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Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:11 am
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:we don't need to hope for a better performance from a defense that is not that great, we need to take better advantage of our scoring opportunities on offense
That's just a recipe for failure. The Cardinals game proved it. Scoring 30+ points a game might be a strategy to beat the Cleveland Browns, but its not good enough to consistently beat teams with a legit QB and a top defense.

If the Redskins can't play better defense there is little hope of making the playoffs and zippy chance of winning a game against a team like the Seattle Seahawks.

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:49 am
by SkinsJock
riggofan wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:we don't need to hope for a better performance from a defense that is not that great, we need to take better advantage of our scoring opportunities on offense
That's just a recipe for failure. The Cardinals game proved it. Scoring 30+ points a game might be a strategy to beat the Cleveland Browns, but its not good enough to consistently beat teams with a legit QB and a top defense.
If the Redskins can't play better defense there is little hope of making the playoffs and zippy chance of winning a game against a team like the Seattle Seahawks.
I'm not saying the defense cannot play better - they have to - everyone has to do a better job than we saw last Sunday

just pointing out that the Redskins have to take better advantage of their scoring opportunities

our Red Zone stats suck and it's not because of the players it's because of the play calling

our total offense is #2 and we are #3 in the NFL for Red Zone opportunities but our Red Zone scoring TDs is #31 = GAG ME

we need to win this game this week or we are putting our fate in other teams hands = NOT GOOD

we don't need to go 4-0 - 3-1 will do it but ... win this game and then we only need 2 of the next 3

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:06 pm
by SKIN4LIFE
Do you think Bowles could be out of a job with the Jets. If so, why not get rid of our DC and pick him up. He was a Redskin and he uses an attacking defense. Just sayin....

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:54 pm
by Deadskins
SKIN4LIFE wrote:Do you think Bowles could be out of a job with the Jets. If so, why not get rid of our DC and pick him up. He was a Redskin and he uses an attacking defense. Just sayin....
That's interesting. I'd go for that.

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:32 am
by DEHog
Good point Riggo...Snyder should have this hanging in his suite to remind him not to get involved!!
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Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:27 am
by SkinsJock
Snyder is a loose cannon - there is nothing rational in his decision making as far as this franchise is concerned

Bruce & Scot seem to have him 'under control' right now - the product on the field is improving

everything will be fine .... as long as we make the playoffs :twisted:

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:47 pm
by riggofan
DEHog wrote:Good point Riggo...Snyder should have this hanging in his suite to remind him not to get involved!!
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38-10 at halftime. ooof.

When I hear people talking about coaching changes with where the team is now, all I can hear is this in my head...

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Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:24 pm
by Burgundy&GoldForever
SkinsJock wrote:Snyder is a loose cannon - there is nothing rational in his decision making as far as this franchise is concerned

Bruce & Scot seem to have him 'under control' right now - the product on the field is improving

everything will be fine .... as long as we make the playoffs :twisted:
Dan Snyder hasn't done anything other than sign checks in over two years but don't let that get in the way of your narrative.

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:09 pm
by DarthMonk
Deadskins wrote:
SKIN4LIFE wrote:Do you think Bowles could be out of a job with the Jets. If so, why not get rid of our DC and pick him up. He was a Redskin and he uses an attacking defense. Just sayin....
That's interesting. I'd go for that.
Meh. He might be good. He might not. Not that Barry is killin' it.

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:59 pm
by riggofan
This is pretty good info:
Since 2002, a comprehensive list of teams that had a worse third-down defense than the Redskins:

2011 San Diego Chargers (49.2%)
:shock:

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:14 pm
by SkinsJock
riggofan wrote:This is pretty good info:
Since 2002, a comprehensive list of teams that had a worse third-down defense than the Redskins:

2011 San Diego Chargers (49.2%)
well - that's certainly encouraging .... not sure what bearing it has on anything but it's possibly useful to someone :lol:

"pretty good info" sums it up nicely

maybe the opposing offenses should make sure they don't get 1st down on the first 2 downs so they know they'll get it on 3rd down

and if they don't get the 1st down on the 3rd down, our stats on 4th down defense are even worse = 54.5% :lol:

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:24 pm
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:
riggofan wrote:This is pretty good info:
Since 2002, a comprehensive list of teams that had a worse third-down defense than the Redskins:

2011 San Diego Chargers (49.2%)
well - that's certainly encouraging .... not sure what bearing it has on anything but it's possibly useful to someone :lol:
This team is not just bad on third downs. They are historically bad on third downs. Only one team has been worse in the past 15 years.

Yeah I'm not really sure that info has any bearing on anything either. Not like its affecting our ability to win games or anything.

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:14 pm
by SkinsJock
History means nothing - it's what happens on the field today that counts - we have to get better defensively but if we don't also get better offensively, it will not matter - the outcome of these games is not determined by the fact that we've always been bad

anyone that thinks we are OK offensively and would be better off if we just got better on stopping other teams one 3rd downs is just kidding themselves

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:32 pm
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:History means nothing - it's what happens on the field today that counts - we have to get better defensively but if we don't also get better offensively, it will not matter - the outcome of these games is not determined by the fact that we've always been bad

anyone that thinks we are OK offensively and would be better off if we just got better on stopping other teams one 3rd downs is just kidding themselves
I just can't anymore. :up:

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:23 pm
by Burgundy&GoldForever
Adam Schefter reports Jordan Reed is probable for the Eagles game. :shock:

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:44 am
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:anyone that thinks we are OK offensively and would be better off if we just got better on stopping other teams one 3rd downs is just kidding themselves
Genius post. Watching yesterday's game literally come down to one final drive where we needed the defense to make a stop, I was thinking, "You know, it really doesn't matter much if the defense plays better here or not. I'm probably just kidding myself on that."

Re: Arizona Postgame - Eagle Pregame

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:31 am
by SkinsJock
historically, we probably should have lost that game because we haven't had a good defense in decades :lol:

it certainly helped that they decided to kick the FG instead of scoring a TD against our historically bad defense :lol: