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I wonder what kind of deal we could have struck with him when he was recovering from his 2nd torn pec.

riggofan wrote:Food for thought (which might make you sick):

Since 1983, only 3 #Redskins first-round picks have signed 2nd contracts w/the team—Arrington, Samuels, and Darrell Green. - via Rich Tandler

12 of those years we didn't have a first round draft pick

blowwad wrote:

riggofan wrote:Food for thought (which might make you sick):

Since 1983, only 3 #Redskins first-round picks have signed 2nd contracts w/the team—Arrington, Samuels, and Darrell Green. - via Rich Tandler

12 of those years we didn't have a first round draft pick

lol. Not surprising! But okay, I'm not sure that 3 first rounds picks sticking out of 18 is much to brag about either.

That 12 years number is crazy btw. That means nearly half of the past thirty years we haven't had a first round pick for some reason. Is that right?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -tag-deal/

The Redskins announced that the pass-rusher had signed his one-year, $11.455 million deal, guaranteeing the amount for the season.

Good deal. I'm happy Rak will be there for off season workouts now!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... an-orakpo/

“I have to prove myself again, huh?” Orakpo said. “I don’t have to prove myself to anybody. I’m already proven in this league. I don’t have to prove anything to anybody. That goes for fans, that goes for media. Anybody. I’m well-proven in this league. If it doesn’t work out, then it doesn’t work out, but I don’t have to prove anything to anybody.”

I understand Rak being annoyed by the question about having to prove himself, but I'm not sure I really agree with him. I think he's proved that he's a capable starter in the league, but has he really proved he deserves to be paid like an elite pass rusher?

Don't get me wrong btw. I'm an Orakpo fan. I think with some better players around him on the defense, he can probably do more than we've seen from him so far.

not a big deal - Brian knows what it takes to get what he wants and the Redskins will pay him if he does that

SkinsJock wrote:not a big deal - Brian knows what it takes to get what he wants and the Redskins will pay him if he does that

You mean he knows he has to "prove it" this year?

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:not a big deal - Brian knows what it takes to get what he wants and the Redskins will pay him if he does that

You mean he knows he has to "prove it" this year?

IMO - these guys have to 'prove they're worth it' each and every play

Now that I think of it. I have been pretty hard on Rak. But he has been solid. I should be thankful that we have two studs at OLB. So I am changing my attitude towards him.

Rak has gotten close to ten sacks every season he has been healthy enough to play. We just all want to see Rak fulfill his potential. We need more pressure from the DLine and ILBs as well. Most of the time I see Rak have to cover a huge hole meaning the DE is getting blown out. If the DE held his ground the hole would be much smaller thus less ground for Rak to contain. Either way Rak does tend to overpursue at times but he still gets in the backfield when he wants to. But against the run overall if our Dline improves we will see Rak improve against the run as well.

So yup I am glad we have Rak. I just want to see Rak become one of the leages top three rushers. Instead of top ten which he is now.

riggofan wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/15/no-long-term-deal-likely-for-brian-orakpo/

“I have to prove myself again, huh?” Orakpo said. “I don’t have to prove myself to anybody. I’m already proven in this league. I don’t have to prove anything to anybody. That goes for fans, that goes for media. Anybody. I’m well-proven in this league. If it doesn’t work out, then it doesn’t work out, but I don’t have to prove anything to anybody.”

I understand Rak being annoyed by the question about having to prove himself, but I'm not sure I really agree with him. I think he's proved that he's a capable starter in the league, but has he really proved he deserves to be paid like an elite pass rusher?

Don't get me wrong btw. I'm an Orakpo fan. I think with some better players around him on the defense, he can probably do more than we've seen from him so far.

Does he have to prove his talent? - No

Does he need to prove he can stay healthy and deliver at an elite level year in and year out so we can tie up big, long term money to him? - Yes

Orakpo has played 5 years in the NFL. He's played in 16, 15, 16, 2 and 15 games. 2012 was the torn pec after which he played an entire season. Health is not an issue for him. He's had 11, 8,9,1 and 10 sacks in those same years. I agree that the (Only) thing he has to prove is that he's an "elite" level backer for that elite long term money. He's already proven he's in whatever category is just under "elite".

emoses14 wrote:I agree that the (Only) thing he has to prove is that he's an "elite" level backer for that elite long term money. He's already proven he's in whatever category is just under "elite".

Totally agree. And it may not even be fair to him that he has shown as much as he has playing on a defense that hasn't given him a lot of help.

The key to Rak getting more sacks is for him to rush the QB more.