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[quote="DEHog"]I've been saying this for a while...RG has zero pocket awareness, he rarely steps up in the pocket and take off running too soon, which results in him taking some pretty tough hits....how do you coach that?? I think that's why Jay came to his conclusion so quickly on him??[/quote

His pocket awareness isn't elite for sure but I don't think you need great pocket awareness to be successful. If you don't have good pocket awareness, you MUST have the ability to get rid of the ball quick (make take years for Robert in the same system), or like RG3 did his rookie year take off running after read 1 and 2 was not available. I think the injuries have spooked him from running tho and thats where the sacks came in. Good thing is he did show an improvement at the end of the year.

I think you can improve pocket awareness. You can coach that by #1 getting a quarterback coach like most teams in the league have. Were we the only team without one? Practice makes perfect. Unfortunately just like in games I don't think our defense ever really pressures him in practice and collapse the pocket like other teams do on game day. So game day come for all of our QBs and the game too fast.

For now it is obvious, since being in a system not designed to his strengths that he is a 2 read, takeoff qb. So that should be stressed instead of him having to exhaust all of his reads. Too often RG3 seemed to try to appease his coaches by staaaaying in the pocket when he should have took off running like he did his rookie year.

Too often he lowered his head, uncocked and took his eye off the field and had to recalibrate. By resetting he lowered the number of fumbles when he took a hit significantly this year but when you are not in a passing ready motion you can't get rid of it as quick as you want.

Bottomline RG3 regressed under Gruden and just not a good qb any longer. He had flaws his spectacular rookie year but they were masked. Now we have a coach that don't want to put in the work to design an offense around him because he don't think he can succeed. People forget Rg3 while playing bad in 2012 connected with Garcon over 100times. Now under Gruden he suddenly don't know how to pass to the receivers. Something is wrong...probably a lil of both.

DarthMonk wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:no offense can be effective with an offensive line that was as ineffective as the one we had this season

and

no offense can be effective with QB play like we had this season from all 3 QBs, but it would not matter who was playing QB

using stats to 'support' this O line is pathetic - you only had to watch them play - the stats are misleading, big time

we can debate/argue all you want - we need better play from the QB and we cannot play offense with an offensive line like this one

I have no stats - only my eyes and experience - for this claim.

If we could go back to August 1, trade our owner, FO, staff, and Griff for Green Bay's owner, FO, staff, and Rodgers, we would have had a winning record and Green Bay would not have. DJax and Garcon would have lit it up and Nelson and Cobb would've struggled. Griff would have been pulling the ball down and scrambling at the first sign of trouble while Rodgers would've been pulling the trigger quickly when needed and sliding around and finding something better when he had time.

Griff would've made their OK o-line look bad and Rodgers would've made our OK o-line look good.

While cannot trade owners with Green Bay -- they belong to people of the town of Green Bay -- the sentiment is right. Especially since the president of the Packers is our own Mark Murphy.

Other Redskins that Snyder let "get away":

- Martin Mayhew, Redskins cornerback, now GM at Detroit
- Todd Bowles, Redskins safety, now defensive coordinator for the Cardinals who is being interviewed by a half-dozen teams who need a head coach.
- Bobby Mitchell, the original "BMitch", who was VP of the Redskins when Dan Snyder took over. Snyder invited Mitchell to retire.

SkinsJock wrote::lol: OK, it's fantasy time - DM, we would not have even needed to go through all that BS you just posted if Dan Snyder, in 2011, had brought in a real GM to manage all of our personnel moves

GUARANTEED, because it's a fact ....

we would not have had such a terrible O line here and would most likely be in the playoffs against the Packers this weekend

I like this ...

Sounds like food for a different thread. Yum yum.