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TexasCowboy wrote:

Deadskins wrote:The NFL has confirmed that 11 of the Patriots' 12 balls were under-inflated by 2 psi. Is this a big deal?

In my eyes it is

baseball outlawed corked bats,
golf outlawed long standing putters
cause they felt it gave golfers a un-
fair advantage

A football under inflated?

makes it easier to catch, while
guarenteeing a runner/receiver can't have the
ball punched out ensuring the other
team a chance to turn the ball over

It's all about whether or not the Pats removed air after inspection.

I suspect that the Patriots knew they were reducing the air pressure in the footballs. A QB knows how a football should feel. Using an under-inflated football gave Brady an edge.

DarthMonk wrote:

TexasCowboy wrote:

Deadskins wrote:The NFL has confirmed that 11 of the Patriots' 12 balls were under-inflated by 2 psi. Is this a big deal?

In my eyes it is

baseball outlawed corked bats,
golf outlawed long standing putters
cause they felt it gave golfers a un-
fair advantage

A football under inflated?

makes it easier to catch, while
guarenteeing a runner/receiver can't have the
ball punched out ensuring the other
team a chance to turn the ball over

It's all about whether or not the Pats removed air after inspection.

Duh obviously they did release air to gain a unfair advantage...
but of course

with the league so corrupt nothing will be done about it

is anyone surprised that the NFL is now 'implying' that the refs may not have 'properly' checked the PSI before the game ...

SkinsJock wrote::shock: is anyone surprised that the NFL is now 'implying' that the refs may not have 'properly' checked the PSI before the game ...

Well blame the media...In fairness to the NFL the only thing they ever confrimed was that they were investigating....

DEHog wrote:

SkinsJock wrote::shock: is anyone surprised that the NFL is now 'implying' that the refs may not have 'properly' checked the PSI before the game ...

everyone needs a scapegoat

DEHog wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:Well blame the media...In fairness to the NFL the only thing they ever confrimed was that they were investigating....

before you go "blaming" the media

There is no case for aiding and abetting of corrupt officials/owners/coaches/players
when the media hypes the games

^^
Huh??? I blame the media because the NFL has yet to comment...no one from the NFL has said or confrimed the footballs were deflated.
Man I couldn't follow a game that I felt was fixed, pre-determined or corrupt like you do.
BTW don't you think it would be in the NFL's best interest to see the Cowboys win more because of the way they move the needle? Or is it all legit when the Cowboys win??

DEHog wrote:no one from the NFL has said or confrimed the footballs were deflated.

Sure they have. That's why they're investigating.

SkinsJock wrote::shock: is anyone surprised that the NFL is now 'implying' that the refs may not have 'properly' checked the PSI before the game ...

No, not me. I've posted as much in this thread. I've quoted a long-time ball boy who attested to as much.

As for the "Duh" from someone else, DEFLATION, i.e., releasing air by the Pats is not confirmed. Only low psi during the 1st half has been confirmed. The difference between these two is enormous and is the crux of the matter.

Deadskins wrote:

DEHog wrote:no one from the NFL has said or confrimed the footballs were deflated.

Sure they have. That's why they're investigating.

Where, when...Goodell said the investigation is ongoing...they are investigating because there was a accusation made.

And then today the head of officiating said...

However, Blandino confirmed the results of each ball test were not “logged,”

DEHog wrote:^^
Huh??? I blame the media because the NFL has yet to comment...no one from the NFL has said or confrimed the footballs were deflated.
Man I couldn't follow a game that I felt was fixed, pre-determined or corrupt like you do.
BTW don't you think it would be in the NFL's best interest to see the Cowboys win more because of the way they move the needle? Or is it all legit when the Cowboys win??

Does the media really need to hold up a sign
proclaiming the Patriots guilt in this matter

I don't think so

it's easy for me ... if the result favors the pukes I think the other team lost the game ... if the pukes lose then it's even better

the giants are even worse though

SkinsJock wrote:it's easy for me ... if the result favors the pukes I think the other team lost the game ... if the pukes lose then it's even better

the giants are even worse though

OK I'll play

I would say....if you did a over/under their is
more favoritism towards? the team in question
actually not performing where as the other team
over achieved

bad calls? happen...

But!

it's not the only reason why a team loses a game

The report is out, and it looks like Tom Brady is guilty. I'm guessing a fine will be the only punishment, but there really should be a suspension. Time to show some balls, Goodell.

Excerpts:

Video evidence from pregame of AFC Championship shows McNally detouring to bathroom with two bags of game balls after taking them from officials' dressing room. He remained in bathroom for 1 minute, 40 seconds and then took both bags to field.

McNally took two bags of game balls from Officials Locker Room before start of AFC Championship without receiving permission of referee Walt Anderson. Anderson says that had never happened before in his career.

McNally was interviewed by NFL Security after AFC Championship Game. During that interview he never mentioned taking balls into bathroom. Initially, he stated he walked directly to field.

McNally claimed he stopped in the restroom and used a urinal. Indicated he has used that bathroom near the field entrance while in possession of the game balls "many times." That bathroom has no urinal.

if he's a cheat, kick him out of the game - if you can't prove that he's a cheat then you can't do much about it ..

"It is more probable than not that Tom Brady (the quarterback for the Patriots) was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls."

This is the most vague horse s*** I've ever seen.

fabe wrote:

"It is more probable than not that Tom Brady (the quarterback for the Patriots) was at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities of McNally and Jastremski involving the release of air from Patriots game balls."

This is the most vague horse s*** I've ever seen.

I'm sure Brady was aware that the balls were underinflated. A QB with his experience will know right away when he picks up a ball & squeezes it what the pressure is.

Kraft wrote:"What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts' four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under inflated footballs.

Not defending just saying.

DarthMonk wrote:

Kraft wrote:"What is not highlighted in the text of the report is that three of the Colts' four footballs measured by at least one official were under the required psi level. As far as we are aware, there is no comparable data available from any other game because, in the history of the NFL, psi levels of footballs have never been measured at halftime, in any climate. If they had been, based on what we now know, it is safe to assume that every cold-weather game was played with under inflated footballs.

Not defending just saying.

Actually, in the article I linked to, they made a point of saying that all four of the Colts' footballs that were tested were properly inflated.

Much ado about nothing...

Simple fact is, the Patriots are an awesome program... and it pisses everyone else off...
pisses me off, too... but the fact is, this is all NOTHING but spew.

4 games for Brady, a 2016 1st rounder and 2017 4th rounder. Sure seems like someone thought this was more than just a bunch of hot air.

I'll show myself out.

Over-reaction is the theme of the day.

Don Shula just called the coach "Bill Bela-cheat".

welch wrote:Don Shula just called the coach "Bill Bela-cheat".

He's not the 1st & won't be the last.