Skins trade for S Dashon Goldson, swap 2016 picks

[Prowl33]

Scots genius and influence strikes again. With Perry Fewell coaching up Goldston and Johnson at safety, then Breeland and Culliver at corner, plus if D Hall is coming back healthy.

Our backfield is completely different than last year, and I think with the changes made to the defense as a whole, coaching staff and players, we may be able to be a top 50% unit this year which would be fantastic. As we draft the next few years and the unit grows together we may be able to sustain a top 10 defense.

Scot really is a mastermind... he has tackled free agency with patience and in a way that if he does strike out on any of the signings impact beyond this year is minimal if non existant.

[EA7649]

There has only been one notorious rebutthole round these parts for the last year...

Except when Cousins was stinking up the place.. he was "golfing" or something other then watching our team.

Not sure how EVERY thread one person touches can turn into an RgHate campaign. . Id gladly give the picks all over again for the contending year, dullass sweep, nfcE title, multiple nationally televised games won, records being broken for us instead of VS us- oh and the playoffs!

Oldstool you can put what ever u want in your pipe and smoke it, but to not give Robert any credit is ludicrous! Mike all but quit on the team before the streak and much of it was Robert carrying the team.
The injury was a freak accident, not getting drilled for running.. ask Bradford about pocket passers acl's being less at risk!!
Luckily we have non biased people with football IQ running the show now. I wonder what itll take to quiet the haterz..

Dashon referred to Sean Taylor in his introduction to us fans, and emphasize his admiration- while tempering expectations he explained he isn't trying to replace or be him. Pretty honorable statements coming to a new team.. im trying to find a text version I can paste but its all images of the text

Yea and It wasn't really trading 3 1st rounders. Technically it was but 1 was to move up... I don't want to write more bc you know a hater will continue this argument. There has been at least 20 post topics about this. Can't wait to see more

And I like the fire and skills dashon gives the team

[SkinsJock]

I'm encouraged by what we've seen and hopeful these guys will help make things better here

most of us understand that some of these moves are being made just to help the long term plan - we all would love to have a good roster and to see a competitive product on the field each and every week but we also understand that that is not happening in a year or 2

these guys have a plan and we're now seeing what can happen when the guys in charge are looking to the future like we seem to be now

[riggofan]

Please stay on topic... Thanks.

lol. People just can't help themselves. I was listening to this same topic on 980 the other day and they had to keep shutting people down who kept bringing it back to RGIII!!!

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

^^^^ see how EA and I (cleverly) ended with a paragraph ON topic to qualify our "post" as on topic?!

It IS hard tho.. I try to keep out of the rg talks cus a lot of rubbish gets thrown on, I even have some people blocked... I feel its my civic duty to the board, however, to correct people when they are blatantly wrong (as off topic as they may be [blocked or not])

I DO truly wonder where D Hall is on his recovery and how he factors into THIS back field. He WAS the best we had, and IF healthy, should be able to contribute- hopefully Shine w a better supporting cast!! Ala Jay Cutlers Nemesis game!!!!

[Countertrey]

^^^^ see how EA and I (cleverly) ended with a paragraph ON topic to qualify our "post" as on topic?!

It IS hard tho.. I try to keep out of the rg talks cus a lot of rubbish gets thrown on, I even have some people blocked... I feel its my civic duty to the board, however, to correct people when they are blatantly wrong (as off topic as they may be [blocked or not])

I DO truly wonder where D Hall is on his recovery and how he factors into THIS back field. He WAS the best we had, and IF healthy, should be able to contribute- hopefully Shine w a better supporting cast!! Ala Jay Cutlers Nemesis game!!!!

Goldson's presence gives the DC lots of options. I think, that with a good SS in front of him, the chances of Hall seeing lots of time at FS have increased. I think he'll also be positioned to take advantage of his ball hawking skills more, when in coverage against slower receivers... you know, baiting an breaking (something he does really well). All depends upon how confident he is in his Achilles.

[EA7649]

^^^^ see how EA and I (cleverly) ended with a paragraph ON topic to qualify our "post" as on topic?!

The one who throws the last punch gets recognized.

There should be a "RG penalty" whenever someone brings him up in a different topic he gets penalized lol. I'm not going to bring up Adrian Peterson...that's even more off topic.

I'm honestly really happy safety is being more addressed. For years I've felt secondary has been a huge issue.

[PulpExposure]

^^^^ see how EA and I (cleverly) ended with a paragraph ON topic to qualify our "post" as on topic?!

It IS hard tho.. I try to keep out of the rg talks cus a lot of rubbish gets thrown on, I even have some people blocked... I feel its my civic duty to the board, however, to correct people when they are blatantly wrong (as off topic as they may be [blocked or not])

I DO truly wonder where D Hall is on his recovery and how he factors into THIS back field. He WAS the best we had, and IF healthy, should be able to contribute- hopefully Shine w a better supporting cast!! Ala Jay Cutlers Nemesis game!!!!

Goldson's presence gives the DC lots of options. I think, that with a good SS in front of him, the chances of Hall seeing lots of time at FS have increased. I think he'll also be positioned to take advantage of his ball hawking skills more, when in coverage against slower receivers... you know, baiting an breaking (something he does really well). All depends upon how confident he is in his Achilles.

From what I read, Goldson is going ot play free safety. It's what he played in San Fran, and what he played in Tampa.

Jeron Johnson will get first crack at strong.

[Countertrey]

^^^^ see how EA and I (cleverly) ended with a paragraph ON topic to qualify our "post" as on topic?!

It IS hard tho.. I try to keep out of the rg talks cus a lot of rubbish gets thrown on, I even have some people blocked... I feel its my civic duty to the board, however, to correct people when they are blatantly wrong (as off topic as they may be [blocked or not])

I DO truly wonder where D Hall is on his recovery and how he factors into THIS back field. He WAS the best we had, and IF healthy, should be able to contribute- hopefully Shine w a better supporting cast!! Ala Jay Cutlers Nemesis game!!!!

Goldson's presence gives the DC lots of options. I think, that with a good SS in front of him, the chances of Hall seeing lots of time at FS have increased. I think he'll also be positioned to take advantage of his ball hawking skills more, when in coverage against slower receivers... you know, baiting an breaking (something he does really well). All depends upon how confident he is in his Achilles.

From what I read, Goldson is going ot play free safety. It's what he played in San Fran, and what he played in Tampa.

Jeron Johnson will get first crack at strong.

That's what I get for making assumptions about his position based on his reputation as a banger. I read into this that they are heading in the direction of an intimidating, hard hitting team defense personality. I would really like that.

[EA7649]

That'd be ideal for Goldston to go back to his process with the niners where he had success. But I'm not a coach, I'm a fan and they should know what is best to do with players.

[riggofan]

I think he's good enough to be an improvement over last year. The question is how much help he'll get from those guys up front. If they're able to improve the pass rush AND fix some of the major problems at safety, I will be really excited.

Damn, fellas. I'm not asking for a playoff run or anything. I just REALLY want to see this team be competitive every Sunday. Thinking back on the defense we've fielded the past few years, its been pathetic.

[Irn-Bru]

I didn't know much about him, but after doing some research here's the best I've been able to piece things together: Goldson was bad — like, really bad, a mix of the worst qualities in Landry/Merriweather bad — in Tampa. However, he was forced into a scheme that was a terrible fit for him. In San Fran, he was surrounded by top level talent and played in a scheme that was a great fit for his strengths.

So I would anticipate that his "real" ability as it could manifest for us is somewhere in between those two extremes. The question is how well he will fit in what we run, which is really a question of how well McCloughan understood that ahead of trading for him.

Of course, we basically didn't have a starting-quality free safety prior to this trade, so in that sense this was a good move whether or not we see him return closer to his 49ers form. It could also be that McCloughan knew we needed a one- or two-year fix and was just happy to get a guy that could likely have started on several other teams, in contrast to what he already had on the roster.

[OldSchool]

I think he's good enough to be an improvement over last year. The question is how much help he'll get from those guys up front. If they're able to improve the pass rush AND fix some of the major problems at safety, I will be really excited.

Damn, fellas. I'm not asking for a playoff run or anything. I just REALLY want to see this team be competitive every Sunday. Thinking back on the defense we've fielded the past few years, its been pathetic.

Competitive every week? That is as good as I can imagine. I am hoping for improvement, maybe that doesn't make us competitive against the strongest teams or every week but most weeks we are in it and we pick up a couple of more wins.

[Countertrey]

I didn't know much about him, but after doing some research here's the best I've been able to piece things together: Goldson was bad — like, really bad, a mix of the worst qualities in Landry/Merriweather bad — in Tampa. However, he was forced into a scheme that was a terrible fit for him. In San Fran, he was surrounded by top level talent and played in a scheme that was a great fit for his strengths.

So I would anticipate that his "real" ability as it could manifest for us is somewhere in between those two extremes. The question is how well he will fit in what we run, which is really a question of how well McCloughan understood that ahead of trading for him.

Of course, we basically didn't have a starting-quality free safety prior to this trade, so in that sense this was a good move whether or not we see him return closer to his 49ers form. It could also be that McCloughan knew we needed a one- or two-year fix and was just happy to get a guy that could likely have started on several other teams, in contrast to what he already had on the roster.

It may also suggest that we won't see much of Lovie's Tampa 2 being played in DC next season. Scot seems to have a talent for matching talent to scheme...

[HEROHAMO]

I love the move. So what if we gave up a six round pick?

We already have seen what Goldson can do. So I have no worries about him.

[Hooligan]

I love the move. So what if we gave up a six round pick?

We didn't even give up a 6th round pick, we just traded it back to the 7th round and got a starting FS in return. Sweet deal.

[yupchagee]

I didn't know much about him, but after doing some research here's the best I've been able to piece things together: Goldson was bad — like, really bad, a mix of the worst qualities in Landry/Merriweather bad — in Tampa. However, he was forced into a scheme that was a terrible fit for him. In San Fran, he was surrounded by top level talent and played in a scheme that was a great fit for his strengths.

So I would anticipate that his "real" ability as it could manifest for us is somewhere in between those two extremes. The question is how well he will fit in what we run, which is really a question of how well McCloughan understood that ahead of trading for him.

Of course, we basically didn't have a starting-quality free safety prior to this trade, so in that sense this was a good move whether or not we see him return closer to his 49ers form. It could also be that McCloughan knew we needed a one- or two-year fix and was just happy to get a guy that could likely have started on several other teams, in contrast to what he already had on the roster.

I hope S-Mac talked to the D coaches before the trade.

[Countertrey]

I didn't know much about him, but after doing some research here's the best I've been able to piece things together: Goldson was bad — like, really bad, a mix of the worst qualities in Landry/Merriweather bad — in Tampa. However, he was forced into a scheme that was a terrible fit for him. In San Fran, he was surrounded by top level talent and played in a scheme that was a great fit for his strengths.

So I would anticipate that his "real" ability as it could manifest for us is somewhere in between those two extremes. The question is how well he will fit in what we run, which is really a question of how well McCloughan understood that ahead of trading for him.

Of course, we basically didn't have a starting-quality free safety prior to this trade, so in that sense this was a good move whether or not we see him return closer to his 49ers form. It could also be that McCloughan knew we needed a one- or two-year fix and was just happy to get a guy that could likely have started on several other teams, in contrast to what he already had on the roster.

I hope S-Mac talked to the D coaches before the trade.

Just keep in mind... only the Redskins brain trust has any idea,at this time, how the Redskins intend to scheme the defense... I suspect Scot knows the plan, as it is his job to match the talent to it.