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There's no point engaging on that, man. I have no problem with fans who aren't big on Cousins, haven't bought in on him. People who post comments like that deserve to be ignored.tribeofjudah wrote:Body of work: why is Kirk a "pick machine"...?
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Source close to the Cousins camp tells me as long as Bruce Allen is team president , he will NOT negotiate a long term deal.
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It speaks to most of the players dislike the way Scot McCloughan situation was handled #redskins
So does Cousins signing the FT today mean a trade is about to happen?riggofan wrote:Oh this is getting good:
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Source close to the Cousins camp tells me as long as Bruce Allen is team president , he will NOT negotiate a long term deal.Chick Hernandez
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It speaks to most of the players dislike the way Scot McCloughan situation was handled #redskins
Signing the tag and then saying he won't sign a long term deal seems like he's trying to force a trade. Doesn't mean anything is about to happen.DEHog wrote:So does Cousins signing the FT today mean a trade is about to happen?
I ask because Cousins does give up a little leverage. The Skins can now find a team (of their choosing) to trade Cousins to and he doesn't have a say now. Whereas before he could have refused to sign the FT. May be that at this point he just wants out.riggofan wrote:Signing the tag and then saying he won't sign a long term deal seems like he's trying to force a trade. Doesn't mean anything is about to happen.DEHog wrote:So does Cousins signing the FT today mean a trade is about to happen?
The team is so screwed.
He does have a say. If the Browns offer two first round picks, Cousins can just say: "I'm not going to sign a long term deal with the Browns". The Browns are not giving us two picks for one year of Kirk Cousins.DEHog wrote:I ask because Cousins does give up a little leverage. The Skins can now find a team (of their choosing) to trade Cousins to and he doesn't have a say now. Whereas before he could have refused to sign the FT. May be that at this point he just wants out.riggofan wrote:Signing the tag and then saying he won't sign a long term deal seems like he's trying to force a trade. Doesn't mean anything is about to happen.DEHog wrote:So does Cousins signing the FT today mean a trade is about to happen?
The team is so screwed.
- that Osweiler move was a PLUS - they are not giving up 2 #1 picks for CousinsStop being hysterical Mark. Snyder is a billionaire owner of the Redskins, which is one of the most valuable franchises in the NFL regardless that he has an overrated QB and the dumbest HC in the league. He's pretty smart.markshark84 wrote:hitmandm wrote:So Snyder denying the pick machine's trade request is just creating leverage. It is very smart.
Nothing Snyder ever does could be considered "smart".
It has become clear that Snyder & Allen are the reason Cousins wasn't signed last year. They could have signed him to a deal similar to what Glennon is getting ----- Mike F#$%ing Glennon. I don't think I even need to go into the established track record Snyder has in ruining this organization over and over for 20 years.
The skins have absolutely no leverage. Cousins even reduced his trade value by ASKING for a trade. No package they will get is anything close to what they would have had they signed him to a LTD last year and then wanted to trade him. Denying his trade is akin to Belicheck's "I'm not trading Grappolo" talk ---- everyone on the ENTIRE PLANET KNOWS IT'S BULLSH!T. The only people Snyder is fooling are guys as stupid as he is --- and guess what: there aren't any.
And if you see how SF is packaging their FA signings ---- it is VERY VERY clear they are more than ok with waiting until next season to sign him to a deal Snyder and his b!tch-boy won't match. This is why Snyder can't have nice things.
And if SF is a "debacle" ----- WTF are the skins??????? SF has what appears to be a good GM, one of the best OFF minds in the game, and a clear plan on how to proceed with rebuilding (which is very clear based on the moves they are doing --- I have a similar sentiment to when Scot came in and started making all those moves to clear up cap space, get rid of aging players, keep draft picks, invest in the right players, etc). And on the other hand, we are a total sh!tshow having already destroyed the winning roster Scot put together.
And if you are on the side of Snyder and calling him "smart" ---- I think that says a lot about your ability to evaluate or opine on personnel moves.
He is not Elway or Marino. He is a pick machine because he throws picks when it counts. Look at last years last game. Look at the Pro bowl. Watch any MNF. They guy chokes and throws picks. Bars in DC offered free drinks for every KC pick at one time. Dinking high % passes and choking when it counts isn't an elite QBtribeofjudah wrote:Body of work: why is Kirk a "pick machine"...?
Compare that with Elway or Marino or others....how would it compare? I don't know.
riggofan wrote:There's no point engaging on that, man. I have no problem with fans who aren't big on Cousins, haven't bought in on him. People who post comments like that deserve to be ignored.tribeofjudah wrote:Body of work: why is Kirk a "pick machine"...?
The Redskins are one of the most valuable franchised in spite of Snyder not because of him. You or I could make money owning an NFL team! Have you been to FedEx lately, the upper bowl s a ghost town,, the end zones of the club level are covered up and if it weren’t for opposing fans a quarter of the seats would be empty. That is a direct result of Snyder owning the team!!hitmandm wrote:
Stop being hysterical Mark. Snyder is a billionaire owner of the Redskins, which is one of the most valuable franchises in the NFL regardless that he has an overrated QB and the dumbest HC in the league. He's pretty smart.
Scot is a drunk who couldn't draft, couldn't evaluate FA and have left the Redskins in a poor place in the QB department. How can the Redskins be over such a barrel with such and meh QB? He takes a Guard at 5? No one does that. So stupid.
I have seen this coming for years. You and others here don't want to listen to other points of view then you write 5 paragraphs whining about when you are wrong. Its pretty ridiculous to think a GM will come in here and wrest control from an Owner. I'm pretty sure that Ive tried to explain that here before. Gruden will be gone due to this fact as well.
Snyder has not been a successful owner. But how this played out was always clear. Cosuins limitations are clear. So is Grudens. It was never going to end up differently.
Cousins said on Adam Schefter of ESPN’s podcast that he asked Snyder if he was going to be traded, but Snyder told him they wanted to keep him there. And that fell well short of the report he asked for a trade, which Cousins learned about while shoe shopping with his wife.
“I laughed and thought, ‘I don’t know where that comes from because that wasn’t the case,'” Cousins said. “Somehow it got twisted to where an employee of the store is using the word demanded. That’s not the approach I took. . . .
“In this league, things change so fast and players can get blindsided all the time with decisions. They’ll cut you on your birthday. They’ll cut you on the day your child is born. They’ll cut you on Christmas Eve. You never know what will happen. I’ll always keep an open mind so I won’t get blindsided, but from what I heard in conversations, I felt very much supported and felt the owner and president of the team want me to be the quarterback there and to be the quarterback there for a long time.”
Cousins claims he never demanded trade
On Adam Schefter's Know Them From Adam podcast, franchise-tagged Kirk Cousins claimed he never demanded a trade to owner Dan Snyder.
"I did inquire if there was any interest in trading me to get an understanding of their perspective," Cousins said. "The answer I got back was Mr. Snyder communicated his belief in me and desire for me to remain a Redskin." It is possible he never "demanded" a trade, but there has been too much smoke about Cousins wanting to get out of Washington for there not to be any fire. It still seems unlikely the two sides work out a long-term extension before the July 15 deadline.
The pro bowl?? Really? The pro bowl?hitmandm wrote:He is not Elway or Marino. He is a pick machine because he throws picks when it counts. Look at last years last game. Look at the Pro bowl. Watch any MNF. They guy chokes and throws picks. Bars in DC offered free drinks for every KC pick at one time. Dinking high % passes and choking when it counts isn't an elite QBtribeofjudah wrote:Body of work: why is Kirk a "pick machine"...?
Compare that with Elway or Marino or others....how would it compare? I don't know.
Don't feed it, man.PAPDOG67 wrote:The pro bowl?? Really? The pro bowl?
