scot. Snyder trashed all those guys on their way out the door. This is no different.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:02 am
by riggofan
The guy has been fired from two teams already for alcohol issues. They certainly didn't "make up the alcoholism".
Using his drinking as an excuse for the firing is a different matter. I'm not entirely sure I'm buying it. It seems just as likely to me that this was an ego/personality thing between him and Bruce Allen.
I actually remember when Scot was hired, it was brought up even that he was still drinking "casually". He's not a guy who ever went on the wagon. People were debating on here whether that was a good idea or even possible.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:04 am
by DEHog
DaSkinz Baby wrote:Everything I am hearing is simply this, Scot held his ground with Bruce and Bruce didn't like it. Bruce drinks and now all of the leaks are supposedly now being linked to Scot sleeping with that ESPN reporter. We all know about the dysfunctional management team here and Snyders burning desire to have spineless yes men to do his bidding. Personally I would and do trust a drunk SM over Bruce and Danny any day of the week. The current Redskins Management are so stupid they could fall into a bucket of boobs and come out sucking their own thumb. This is ridiculous on so many levels. Now I truly understand why Daniel Snyder is NEVER SEEN IN PUBLIC because he knows some real fan would beat the brakes off his ass.
Who knows what the real story is?? If Scot has been drinking the whole time, how sad is it that the Skins allowed it and kept it in their hip pocket to use when needed… but that’s not news with this owner!! I won’t go so far as to say a “drunk” Scot is better than…His future as a person is more important than football.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:08 am
by riggofan
I will say this. As irritated as I am with how this has all gone down, its still possible that McCloughan is getting way too much credit for the past two years. I liked him, and I liked the philosophy he brought to the team. But there are a lot of people out there acting like he's been the infallible St. Scot which is not at all true.
The team is either going to show that they can continue to function well and improve this year without Scot - or they're going to prove all of the naysayers right. Either way, it seems like a ham handed, and bone-headed move to put themselves in this position and under this pressure. I don't get the point.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:36 am
by Irn-Bru
riggofan wrote:I will say this. As irritated as I am with how this has all gone down, its still possible that McCloughan is getting way too much credit for the past two years. I liked him, and I liked the philosophy he brought to the team. But there are a lot of people out there acting like he's been the infallible St. Scot which is not at all true.
You may be conflating two opinions: (a) the idea that having a competent GM in place with the keys to power is all-important, and therefore Scot McCloughan was absolutely essential to the team's functioning, and (b) the idea that McCloughan was so good he did nothing wrong.
(A) can seem a lot like (b) when McCloughan gets kicked to the curb and fans, myself included, are ready to say it's over for 2017 and the foreseeable future. But I don't say that because I thought Scot was perfect. I say it because this team just cut off its head. Worse, we discovered that while they claimed Scot had the keys to power, in reality ownership put themselves at odds with him, with potentially devastating consequences.
Snyder and Allen are not a functioning head for the organization's operations. Without a competent GM vested with full powers, this team is stuck in the basement. It's a necessary condition for success, which is why I'm so absolute about it, even if Scot himself wasn't perfect (though I would argue he was actually very good at his job even if not perfect).
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:03 pm
by riggofan
Irn-Bru wrote:riggofan wrote:I will say this. As irritated as I am with how this has all gone down, its still possible that McCloughan is getting way too much credit for the past two years. I liked him, and I liked the philosophy he brought to the team. But there are a lot of people out there acting like he's been the infallible St. Scot which is not at all true.
You may be conflating two opinions: (a) the idea that having a competent GM in place with the keys to power is all-important, and therefore Scot McCloughan was absolutely essential to the team's functioning, and (b) the idea that McCloughan was so good he did nothing wrong.
(A) can seem a lot like (b) when McCloughan gets kicked to the curb and fans, myself included, are ready to say it's over for 2017 and the foreseeable future. But I don't say that because I thought Scot was perfect. I say it because this team just cut off its head.
I gotcha man. And I definitely agree about the need for a competent (and empowered) GM. I still personally believe though that the team success, especially in 2015, had more to do with Gruden/Cousins than some magic McCloughan whipped up in two or three months.
Don't mis-read that to me that I'm dismissing his value. I get it.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:06 pm
by DEHog
riggofan wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:riggofan wrote:I will say this. As irritated as I am with how this has all gone down, its still possible that McCloughan is getting way too much credit for the past two years. I liked him, and I liked the philosophy he brought to the team. But there are a lot of people out there acting like he's been the infallible St. Scot which is not at all true.
You may be conflating two opinions: (a) the idea that having a competent GM in place with the keys to power is all-important, and therefore Scot McCloughan was absolutely essential to the team's functioning, and (b) the idea that McCloughan was so good he did nothing wrong.
(A) can seem a lot like (b) when McCloughan gets kicked to the curb and fans, myself included, are ready to say it's over for 2017 and the foreseeable future. But I don't say that because I thought Scot was perfect. I say it because this team just cut off its head.
I gotcha man. And I definitely agree about the need for a competent (and empowered) GM. I still personally believe though that the team success, especially in 2015, had more to do with Gruden/Cousins than some magic McCloughan whipped up in two or three months.
Don't mis-read that to me that I'm dismissing his value. I get it.
Maybe...but does Cousins start the season with McCloughan not there?
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:10 pm
by EA7649
Farewell Scot, sorry the organization did you wrong. I thought their list was accurate and it is too soon to judge Doctson. There are more players they didn't cover, but generally speaking was good.
http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washingto ... omotion-gm
Scot McCloughan only served as the Redskins GM for 18 months, but in that time, the roster changed significantly. Some moves were great, others, not so much.
Great
Jamison Crowder - Arguably the best move of the McCloughan era, Crowder was a 4th round draft pick in 2015. In two seasons with the Redskins, the slot star has totaled more than 1,400 receiving yards and given Washington their best punt returner since Brian Mitchell was returning kicks. With DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garçon gone, the 2017 Redskins offense may run through the former Duke star.
Vernon Davis - An aging former star that many in the NFL thought was past his prime, Davis came in and played well for Washington in 2016. Davis had 44 catches for nearly 600 yards to go with two touchdowns in 2016. More importantly for Washington, Davis proved a strong run blocker and a highly capable complement to Jordan Reed when they were on the field together, or a high-level backup when Reed missed games.
Brandon Scherff - McCloughan's first draft pick with the Redskins, Scherff has developed into a Pro Bowl guard in just his second NFL season. The tough part for Scherff, even as a great player, the ceiling for a guard is somewhat limited, and some fans will always wonder if Leonard Williams might have been the better fit in Washington at the 5th pick in the 2015 Draft.
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Good
Robert Kelley - An undrafted free agent out of Tulane, Kelley proved highly capable of taking the RB1 role for the Redskins in the second half of the 2016 season.
Mason Foster - Not all of McCloughan's best work came in the draft. Signing Foster gave some stability to the middle linebacker position, and Foster led the team in tackles in 2016.
Will Blackmon - Similar to Foster, Blackmon came in and immediately helped the Redskins. With a professional attitude and strong locker room presence, Blackmon made plays at cornerback in 2015. Switched to safety in 2016, Blackmon's play was a work in progress, but he will help younger players in 2017 and beyond.
Josh Norman - The biggest free agent signing of the McCloughan era, Norman played well in his first season with the 'Skins. Plagued by penalties and an inability to hang on to interceptions, Norman could make a bigger impact in 2017.
Su'a Cravens - No doubt a playmaker as a rookie, Cravens arguably saved the Redskins season with a win-sealing interception against the Giants in Week 3 of the 2016 season. If his move to safety in 2017 pans out, it will be a huge swing for the Redskins.
Preston Smith - Showed great promise as a rookie, but his stats slid backwards in his second season. Talented and with strong physical gifts, fans hope for a return to his rookie ways in his third year.
Ricky Jean François - A veteran with heart and ability, François will likely see the field more with the dismissal of former defensive coordinator Joe Barry.
Miss
Matt Jones - Going into just his third season with the 'Skins, Jones still has time to reverse course. But in two seasons with the Redskins, Jones has lost the starting RB job to Kelley and proceeded to be inactive for the bulk of the second half of the 2016 season. Plagued by fumble problems, Jones has all the physical tools to suceed, just needs to prove it.
David Bruton - A career special teamer for seven years in Denver, the Redskins decided Bruton could be their starting safety in 2016. He couldn't. This was a big miss, and Bruton did not finish the season with the team after a concussion sent him to the IR in October.
Stepehen Paea - Signed by the Redskins in 2015, Paea never showed the 6 sack, disruptive performance he delivered in Chicago in 2014. The 'Skins cut Paea in training camp in 2016.
Kendall Reyes - Another defensive line signing, Reyes was terrible in his brief tenure with Washington. He played just two games with the 'Skins in 2016 before he was released.
Josh Doctson - Far too early to judge his career, but his rookie season was a miss. An Achilles injury limited Doctson to just two games in 2016. Washington will need much more from their 2016 first-round pick this season after the loss of Jackson and Garçon.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:43 pm
by riggofan
DEHog wrote:Maybe...but does Cousins start the season with McCloughan not there?
Don't know. I'm sure Gruden would have been jumping up and down trying to make it happen either way. I'm sure it didn't hurt having McCloughan back him up on it.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:13 pm
by SkinsJock
The facts will hopefully come out ... Scot was certainly not perfect, actually he did not have all that much time, but ... he did have a little bit of knowledge about what to do and he did help the franchise a little - these 2 bozos are actually harmful
Nothing changes the fact that this franchise is now back with Snyder making the decisions
I used to be a Dan Snyder fan and loved that a fan could buy his own football team - he absolutely killed that feeling over time
riggofan thinks that there's a chance that things will be different this time around or that Scot did not do as well as some have implied - like the draft, it will take time to see whether Scot's 18 months were any good or not but I guarantee that this franchise is going nowhere under Dan Snyder's management - NO WAY JOSE
there's no point in analyzing who is added to the roster or brought into coach or what they might become
this guy has no clue who to hire for a coach or who might become a future HOF player - NONE
so when I see a post about a player or a coach, I'll just add - there's no point in discussing or analyzing anything under these 2 bozos
this is a freaking disaster
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:49 pm
by markshark84
riggofan wrote:I will say this. As irritated as I am with how this has all gone down, its still possible that McCloughan is getting way too much credit for the past two years. I liked him, and I liked the philosophy he brought to the team. But there are a lot of people out there acting like he's been the infallible St. Scot which is not at all true.
The team is either going to show that they can continue to function well and improve this year without Scot - or they're going to prove all of the naysayers right. Either way, it seems like a ham handed, and bone-headed move to put themselves in this position and under this pressure. I don't get the point.
It is bigger than just Scot. To me, Scot was more of an "idea" than anything. Almost a test case. Scot was the first
REAL GM this franchise has had since Snyder stole the team. He was the first GM that had a real background, experience in building teams ---- and within about 1 month of coming on, his "vision" was clear and the moves he was making showed a true path or vision for what he wanted in this team. It was the first time in my adult life that I saw the redskins with a clear course and actions to back it up.
Some of Scot's picks/signings didn't work out. But there were reasons for them. The biggest miss IMHO was Carrier (of whatever the CB from SF's name is). Other than that the "misses" were mostly on lower-end cost players with the potential for upside -- that didn't pan out. Some did, like Davis. Regardless, you knew certain things were being done by someone that knew what they were doing. It becomes very clear when they are not.
Fast forward to now ---- we have seen 2 FA signings and both were for WAY WAY WAY over market price. Today, Dumb & Dumber 2.0 just gave a reserve 4-3 DT with 3 career sacks and 44 tackles over 4 years from one of the worst DEFs in the NFL a $25M contract.
Snyder is back at it --- overpaying, no vision, mass dysfunction, surrounding himself with enablers, etc. We have just entered into our next 20 year losing cycle.
I can tell you this. If something drastic doesn't change, I'm out.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:53 pm
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:riggofan thinks that there's a chance that things will be different this time around
I've never said anything like that.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:10 pm
by hanburgerheel
Daniel Snyder is the worst owner in professional sports. And, Bruce Allen is his enabler. The team and franchise are doomed to failure with those two. And, without Snyder, it will not be called the Redskins anymore. So, watch old You Tube videos of 1982, 88 and 92.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:40 pm
by SkinsJock
I'm going to 'enjoy' watching these 2 bozos spin this (in their estimation) to their benefit and watch the reality play out this summer
I'm sorry, but this franchise is going nowhere until Dan Snyder relinquishes control to guys that know what they're doing
until that time, it's fair to point out the failings of these bozos, they deserve it after what they've done
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:52 am
by riggofan
So now that the dust has settled on this a bit, I've noticed that sources outside of the Redskins camp have reported there may be something to the drinking issue. Who knows for sure right now, the truth will come out eventually. Consider these two narratives that are out there though:
1. Following a second consecutive winning season, Dan Snyder allowed Bruce Allen to basically run McCloughan out of town for no good reason. Never mind that the fan base largely supported and embraced McCloughan. Allen was driven by personal jealousy or professional ineptitude and wanted to see McCloughan gone. In an especially terrible PR move, giving no notice to anybody to lessen the impact, the Redskins showed up at the combine without their draft guru/GM. Allen was apparently so jealous of the credit and attention McCloughan had been receiving, he pushed Scot out in the most unceremonious way possible at the worst possible time. Owner Dan Snyder was apparently unconcerned with the resulting weeks of bad press, public humiliation of the team and negative impact on free agency and the draft.
2. Scot McCloughan's drinking had become an issue. In recent months, the team sought to keep him out of public view as much as possible. He did not give a post season press conference. He was not allowed to speak with reporters at the Senior Bowl. In February he was sent home from work, the team claiming that he was away dealing with family issues. The team chose not to bring him to the combine with Allen telling reporters Scot would return when "things are handled". As rumors leaked about the drinking, Jessica McCloughan starts firing off tweets including snarky photos of Scot walking around (looking kind of bloated and ruddy IMO) wearing Redskins gear. Fans and the media begin bashing the team for treating Scot unfairly. The team feels it has no choice but to let Scot go.
Either one of these scenarios is a possibility. I would argue that if you're looking objectively, one of these scenarios is more likely than the other.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:33 pm
by oj
Have you heard anything about Scotts' wife being a little unstable? to the point of affecting things at the Park? and that factored into Scotts leaving?
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:29 pm
by Burgundy&GoldForever
oj wrote:Have you heard anything about Scotts' wife being a little unstable? to the point of affecting things at the Park? and that factored into Scotts leaving?
I asked her directly on twitter what happened with Scot but, of course, she didn't respond. She's certainly a little odd.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:36 am
by DEHog
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:oj wrote:Have you heard anything about Scotts' wife being a little unstable? to the point of affecting things at the Park? and that factored into Scotts leaving?
I asked her directly on twitter what happened with Scot but, of course, she didn't respond. She's certainly a little odd.
Looks like she did...
https://twitter.com/JessicaMcCloug1/sta ... ah-blah%2F
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:09 am
by Burgundy&GoldForever
DEHog wrote:Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:oj wrote:Have you heard anything about Scotts' wife being a little unstable? to the point of affecting things at the Park? and that factored into Scotts leaving?
I asked her directly on twitter what happened with Scot but, of course, she didn't respond. She's certainly a little odd.
Looks like she did...
https://twitter.com/JessicaMcCloug1/sta ... ah-blah%2F
Yup. That's where I asked. Mine is the first response.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:34 am
by riggofan
oj wrote:Have you heard anything about Scotts' wife being a little unstable? to the point of affecting things at the Park? and that factored into Scotts leaving?
It seems like some of the beat writers have hinted at this. Mainly that her publicly beefing with the team on twitter kind of forced their hand.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:38 am
by riggofan
DEHog wrote:Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:oj wrote:Have you heard anything about Scotts' wife being a little unstable? to the point of affecting things at the Park? and that factored into Scotts leaving?
I asked her directly on twitter what happened with Scot but, of course, she didn't respond. She's certainly a little odd.
Looks like she did...
https://twitter.com/JessicaMcCloug1/sta ... ah-blah%2F
I don't know. I guess everyone is different, and I know this is a different world, but I can't remotely imagine my wife engaging online with my employer like this or me allowing it. Its just bad on multiple, multiple levels.
Re: Scot McCloughan officially fired by the Skins
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:58 am
by Burgundy&GoldForever
riggofan wrote:I don't know. I guess everyone is different, and I know this is a different world, but I can't remotely imagine my wife engaging online with my employer like this or me allowing it. Its just bad on multiple, multiple levels.
Yes, well, until last January I never would have imagined the President spending most of his time tweeting and golfing.
Social media has made the world's ignorance highly visible.