Anyone left on Earth that doesn't think Haz should be fired?

[Kilmer72]

We are missing London Fletcher. Yes, father time caught up to him but at least he could make sure people were in the right place. Dhall being out was the nail in the coffin. These guys are getting experience.
It's hard for me to judge Jim right now. Let's see how it all plays out. My biggest beef with him was his second half adjustments. It has been better this year. What I can't understand is why our corners don't jamb them at the line.

[yupchagee]

Mind boggling is the only words I can come up with for those of you who still feel the need to defend this moron of a coach. He has a massive track record of failure wherever he has gone. In only going back to 2002 which is as far as ESPN goes back in doing some quick homework, Haz is consistently in the bottom third in the league in the all important PPG / Points against category. Say whatever you want and bring up whatever stats you want to defend him, but that is the # 1 stat I look at when looking at a defensive coordinator's effectiveness........and, well, there simply is no defending these numbers, I'm sorry.

2002 - NO 26th - 24.3
2003 - NO 14th - 20.4
2004 - NO T27th - 25.3
2005 - NO 28th - 24.9
2006 - STL 28th - 23.8
2007 - STL 31st - 27.4
2008 - STL 31st - 29.1
2010 - WSH T21st - 23.6
2011 - WSH 21st - 22.9
2012 - WSH 22nd - 24.3
2013 - WSH T30th - 29.9
2014 - WSH 26th - 27.2

In any other profession, this guy is fired immediately. There is simply no defending those numbers. His average defensive rank in these years mentioned is 25.4....this out of 32 teams. He's awful. This man belongs nowhere near an NFL sideline and the sooner we get rid of him, the better.

PPG can be deceptive. ST can have a lot to do with points allowed.

[PAPDOG67]

There's nothing deceptive about PPG. Its what you see on the scoreboard at the end of the game that counts. Specials can't skew the numbers that much consistently over a 10+ year period. Haslett is awful.

[markshark84]

Only issue is that when you play so many young guys in the defensive backfield, you're going to see them making all kinds of mistakes like that.

Agree. And who's fault is it that we only have young CBs? It starts with the FO.

That being said, we do have 2 VETs at the FS and SS positions ---- however, they are both like 80 in DB years.......

[riggofan]

I don't care who's fault it is. We just need to quit making the same mistakes over and over and over and over. And personally I think fans are nearly as guilty as Snyder for the current state of the team. We don't just enable him, we egg him on to make these boneheaded moves.

[Deadskins]

We don't just enable him, we egg him on to make these boneheaded moves.

Who you calling "we?"

[markshark84]

I don't care who's fault it is. We just need to quit making the same mistakes over and over and over and over. And personally I think fans are nearly as guilty as Snyder for the current state of the team. We don't just enable him, we egg him on to make these boneheaded moves.

I think you have a point in that -- after all the FA failures by Danny boy the GM, fans say they don't want us to make those moves anymore..... but then when a top FA comes on the market like DeSean Jackson, everyone goes crazy. I personally wasn't for signing Jackson. He has proven to be a solid player, but I thought our interests (and money) should have gone to the defensive side of the ball.

That being said, I have always been a build via draft, replace via draft, basically have at least 50%+ of your roster come via draft type guy. I have been critical of Danny's GM methods and overall management style since the minute he bought the team --- and have been proven correct in my criticism time and time again. I played the game of football and that experience has provided me an understand of the very complicated dynamic of the non-statistical components of building a team -- something fools like Danny don't understand or care to comprehend. When signing FAs, there are so many determinables to evaluate ---- you can't, like Danny and Vinny did, just replace players of simiar talents and expect the same results. It's not that simple --- not even close.

But I agree with you. Similarly to much in the world, the idiots calilng for all these FA moves tend to be the loudest --- and society has evolved into believing that the loudest and most outrageous are the most correct. And when you have an insecure owner like Danny boy willing to do anything to be liked -- he'll do what the idiot masses say.

[Hooligan]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

[riggofan]

I don't care who's fault it is. We just need to quit making the same mistakes over and over and over and over. And personally I think fans are nearly as guilty as Snyder for the current state of the team. We don't just enable him, we egg him on to make these boneheaded moves.

I think you have a point in that -- after all the FA failures by Danny boy the GM, fans say they don't want us to make those moves anymore..... but then when a top FA comes on the market like DeSean Jackson, everyone goes crazy. I personally wasn't for signing Jackson. He has proven to be a solid player, but I thought our interests (and money) should have gone to the defensive side of the ball.

Yeah exactly. And we're lucky that Jackson has at least been a good player so far as opposed to one of Vinny's FA busts.

I think you guys all know what I'm saying about this. Snyder has figured out that he doesn't really have to have a winning team to have one of the most profitable sports franchises. He just spends an insane amount of money on Albert Haynesworth or trades away three first rounders for the Heisman QB every spring, and he knows the fans get excited, buy their tickets and the media spends months hyping it up. Sometime around mid-October we all come to our senses and realize how little has changed.

Anyway, I know I'm not saying anything you guys don't already know!

[riggofan]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Yeah who is going to come in here and coach these guys so we can win?

[Mirttinur]

Seriously anyone would be an upgrade over Haslett. This guy has no track record, he's basically piggybacked on Dick LeBeau's career when he briefly was Steelers defensive coordinator after LeBeau left. He had one good defense, and then the Steelers started sucking it. He just is bad, I have no idea why he was kept from the last regime.

[SkinsJock]

Seriously, I have no idea why he was kept from the last regime.

really He was kept here because it was the easiest choice & they wanted at the least, a little continuity ... who would have wanted this job anyway - it was obvious back in May that we have a terrible secondary and get V little pressure from the front 7

the biggest issues with this team BEFORE the season began were the defensive secondary and the offensive line

the most important basic for building a franchise apart from having a good QB is to have really good linemen for both the offense and defense and really good depth along both lines - we do not have that here and we were badly hurt by Goodell & Mara in building that up

Haslett has a year to show what he can do no matter who or what he has playing for him - he produces or he's gone

the same is true for many players here this season

[markshark84]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Just off the top of my head, I'd honestly like to see Wade Phillips. I think he is a good DC. His downfall has been taking HC jobs.....

I'm sure there are others, but that is one I would prefer.

[Hooligan]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Just off the top of my head, I'd honestly like to see Wade Phillips. I think he is a good DC. His downfall has been taking HC jobs.....

I'm sure there are others, but that is one I would prefer.

Isn't Wade getting a little old? How many years does he have left?

[chiefhog44]

I'd be in favor of wade Philips. I've always liked him. If we go into the bye with no further improvement on D, I think you have to make a change to see who on defense stays next year.

[chiefhog44]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Just off the top of my head, I'd honestly like to see Wade Phillips. I think he is a good DC. His downfall has been taking HC jobs.....

I'm sure there are others, but that is one I would prefer.

Isn't Wade getting a little old? How many years does he have left?

He's ten years younger than dick lebeau

[Deadskins]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Just off the top of my head, I'd honestly like to see Wade Phillips. I think he is a good DC. His downfall has been taking HC jobs.....

I'm sure there are others, but that is one I would prefer.

That, and he's a Redskins fan now that we employ his son as TE's coach. http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events ... e477941765

[DEHog]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Rex Ryan...We should have looked at Kiffen last year!

[markshark84]

I don't care who's fault it is. We just need to quit making the same mistakes over and over and over and over. And personally I think fans are nearly as guilty as Snyder for the current state of the team. We don't just enable him, we egg him on to make these boneheaded moves.

I think you have a point in that -- after all the FA failures by Danny boy the GM, fans say they don't want us to make those moves anymore..... but then when a top FA comes on the market like DeSean Jackson, everyone goes crazy. I personally wasn't for signing Jackson. He has proven to be a solid player, but I thought our interests (and money) should have gone to the defensive side of the ball.

Yeah exactly. And we're lucky that Jackson has at least been a good player so far as opposed to one of Vinny's FA busts.

I think you guys all know what I'm saying about this. Snyder has figured out that he doesn't really have to have a winning team to have one of the most profitable sports franchises. He just spends an insane amount of money on Albert Haynesworth or trades away three first rounders for the Heisman QB every spring, and he knows the fans get excited, buy their tickets and the media spends months hyping it up. Sometime around mid-October we all come to our senses and realize how little has changed.

[Countertrey]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Rex Ryan...We should have looked at Kiffen last year!

I would have a difficult time being a fan of any team with a son of Buddy, especially Rex, coaching D. Just not acceptable.

[PAPDOG67]

Rex Ryan would be an excellent replacement. He might give this team some much needed balls on the defensive side of the ball.

[Countertrey]

^Obviously, I disagree... strongly.

[Kilmer72]

What defensive coordinators will be available next year?

Rex Ryan...We should have looked at Kiffen last year!

I would have a difficult time being a fan of any team with a son of Buddy, especially Rex, coaching D. Just not acceptable.

I know how you feel. I'm the same way. Any of Buddys offspring. I'd much rather have Willams back if we were going to get someone from the Buddy tree. Besides, what scheme does Ryan run over there? 43? Or does he run dads defense? What was it 46? Fisher might be available too if he stinks it up for a while longer.

[PAPDOG67]

Rex runs a 3-4, and usually a pretty successful one at that.

[SkinsJock]

I really don't see hiring someone that is not a good fit here

the BIGGEST problem this franchise has had is that we used to add players AND coaches based on their reputation and not on whether they will be able to help this franchise

Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato already tried this method of running an NFL franchise - get the best player at every position and the best HC, DC and OC - that'll work

we just need to get back to the basics - we are done with trying the quick fix and we have our QB

Haslett is not THE problem with the defense - we don't have great depth and we don't have players executing properly