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Countertrey wrote:Frankly, both are cowards, one lies habitually, and one doesn't know how to throttle his mouth. This election risks the end of America, which ever way it turns.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Frankly, both are cowards, one lies habitually, and one doesn't know how to throttle his mouth. This election risks the end of America, which ever way it turns.

I like the options about as much as you do but whereas Clinton will work with some of the people some of the time Trump works with none of the people none of the time.

Trump may be running as a Republican but no Republican believes he is one at his core. GOP leaders are fully aware they cannot control Trump.

At least with Clinton we already know what to expect. Pretty much the status quo.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Frankly, both are cowards, one lies habitually, and one doesn't know how to throttle his mouth. This election risks the end of America, which ever way it turns.

I like the options about as much as you do but whereas Clinton will work with some of the people some of the time Trump works with none of the people none of the time.

Trump may be running as a Republican but no Republican believes he is one at his core. GOP leaders are fully aware they cannot control Trump.

At least with Clinton we already know what to expect. Pretty much the status quo.

Countertrey wrote:

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Frankly, both are cowards, one lies habitually, and one doesn't know how to throttle his mouth. This election risks the end of America, which ever way it turns.

I like the options about as much as you do but whereas Clinton will work with some of the people some of the time Trump works with none of the people none of the time.

Trump may be running as a Republican but no Republican believes he is one at his core. GOP leaders are fully aware they cannot control Trump.

At least with Clinton we already know what to expect. Pretty much the status quo.

Any suggestion that Clinton will moderate her stance and abandon the left borders on insanity. She will, as always, work only with the left. Democrats in power will shove their agenda down the throats of those they declare to serve ( see Obamacare) They know what is good for us.

Trump, whether you like it or not, is a "dealer". He lives for and by the negotiation. That means, give AND take. I don't care how evil you may believe him to be, he clearly knows how to work with people, including those whom may not like him. Kindly identify a single successful negotiation concluded by Hillary. I have all year.

Countertrey wrote:vote for Trump, whom will, at least, be good for the economy.

Deadskins wrote:

Countertrey wrote:vote for Trump, whom will, at least, be good for the economy.

I don't see how you can make that case at all. Look at what the BREXIT has done overnight to the British economy.

Countertrey wrote:The UK will be fine, btw...

Deadskins wrote:

Countertrey wrote:The UK will be fine, btw...

Only if the U stands for un-united. England may be losing partners from that union too.

DarthMonk wrote:A personal friend took over a plumbing business started by his grandfather. He got a contract at the Trump casino in NJ. Trump reneged on $335,000 and put him out of business. He's done it to a bunch of people. This is typical. He's done it a lot. No thanks.

DarthMonk wrote:A personal friend took over a plumbing business started by his grandfather. He got a contract at the Trump casino in NJ. Trump reneged on $335,000 and put him out of business. He's done it to a bunch of people. This is typical. He's done it a lot. No thanks.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:A personal friend took over a plumbing business started by his grandfather. He got a contract at the Trump casino in NJ. Trump reneged on $335,000 and put him out of business. He's done it to a bunch of people. This is typical. He's done it a lot. No thanks.

I think I read about this in the Washington Post. Or maybe it was the New York Times.

Countertrey wrote:

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:A personal friend took over a plumbing business started by his grandfather. He got a contract at the Trump casino in NJ. Trump reneged on $335,000 and put him out of business. He's done it to a bunch of people. This is typical. He's done it a lot. No thanks.

I think I read about this in the Washington Post. Or maybe it was the New York Times.

Most likely the Times. They haven't vetted a story that is favorable to the left in decades... and, frequently publish outright falsehoods as a result. They ceased being an actual news source at the beginning of the century. smh...

Countertrey wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:A personal friend took over a plumbing business started by his grandfather. He got a contract at the Trump casino in NJ. Trump reneged on $335,000 and put him out of business. He's done it to a bunch of people. This is typical. He's done it a lot. No thanks.

Sorry... I'll wait for Paul Harvey to tell me "the rest of the story". Among other things, I suspect Trump hasn't personally dealt with a subcontractor in decades... and, his corporations having had dealings with literally tens of thousands of contractors and employees, I can't help but wonder where the rest of these stories of horrible treatment of contractors and employees are... you KNOW the Clintoon campaign is digging furiously, yet, the crickets are still deafening...

SkinsJock wrote:as bad as the choices are, hopefully the voters will show that this country will not tolerate politicians who do nothing & lie

there are a lot of people in this country that are fed up with what is happening in DC - if you don't vote you're just as bad and most of the 318+ million will not

Deadskins wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:A personal friend took over a plumbing business started by his grandfather. He got a contract at the Trump casino in NJ. Trump reneged on $335,000 and put him out of business. He's done it to a bunch of people. This is typical. He's done it a lot. No thanks.

Sorry... I'll wait for Paul Harvey to tell me "the rest of the story". Among other things, I suspect Trump hasn't personally dealt with a subcontractor in decades... and, his corporations having had dealings with literally tens of thousands of contractors and employees, I can't help but wonder where the rest of these stories of horrible treatment of contractors and employees are... you KNOW the Clintoon campaign is digging furiously, yet, the crickets are still deafening...

The rest of the story is that the casino filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Trump proudly boasts all the time about how he has "used, brilliantly, the laws of the country" to further his interests. So, I suppose you can applaud him for that, but don't think for a minute that doesn't mean he didn't screw others over in doing so. Maybe that's his plan to solve the national debt too.

DarthMonk wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Countertrey wrote: Sorry... I'll wait for Paul Harvey to tell me "the rest of the story". Among other things, I suspect Trump hasn't personally dealt with a subcontractor in decades... and, his corporations having had dealings with literally tens of thousands of contractors and employees, I can't help but wonder where the rest of these stories of horrible treatment of contractors and employees are... you KNOW the Clintoon campaign is digging furiously, yet, the crickets are still deafening...

The rest of the story is that the casino filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Trump proudly boasts all the time about how he has "used, brilliantly, the laws of the country" to further his interests. So, I suppose you can applaud him for that, but don't think for a minute that doesn't mean he didn't screw others over in doing so. Maybe that's his plan to solve the national debt too.

It's his MO.

He says:

"It's the bank's problem."

No thanks.

langleyparkjoe wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:as bad as the choices are, hopefully the voters will show that this country will not tolerate politicians who do nothing & lie

there are a lot of people in this country that are fed up with what is happening in DC - if you don't vote you're just as bad ... hard to believe that most of the 318+ million will not vote

Well you're right but we have one politician who lies like it's the greatest thing invented and a non-politician who lies because he's just a dumb***... so what do we now sir?

Countertrey wrote:Corruption wins

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b) As used in subsection (a) of this section—

The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;

The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;

The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;

The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;

The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.