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TexasCowboy wrote:Let me put it to you like this - the NO Stars with 3 missing defensive starters, and a ***** secondary managed
a fumble, an INT and 2 sacks vs Mike&Mike great Gints D line that failed to sack him or
cause enough pressure to where he would throw an interception or fumble the ball

That doesn't surprise me at all. The NYGs have the worst offensive line in the division IMO.

Mike&Mike seemed to be giving the Giants d-line all of this credit for keeping Zeke in check. I don't know. He should be a good RB, but he's still a rookie playing his first game. Not to mention these nfc east games are almost always tight like that.

I'm just not scared of the g-men at all this year. Suspect they're highly overrated.

Deadskins wrote:

TexasCowboy wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:The pukes should have won the game - the giants are not that good either

For once I will agree except that Dallas should have won the game, Neither side IMO
was overly blowing anyone away with missed chances, NY had the 1 turnover the NO
stars converted into a touchdown outside of that? In the end it needed to end in a tie
just to do the game itself justice

And Dez was the victim of yet another non-catch, because he can't keep ahold of the ball through the act of going to the ground.

Joe Buck, who I have often considered to be a bit of a Cowboy fan, was spot on.

Paraphrasing, he said it is possible Dez's hand was under the ball the entire time thereby preventing it from hitting the ground. However, while the ball was not under his control, Dez contacted the white paint which is out of bounds.

The funniest part was the apparent shock on Dez's face.

If I read TC's rules correctly, he would say the play should have been over and ruled a TD the instant a molecule of Dez's arm contacted the turf. This is, of course, wrong since Dez went to the ground during the process of attempting to make a catch and control must be maintained during and after contact with the ground with or without contact from a defender.

They are making a classic mistake down there in The Cowboyszone but at least they still care.

They're calling this Redskins Week.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/redskins ... to.356774/

riggofan wrote:That doesn't surprise me at all. The NYGs have the worst offensive line in the division IMO.

There defense isn't any better trust me

riggofan wrote:Mike&Mike seemed to be giving the Giants d-line all of this credit for keeping Zeke in check. I don't know. He should be a good RB, but he's still a rookie playing his first game. Not to mention these nfc east games are almost always tight like that.

Overall they kept Zeke and Morris to under a hundred, but how do they explain not pressuring Dak? now I agree
thus far the kid will be good eventually as he matures in the NFL. but Mike&Mike are seriously grasping at straws
hyping a Gints offense and defense that aren't that good

riggofan wrote:I'm just not scared of the g-men at all this year. Suspect they're highly overrated.

Sheli is the only thing holding it all together if the NO Stars did anything? they proved you
can pressure him, force him to throw INT's or even get em to fumble the rock

Deadskins wrote:And Dez was the victim of yet another non-catch, because he can't keep ahold of the ball through the act of going to the ground.

This time he couldn't hold onto it! slipped right through his hands

DarthMonk wrote:Joe Buck, who I have often considered to be a bit of a Cowboy fan, was spot on.

Paraphrasing, he said it is possible Dez's hand was under the ball the entire time thereby preventing it from hitting the ground. However, while the ball was not under his control, Dez contacted the white paint which is out of bounds.

The funniest part was the apparent shock on Dez's face.

If I read TC's rules correctly, he would say the play should have been over and ruled a TD the instant a molecule of Dez's arm contacted the turf. This is, of course, wrong since Dez went to the ground during the process of attempting to make a catch and control must be maintained during and after contact with the ground with or without contact from a defender.

Wrong on both counts Monk, even if it had been caught inbounds (this time around) it was still
an incomplete pass due to the fact (see above) it managed to slip through his hands, whereas
in the GB game? the ball only appeared to have hit the ground when in fact it was securely
tucked away

DarthMonk wrote:They are making a classic mistake down there in The Cowboyszone but at least they still care.

They're calling this Redskins Week.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/redskins ... to.356774/

ah in denial and looking for silver lining excuses? reminds me of another forum that
does the exact same thing, sound familiar?

TexasCowboy wrote:ah in denial and looking for silver lining excuses? reminds me of another forum that
does the exact same thing, sound familiar?

Dude, we're living through the Dan Snyder era. Denial and silver lining excuses are a couple of my best friends. I make no apologies for it!

TexasCowboy wrote:Overall they kept Zeke and Morris to under a hundred, but how do they explain not pressuring Dak? now I agree
thus far the kid will be good eventually as he matures in the NFL. but Mike&Mike are seriously grasping at straws
hyping a Gints offense and defense that aren't that good

Agree with what you're saying. The NYGs have the Saints this weekend, so we'll see how well they do vs. Brees.

riggofan wrote:Dude, we're living through the Dan Snyder era. Denial and silver lining excuses are a couple of my best friends. I make no apologies for it!

I've been living through the Jerruh era since forever and I can't make any
excuses for the fact he is by far the worst owner in the league

riggofan wrote:Agree with what you're saying. The NYGs have the Saints this weekend, so we'll see how well they do vs. Brees.

we shall see I think N.O. takes em

The TC App wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:Joe Buck, who I have often considered to be a bit of a Cowboy fan, was spot on.

Paraphrasing, he said it is possible Dez's hand was under the ball the entire time thereby preventing it from hitting the ground. However, while the ball was not under his control, Dez contacted the white paint which is out of bounds.

The funniest part was the apparent shock on Dez's face.

If I read TC's rules correctly, he would say the play should have been over and ruled a TD the instant a molecule of Dez's arm contacted the turf. This is, of course, wrong since Dez went to the ground during the process of attempting to make a catch and control must be maintained during and after contact with the ground with or without contact from a defender.

Wrong on both counts Monk, even if it had been caught inbounds (this time around) it was still
an incomplete pass due to the fact (see above) it managed to slip through his hands, whereas
in the GB game? the ball only appeared to have hit the ground when in fact it was securely
tucked away

^^^ Another idiotic post.

BTW - they have over 5 pages of threads in the Cowboyszone on the first game. One idiot is arguing Dez caught the ball with TC's "down by contact" "logic" and the rest of the board is calling him out for the idiot he is. Mostly they are typing SMH and LOL since trying to explain it to the dude is total waste of time.

Good stuff.

I did watch the game and just like our team I did not see much to get a good feel for anything definitive - the pukes OL looks good but we knew that - the QB played OK but was not near as good as Aikman implied - the Dallas D does not look very good - the giants D line looks improved but their offense did not take full advantage of the pukes bad D

our offense should do much better against the pukes D and Dez B is not even close to being as good as Antonio Brown

causing the pukes to start off 0-2 in the division would be a disaster in pukesville

DarthMonk wrote:^^^ Another idiotic post.

BTW - they have over 5 pages of threads in the Cowboyszone on the first game. One idiot is arguing Dez caught the ball with TC's "down by contact" "logic" and the rest of the board is calling him out for the idiot he is. Mostly they are typing SMH and LOL since trying to explain it to the dude is total waste of time.

Good stuff.

NO contact made



^^ contact made

TexasCowboy wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:^^^ Another idiotic post.

BTW - they have over 5 pages of threads in the Cowboyszone on the first game. One idiot is arguing Dez caught the ball with TC's "down by contact" "logic" and the rest of the board is calling him out for the idiot he is. Mostly they are typing SMH and LOL since trying to explain it to the dude is total waste of time.

Good stuff.

NO contact made



^^ contact made

Point being ??

... "with or without contact" ... SMFH

Note in first gif the FIRST THING TO CONTACT THE GROUND is a finger OUT OF BOUNDS.

Note in 2nd gif contact also occurs between ball and turf though denied by TC App.

Monk - your not going to pick a fight and start crap dude...cause I in NO way
am calling this pass complete, I acknowledged that his fingers were out of
bounds, but I also acknowledged if you had been paying close attention to
what I posted. That had he caught it! This time around he did not have the
control the ball went straight from his hands down to his knees

so whatever this clown at Cowboyszone is attempting to argue
is 100% wrong

Isn't this discussion supposed to be about this week's game?

DarthMonk wrote:They are making a classic mistake down there in The Cowboyszone but at least they still care.

They're calling this Redskins Week.

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/redskins ... to.356774/

Yo.. Is this our counter-fan site for THN?

Regarding the matchups to look forward to, one cow fan wrote "The matchup of beer vs my lips.".


Read the comments though, they drag their bums like we drag our bums.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Isn't this discussion supposed to be about this week's game?

Yes it is

langleyparkjoe wrote:Regarding the matchups to look forward to, one cow fan wrote "The matchup of beer vs my lips.".


Read the comments though, they drag their bums like we drag our bums.

at least he has something to look forward to, sure beats having to watch those no
idiots screw up everything you hoped and dream for

TGIF ...

and

we're still favored to beat the pukes ... GOTTA LOVE IT

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:Dallas will post 200+ yards rushing against us.

I hope Josh Doctson turns into a great wide receiver because choosing him over an obvious need area of DL is hard to handle. Offensive line and defensive line win games. We all know that. It's pretty straight forward.

Watching the Skins line get mauled by Pittsburgh took away my confidence in the 2016 Skins. I watched a bit of a Dallas game and the their OL was opening big holes for Morris. Elliott didn't do much while I was watching but Alfred was enjoying a great game.

I agree with you about the Doctson choice. I hope he turns out to be a big part of the offense long term and I am aware Jackson and Garcon are both in contract years but I wish the Skins had used that pick for a starting OL in stead of a WR.

The Dallas replacement QB was looking good also so the Romo injury didn't seem to slow Dallas down. It will get ugly if the Skins get bullied up front and lose the game.

TexasCowboy wrote:Monk - your not going to pick a fight and start crap dude...cause I in NO way
am calling this pass complete, I acknowledged that his fingers were out of
bounds, but I also acknowledged if you had been paying close attention to
what I posted. That had he caught it! This time around he did not have the
control the ball went straight from his hands down to his knees

so whatever this clown at Cowboyszone is attempting to argue
is 100% wrong

Agreed.

OldSchool wrote:I watched a bit of a Dallas game and the their OL was opening big holes for Morris. Elliott didn't do much while I was watching but Alfred was enjoying a great game.

Big holes? lmao Morris had but 1 sprint that netted him a 13 yard gain and Prescott managed but 1 sprint
for his longest 11 yards, everything before and after that was a snail's pace in the running game...and I
don't expect that to change this week against you guys, something tells me, That Prescott is going to be
the guy that will be forced to beat you with his arm

Dallas 10 Washington 34

TexasCowboy wrote:

OldSchool wrote:I watched a bit of a Dallas game and the their OL was opening big holes for Morris. Elliott didn't do much while I was watching but Alfred was enjoying a great game.

Big holes? lmao Morris had but 1 sprint that netted him a 13 yard gain and Prescott managed but 1 sprint
for his longest 11 yards, everything before and after that was a snail's pace in the running game...and I
don't expect that to change this week against you guys, something tells me, That Prescott is going to be
the guy that will be forced to beat you with his arm

Dallas 10 Washington 34

Dallas may have allowed 4.4 yards per rushing attempt to the Giants, which places them in the bottom ten, but the Giants allowed 4.2, which also places them in the bottom ten.

The Redskins allowed 4.8, which places them 31st, only .1 yards per attempt ahead of league "leader" New Orleans.

So, it stands to reason whichever team plays any defense whatsoever wins the game. Except that the Redskins are back to their "Score points?" mode.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Dallas may have allowed 4.4 yards per rushing attempt to the Giants, which places them in the bottom ten, but the Giants allowed 4.2, which also places them in the bottom ten.

The Redskins allowed 4.8, which places them 31st, only .1 yards per attempt ahead of league "leader" New Orleans.

So, it stands to reason whichever team plays any defense whatsoever wins the game. Except that the Redskins are back to their "Score points?" mode.

The No Stars didn't just screw the pooch giving up that many yards rushing, the NO stars were torn apart
via the passing game as well and so..If Washington has any type of good run/pass protection with just
enough of a decent front 4, LB's and secondary, That 34-10 prediction will hold no worries

Just gotta warn everyone, Alf is already out there putting on a SHOW at Fedex. Hugging and signing stuff for everyone out there. People still love him, rightly so.