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cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
FLWSkin wrote:Considering the fact that if you watch the game really closely and realize that they are showing NONE of the playbook, I think a lot of people are going to be really surprised in a couple of weeks.


I think its funny actually..a lot of people calling for Roberts head will be right back on his tip when he shows up, thats the world we live in tho.

It almost looked to me like they were calling plays we arent as successful with... run up the middle, using Al instead of Young on the goal line runs, keeping Al in on a passing down and throwing to him (the int)...

Im more concerned with Mosses then I am about our qb. Is he ok?! Is Orakpo ok?

Hatcher is going to make this already powerful D line even better!
Who got burned om the 2 minute drill td- was it Chase minnifiel? Maybe that was the td later



That's what I wish people would realize. They are complaining RGIII hasn't lead a TD drive. Well the one with Morris they were trying out the running game: Not RG's fault, and I still say Morris scored on the play they reviewed and said no TD. Game one he led his only drive to a FG, but had a close incomplete in the end zone. Pretty close. You could tell in the Ravens game that they only had about 6 plays they were using. RG looked a little uncomfortable but made a great pass to Reed that got taken away. The int you could tell they wanted him to go to Morris, who was interfered with, that should have been an easy PI call which of course wasn't made. This whole RG is done stuff is just stupid and I really wish people had a clue before they talk.
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cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
FLWSkin wrote:Considering the fact that if you watch the game really closely and realize that they are showing NONE of the playbook, I think a lot of people are going to be really surprised in a couple of weeks.


I think its funny actually..a lot of people calling for Roberts head will be right back on his tip when he shows up, thats the world we live in tho.

It almost looked to me like they were calling plays we arent as successful with... run up the middle, using Al instead of Young on the goal line runs, keeping Al in on a passing down and throwing to him (the int)...

Im more concerned with Mosses then I am about our qb. Is he ok?! Is Orakpo ok?

Hatcher is going to make this already powerful D line even better!
Who got burned om the 2 minute drill td- was it Chase minnifiel? Maybe that was the td later


The Rams might be desperate enough to spend a #1 on Cousins http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... struggles/ I hope they do. Then people might shut up about how much we spent on Robert and we will hear less about Cousins
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FLWSkin wrote:I love how when Campbell had to learn a new system every year, it was, "Give him time, it's a new system" and he still showed NOTHING his entire career. RGIII leads us to the playoffs, plays hurt and without practice and is learning a new system and people want to get rid of him after a few quarters of preseason. I won't blame him one bit when he leaves as a free agent.


His biggest problem was throwing it over the head and into the dirt in front of open receivers. The system is to get them open. At that point it's on him, and he could not do it. The system can't deliver a catchable ball.
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Kilmer72 wrote:The Rams might be desperate enough to spend a #1 on Cousins http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... struggles/ I hope they do. Then people might shut up about how much we spent on Robert and we will hear less about Cousins


Me too. Something kharmic about that.

I don't know if the Rams would go after Cousins or not, but it seems crazy for them to go into the season with Shaun Hill as their starting QB. That's a serious WTF.
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cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:
FLWSkin wrote:Considering the fact that if you watch the game really closely and realize that they are showing NONE of the playbook, I think a lot of people are going to be really surprised in a couple of weeks.


I think its funny actually..a lot of people calling for Roberts head will be right back on his tip when he shows up, thats the world we live in tho.

It almost looked to me like they were calling plays we arent as successful with... run up the middle, using Al instead of Young on the goal line runs, keeping Al in on a passing down and throwing to him (the int)...

Im more concerned with Mosses then I am about our qb. Is he ok?! Is Orakpo ok?

Hatcher is going to make this already powerful D line even better!
Who got burned om the 2 minute drill td- was it Chase minnifiel? Maybe that was the td later


The Rams might be desperate enough to spend a #1 on Cousins http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... struggles/ I hope they do. Then people might shut up about how much we spent on Robert and we will hear less about Cousins


Ya know... I really feel they have been building Cousins value all preseason (theyd be insane not to) and I hope it pays off. This Cousins vs RG3 debate strengthens our position for a trade- makes it look like we really dont want to get rid of him and that itd have to be a strong offer to pry him away. There is a lot of chess being played and I truly hope he goes. It will benefit everyone involved; both teams, both coaches; and both of our current qbs.

Something I dont want st.lous or the Cousins finatics to read: if Kirk was THAT good, wouldnt Kyle have convinced the Brownies to offer more then a 4th rounder? Im glad playing vs bums has his stock higher then at the endbof last season; after playing vs starters (albiet not very good ones)
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riggofan wrote:You know, this is one excuse I don't think the Redskins should use. We did give up a lot to get RGIII, but we drafted two QBs that year. If Cousins really is the better QB then so be it. Pretend those three picks were for KC that year and Griffin was the fourth round guy. Who cares? If that's what it took to find your franchise QB it was worth every single one of those picks. Teams take QBs in the first round every single year and every single year most of them turn out to be Blaine Gabbert.

Thank you! I've been saying the same thing the entire time we drafted both QBs.

riggofan wrote:The Cousins talk is completely unsurprising in this town. Every preseason, the guy playing in the third and fourth quarters against the scrubs is the best QB on our team. Joe Theisman of all people should know better. I understand the frustration about Griffin though. I just want to see something from him that gives me some confidence he's going to deliver this season.

To Theisman's credit, he did acknowledge Cousins was playing against scrubs, but also added that Cousins didn't have the same weapons Griffin did playing with the first stringers. And that's what was alarming to him.

riggofan wrote:Either way, for now I'm going to trust that Gruden knows which of those QBs is the best option for week one.

I do too.
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Id say Moss being a ~15 year vet vs a rookie backup, third year (and much improved) Speedster in Robinson, and camp standout Grant is a pretty good supporting cast. His TE Paul has been around a little ya know?
Cousins line has held and his wideouts beat out their guys. He also threw some poor passes.

Like you, and I, have said... ill reserve my criticism until after the playbook is opened and the games count.

The back up in DC always wins over the crowd in preseason. .. and the rexy becksys of the world remain backups and/or jobless for a reason
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And I love how people forget all the ints Kirk has thrown, let alone all the ones that have been dropped. He should have like 7 ints this preseason.
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The problem with Kirk and throwing his interceptions, is something I think he could work on and improve. He's started 4 games in 2 years. He really hasn't had much time for improvement.
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So you're giving Kirk time to improve but not RG. Ok, makes sense. I'm out.
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FLWSkin wrote:So you're giving Kirk time to improve but not RG. Ok, makes sense. I'm out.

Why are you making an argument when there never was one? I never said anything remotely close to what your hinting at. All I said was Cousins has only started 4 games, therefore he's going to make mistakes. I never even brought Griffin up. But if Griffin gets a pass for his inadequacies, Cousins should be afforded the same luxury.
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cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:I think its funny actually..a lot of people calling for Roberts head will be right back on his tip when he shows up, thats the world we live in tho.

No they won't. They'll be nowhere to be found. Personally, I can't wait.
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FLWSkin wrote:I still say Morris scored on the play they reviewed and said no TD.

He absolutely scored. There's no way in hell, they saw indisputabler visual proof to overturn the call on the field. I replayed it frame by frame, and when his knee hit down, the tip of the ball appeared to be across the plane. There was even a player's leg in the way, so there was no angle that could be used to overturn the call either way.
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StorminMormon86 wrote:The problem with Kirk and throwing his interceptions, is something I think he could work on and improve. He's started 4 games in 2 years. He really hasn't had much time for improvement.


there's no issue here - let's try and look at this ... :twisted:

the offensive coaches have certain players that they need to give more time to and those are the players that should get more time

Kirk Cousins MIGHT benefit from being given more time on certain things

the biggest benefit to the team is for the coaches to give more time to improving the better QB

If the coaches thought that Cousins might be a better QB than Griffin, he'd be getting a ton of help to be that QB




now that's really not all that difficult to grasp ... :lol:
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to be fair ....

Joey T has seen the 'truth' and decided to clarify .... :shock:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... nce-to-win

what a tool ... I mean fool :lol:
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SkinsJock wrote:there's no issue here - let's try and look at this ... :twisted:

the offensive coaches have certain players that they need to give more time to and those are the players that should get more time

Kirk Cousins MIGHT benefit from being given more time on certain things

the biggest benefit to the team is for the coaches to give more time to improving the better QB

If the coaches thought that Cousins might be a better QB than Griffin, he'd be getting a ton of help to be that QB




now that's really not all that difficult to grasp ... :lol:

You're twisting what I said, or what you thought I was implying. I am not saying Cousins is better than Griffin, nor am I saying he should start over Griffin. I'm saying for all of those that give the "Griffin's struggles are because of the surgeries, because of the lack of a preseason, etc." should give Cousins the same benefit of the doubt for his struggles in his limited play time. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less. And people need to realize the possibility is there that Griffin goes down this season. And we'll need to rely on Cousins to win games, if that happens.
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